DSMLink V3
 

http://dsmlink.com Check out the first news release.
and then check out the info http://www.dsmlink.com/wiki/v3preview

Its SO CLOSE! :jhitit:

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Looks cool, so how much HP can a EVO8 MAF support?

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Very nice! I don't even have a dsm anymore but still read through the article. :)

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I am always gonna call it DSMlink, why does everyone want to leave.

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I can't wait for speed density. I'm tired of dealing with MAF's.

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its really nice that when future updates come you will just be able to download and reflash the upgrade without sending anything in.
If anyones looking for a MAF Translator box im sure the market will be flooded with them come mid december.
I wonder with the whole name change to ECMLink (and porting to other platforms) the first new platform will be the Evo. EVOLink!!

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Awesome. I hope the upgrade charge isnt too intense.

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are they still offering the adapter for non eproms? I couldnt really tell.

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From the sounds of it its going to be under 150 for the upgrade.

Im not sure about the non eeprom thing. Last i heard it was kinda spendy.

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Looks pretty neat!

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+1. I should probably take the opportunity to check my ECU once Chrysler gives me my car back sans leaky t-case.

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cant wait till they get the link done for the evo 1-3 I will be the first in line for that. I have been buging them for almost 3 years now for it.

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Anyone know how much V3 will be?

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I think right around $150 for the upgrade, probably same price as V2 if you don't have that. They also have a new USB cable so no more adapters, hopefully that's included in the $150. Now I can get a mini-laptop for this puppy.

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hrm.. im interested to see how it is for the Evo's compared to ecuflash.

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For anyone else interested, the EVO8 MAF will flow 25% more than a 2g MAF. It has been recorded up to 62 lb/min. It looks like a good option for you Steve!

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Unhacked even? Seems like a good option.

It's pretty cool you can go in and update the timing tables and stuff like that. I wonder if you can change the injector warm up or whatever it's called to compensate for big injectors not flowing consistently for the first minute or two.

Thomas said $175 today for upgrade without MAF cable.

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Will it actually flow 25% more or meter 25% more. I know it will definately meter more before hitting overrun, but the actual flow capabilities might not be as huge, since you can do some hacking to a 2G MAF versus next to nothing for the Evo and it's a 4" setup with the 2G versus 3" with the Evo. The DSMLink recommend settings for a hacked 2G MAF versus an Evo MAF are only 6% higher for the Evo. 6% is nothing to sneeze at on a 500whp car though. I have been on the fence with this on Mara's car. I can still hack the 2G MAF on her car a little bit more, but I have some Evo MAFs that I could just throw in and the round outlet is easier to deal with than the 2G oval.

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Why not just wait it out for the speed density?

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#1 MAFs are awesome for tuning in general and they have the upside of adjusting for mechanical and environmental changes. Would you rather know how much actual air is going into the motor and add the fuel based on that or just know the pressure of it...

#2 I don't have DSMLink

#3 I probably will go speed density soon anyways. :) I just feel like I have to defend MAF systems. People like to rush into overly complex setups too often.

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So if you're on speed density and you change something relatively minor you'll have to retune? It won't adjust like a normal stock MAS would?

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Sweet. I can't wait to upgrade mine. Hopefully it'll be soon while my car is parked for the winter.

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Correct, you can change the intake manifold or cams or a MAS car and the fueling should remain the same. You change anything on a speed density setup that changes the efficiency at the same pressure and your fueling can change. But realistically if it's only a couple percent across the board, then a small change in A/F isn't a big a deal. A cam change that might benefit from just some small timing changes on a MAS, might require an entire fuel map rework on a SD car.

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HHmmm second thoughts anyone?

I know there will be no need for a translator with v3. Would a GM mass be better for the DD?

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It sounded like the EVO8 MAS would meter 25% more air than a stock 2g MAS. I wonder what a EVOX MAS looks like?

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Speed density along with the factory ECU can compensate for weather conditions, I drove my car year round with the VPC and made no changes for fueling.

6% more metering wouldn't help me much, we were running into MAF overrun at 32psi, and there's plenty more room above that with my setup, that's why I'm excited about going back to speed density with DSMlink. Although a lot of guys are doing the VE tables above where I was maxing it out, so we could easily set that up but I don't really want to keep using the MAF.

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^Are you having a lot of issues with overrun?
I plan on staying 16G so 2G MAS will be good enough for me.

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Bah, some of you people need to man up. Speed Density is not that much extra fuss. After all, we're not senior citizens here (well maybe Steve..) weekly tuning is fun! :D

What DOES suck is when you have speed density and cannot tune it. I drive a 2gnt for my daily workhorse. 2gnt's came from the factory with speed density which only gets worse with age. Every time the weather changes I feel a slight difference in power delivery... kinda creepy.

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We are both having some issues, not enough to cause a lot of problems at our current power levels, but enough to keep us from making much more power. Steve's setup still has a lot of potential with more boost, it's easy to get to some really bad overrun on his. A bunch of parts on my 1G are maxed, so just overrun isn't the only problem. I think I still have 2 honeycombs I could remove in my MAF too. Steve put down 580s AWD on MAPs dyno with the 2G MAS.

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Any of this crap ever make you want to put your 2G back together?
So you would say 2G mas would over run about 55lb/min level?/What would you guess the 2G mas is good for?

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On dsmlink forum there is someone claiming high 9's in the 1/4 mile with their 2g mas. I don't know what vehicle they have but i think its a 2g awd.