My project= 1992 tsi
 

So I went to check out Steve's (goat blower's aka goodbye) 1992 talon for sale. Was alright with the price, took it for a quick spin, and liked it. So, I bought the car, had things squared away with Steve, and took her up to the gas station to get filled up. Put some premium in there to thin out whatever old gas was still in the tank, and headed on my way....

Now you might be asking yourself, how is this a project? First off, it will become my little project, and a problem arrose as I was heading home. As I was heading home, a very loud (that's no exaggeration) knocking sound started coming from the front end (engine bay area). I headed back, Steve and I started checking it out, making sure that everything was buttoned up and nothing was loose and rattling around. We spent an hour or so out in the cold, and got nowhere. We couldn't figure it out.

So, now I am in in a predicament. I will try my best to describe the noise, Steve, Jesse from primo, and myself have all heard it. It doesn't sound like a rod knock, it's not a constant knock. It seems to be making noise from the backside of the motor, on the very bottom. All of the lifters were there, there didn't seem to be anything loose in the timing, and it seems to be loudest when you let off the gas. It makes a noise when accelerating, but it's not as loud as when decceleration occurs, and there is some vibration in the steering. NO NOISE AT IDLE, runs smooth at idle.

Would like to hear from you guys, to see if you have any idea what the deal is. Steve, being the good guy he is, is gonna throw it on the lift and make sure the timing stuff he just did is correct, and look around and see if he can see if anything externally is messed up.

Thanks in advance.

edit: By the way, the car is a 1992 Talon TSI, All-wheel drive, and 5-speed.... I am now starting to think it's in the rear drive shaft (transfer case?), that would explain the vibration, and kind of explain the more violent noise in deccel....but idk, I'm just guessing.

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Might just be the carrier bearing, they are known to rip the rubber around the bearing and create a thump, especially on decel. It could also be something in the flywheel/clutch combo.

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I hope its a carrier bearing, that's like $100 to buy one.... I didn't feel anything when pressing the clutch down, the noise would get loud, then as it came back to idle, and its not moving, the noise goes away.

btw:just talked got the title from steve, he's gonna take a look at it tomorrow, and will check the carrier bearing and transfer case out. Hopefully this will be an easy fix.

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So it only makes the noise while driving? If looking at the engine, and rev the motor by hand with the throttle body it doesn't make any noise?

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Yes when we rev the engine under the hood, out of gear, it still makes the noise. But no noise at idle, either way.

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Welcome to the dsm game! good luck

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Oh this ain't my first rodeo...haha. I had a 92 laser rs before, and a 92 tsi. I just took a break for a while.

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Hmm, to me that would rule out the t-case or driveshaft. Hopefully it's nothing too serious.

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Good luck. Steve is a good guy he will steer you in the right direction.

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Yea he's been really helpful through the whole ordeal. I'm now pretty much positive that its in the driveline, now just to find out where. I'd rather put in a new driveline piece then putting a engine in. Scared the crap out of me, litterally put 2-5 miles on it before it made the noises...

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Maybe a throw out bearing taking a shit? Where in Roseville are you? Primo, where most of my DSM friends locally end up going for fun, is right in New Brighton.

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^gimme a shout next time you guys are chillin on a weekend (fridays too)

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I actually live in new brighton, off old 8 and cty. D. Primo is like 5-10mins from my house.

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go figure! something goes wrong with a DSM right when you get it. haha classic. and to think I was serioulsy considering buying the same car from Goat blower.

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Ehh, dsm's are like any performance car, theyre bound to break sometime. All I can really say, is shit happens....

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Get some pics up, what are you plans for the car?

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I'll will get pics up when I get it back.
First things first, I'm gonna head to the junk yard and get a couple new pieces. Try to find some burgandy body pieces to replace the not so nice ones, just clean it up.

As for future mods, I am a bit undecieded. Would like to do the basics, fmic, maf-t, maybe suspension (get rid of the lifted look...lol). Just gonna clean it up a bit, leave it kinda stock (but thats what they all say.

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MAFT? why?
oh i get it.

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Does it still have balance shafts?

Go 2G MAS if anything MAF-T's suck.

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As of right now, I am not to worried about mods. It's got a e3 16g, 2g mani, k&n, turbo xs boost controller, and thats pretty much it. It does not have the balance shafts removed. Mods will come with time, I still gotta do some reading, and see what direction I want to go in. E-85 has always sparked my intrest, but I think thats a little further down the road.

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UPDATE!!
Well steve got it on the lift, and found out that the balance shaft belt, got something caught in it, and was shredding the belt. So all is good. I should have her back by monday or tuesday. :banana:

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wow nice save!

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Yea makes sense now that I think about it. I just can't wait to get her back and start finding some parts.

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It didn't hurt the timing belt did it? If not, you got lucky!

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From what steve said, it was only the bs belt that got chewed up

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sounds like something i had happen when a bolt fell down my timing belt cover and started tearing up a belt

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From what I have heard, that's pretty much the same deal. I think u-pull has a couple maroon 1gb's, so I will have to make a trip for some pieces as soon as I get it back.

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Well, got it done, it was a bolt that fell down in there and chewed up the BS belt, only made a few small nicks on the outside of the timing belt, no big deal. It still makes the noise, albeit it much less, and only on decel. Driving it, it's perfectly fine. I'm stumped on this one. Shane?

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Wow, you definitely dodged a bullet man! Good luck with it when you get it back.

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looks like i should have come in here a little sooner, sorry. Sounds like my belt took more of a beating though
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Its still making noise? Is it as loud as it was the other day? Hmm

edit:could it possibly be the rear balance shaft that is actually creating the noise now? I have heard when they go out, they can make some noise. It looked as if the last time I drove it, that there was no oil pressure problems or anything so idk....I'm at a loss.

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It's a lot quieter now, only noticeable on decel in gear. Oil pressure is fine, and it runs great, so I'm not sure at this point, this isn't something I've seen before, and that's a rarity with these cars.

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Thats weird, when you rev in nuetral, does it make the noise still? Give me a holler tomorrow. If you're at the shop, I'd like to stop by and see it.

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Remove that BS crap and turn the hydro tensioner into a manual, then inspect the stock crankpulley for separation between the dampener.

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Yea I saw the timing belt before I left, just a little line on it, not nearly as bad as that.

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It's not the dampener.

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So now its just noise, in gear, in deccel? Or is there still noise in nuetral? I guess I will find out, I get her back today.

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So....I picked the car up, was heading home, the noise was only happening when the car was creating vacuum or towards the top of 1st. As I was driving it home, it started to bog down, then died. It won't start now, its definately getting fuel, I can smell it, but I don't think its getting spark....I'm just gonna wait untill tomorrow and putz around with it.

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I really hate it when things like this happen. Just keep your head up!

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That car just does not wanna go home with you. That sucks man! I hope you get it figured out.