ds Map
 

has anyone heard of this? Any comments on it?

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Shane knows about it.

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Someone care to let the rest of us in on it?

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I believe Shane said it was very rough between transitions. I am sure he will chime in on this soon.

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So now I can vent my BOV, damn I am in.

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Shane's been messing with speed density stuff for a while.

**moved to a more appropriate section.**

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LOL, you guys are so slow, been a beta tester for a while now, there is a V2 coming for ~$500 that will blow DSMlinkV3 out of the water. Read up

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: gives cookie :

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What makes you so sure of that? The website does a very poor job of selling the product. Looks like some guy built a page using frontpage or one of those free website builders.

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Right now they are at RC1 for DSMAP, (RC1 means release candidate 1) They are not currently SELLING the products. Yes, the website is not clean, I am sure that they will make it look pretty when they are ready to go commercial.

Right now DSMAP V1 is free, if you ask nicely, you can get RC1 for free if you become a beta tester.

People have been using the free version of the software since 2005, its very nice, nobody seems to have anything bad to say about it, native wideband/MAP sensors FTMFW

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NOW I HAVE YOUR COOKIE!!! When your single layer metal headgasket fails on your 2JZGE, let me know, I may know more about your car then you do.

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Saying one unreleased product will beat another unreleased product is pretty smart.

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As far as I remember hearing it doesn't read past 29 psi? meh.

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You can change a couple things to make a 4 bar map sensor work. I wouldn't see any reason to run it on a car that doesn't need something bigger than a 3 bar in the first place though. The attitudes of a lot of people on that forum have turned off and away a lot of people from it though. DSMAP isn't the only native ECU SD out there for 1G DSMs and one version is already beyond what DMAP V2 will have.

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What are the other SD setups available? (keep in mind cost, and native WB support)

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If it's so great, why are most of us just hearing about it now? If something's free and it works, DSM'rs are all over it and it's all over the web. I call BS.

I'll keep my DSMlink, thanks.

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http://forums.ds-map.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=198 5 bar bitches!

Its called innovation, if you dont like it fine, but don't call BS on a community of people with years of positive results, and its important that people know that there is an option to LINK, which is also fine, but I hate my MAS sensor, no room in the DSM for it

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Well if any one would like to see a live running example of ds-map, you can take a look at my car. It is living proof!! I do have quite a bit of messing around with it but it is looking positive for right now.

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I've heard of it, but never had any reason to try it as I'm more then happy with my Link setup. And as someone said, the attitudes of those that boast it turn me away.
I'm not a cocky individual, and that's the vibe I get from most (not all) who use it. I hear a lot of "this product blows away the competition, the competitions product is trash". That's not the kind of thing I like to support. I'm more of a 'different strokes for different folks' kind of guy. I'm happy with what I have, you're happy with what you have. Sure I'd love to hear more of what yours is all about, but not if it entails trash talking what I'm happily using.

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I found out about this and some other free shit that I would of lapped up, but I already had link and the learning and support I have had from link have been amazing.

Also how can you be a beta tester with a car that is down?

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I will not trash talk what any one is using. What I am wondering the most is what system would be better to use a dsm link or a ds-map. I have heard wonderful and bad things about both. What do you think about the whole non maf sensor setup? Do you think you can actually get an accurate enough reading from a wideband hooked up to the ecu?

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I was responding to the post that it blows away DSMlink, which I don't believe, hence the BS comment. I'm all for something new, but I've been around these cars for a long time, I've seen a lot of fuel controllers, and I've seen a few garage shops come up with something that kinda works if you want to take a lot of chances. Kinda like when the AEM first came out and it had a ton of problems. I tend to like the tried and true and let other people beta test shit and blow motors.

I do like the speed density a lot though. Coming from a VPC and then an AEM, putting a MAS on my car for the first time was not fun, and I still hate it. But being to jump in at any outside temp and have it run right makes it worth it. Also being that Tom and Dave have been working and testing their products long before they release them to the public made me a believer.

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We have a least 2 more running DSMs then you think we do buddy....My GVR4 is still in pieces :(

Im not saying that anyone need throw their DSMLink away, just those consiering dumping $600 into Link may want to wait a week or so, thats all, im sure LINK works great!

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^thats cool. Not like i care what you are doing, it just didn't make sense to me.

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i think it's good for everyone to choose their own tuning options. if you like one better than the other, its fine but one doesnt have to 'talk' like one is better. i havent tried either for myself but from all the great things i've heard from dsmlink I'm going that route.

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Actually they have to wait a week or so because Tom has suspended sales until V3 comes out, in a week or so.
Honestly i love dsmlink, i am biased because i run it. But the support that Tom and their team and that forum gives is unquestionably the best i have ever seen. You post a log and within a half day there is a reply with good solutions. While DS-Map im sure is nice for you, i would never run it because like steve i would prefer a tried and true method when it comes to fuel management and a software being able to blow up a motor.
V3 is going to be awesome not only because of the new additions but being able to do firmware updates and have people send you files that would work better for your setup instantly, as well as unlocking new features via firmware update, Awesomeness.
And by the way in a couple weeks there will be no more DSMLink, it will be called ECMLink.

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why are they changing it from DSMlink to ESMLink?

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Because it'll be a multi-platform solution. Think EVO. :beach:

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A lot more then just the evo. They are looking to tackle AEM i bet.