DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 

I am wondering if there are any users that have other "fun" cars that aren't DSMs.
I really want to build a V8 boosted car, obviously not in the ugly shells they come in, I probably won't do a vette.
This car would be my quest for an ultimate street car basically that could do anything I wanted it to decently well.
But I want something fast.
But then I see other guys with 35R cars destroying 600-700hp cars and even liter bikes. I mean i have a 16G and I beat most 450whp V8 cars I run into.

Just want some opinions because I don't see owning 2 fun cars because I would always want to drive the fast one.

Aaron

Re: DSMs vs. other cars, your other car maybe.
 

Evo
3/S
S2000
DSM
Miata

All fun cars, all under $15k if you search hard enough.

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An Fb3s with a Ford 302. Does everything well including getting atleast 25mpg.

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I guess I mean, do the others really replace it or are they just different.
Like I have driven my friends cars and V8 torque is sweet, but there is something about my car that I love and the fact that I don't have to worry about traction that much.

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I simply can't have two fun cars because I can't afford it. I think there is just something special, and addicting about DSMs... I'm at the point where a little more money would make my car awesome, but at the same time I could be buyin an Evo or something, and start with something a little different... Money dumped into any car is money basically thrown away.

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after driving the fiero a couple times around the block I love it, the constant wheel spin though is a lil meh. good set of tires should help that.

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I loved putting my dsm together. I for sure like "building cars"
I think I might be ready for more of a challenge and more power.

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Edit- Keep your car!

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^I have no clue on what you just said.

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Edit

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Thanks. I think I haven't driven it for 3 weeks and I am already getting crazy thoughts.

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When you want more of a challenge, you mean like not just bolting shit on? A friend from school who is not into imports at all, is going to put a wideblock 4g63 in a 43' ford and rwd it up.

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I've considered other cars, but for the $ you spend, a DSM or 3S is tough to beat. (on the HP/$ scale)

I've considered:
E36 M3
Miata
Before I bought my Stealth I was looking at F-body's.

The M3 and Miata have been after starting AutoX. I've never driven a BMW, I have been for one ride in a 330Xi. I got more feedback sitting in the passenger seat than I do in the driver seat of my Stealth. Very much a drivers car.

But I've found it's not so much the car itself, as it is what you do with it. Be sure to enjoy what ever you have. I enjoy mine most on an Auto X course so far.

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Keep the DSM. I am going to be in this very same predicament pretty soon. I have my Mustang which is my DD right now, but soon I will be done with my master's and should be able to find a respectable job. With a new job comes a new DD. Also the dsm should be out on the streets this spring at the latest so I can start to focus on my mustang. Honestly the best I can say is look for something as opposite as your DSM as possible and something that also has a lot of support. FD with an ls1 are getting cheap or find a shell and swap it over yourself. '96-'98 Mustangs are getting dirt cheap and with a decently built engine make some serious power when boosted. This is the route I plan to go. Some think they are ugly, but I like mine. They are pretty light and have more support than most cars. The chassis has been the same all the way through the fox bodies so pretty much all the chassis components that were a problem have fixes. And the main reason I am keeping mine is so I can have a Blowzilla. In the end do what you want, I'd just keep the DSM anyway. Yours is way too nice of a car to get rid of.

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An old Datsun Z-car with a V8 would be sweet.

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I'd take a branch off Matt's suggestion and build a twin turbo 280Z

My parents have a 96 Mustang GT that I drive on occasion, and the keys are going to be handed over to me once they pay it off. It's fun, but it's not the Talon.

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My 'other' car is anna's GLI at the moment. it's a 2.0 turbo, but just FWD. Seems like I am at 'the wall' of what to do with the car at the moment: intake, exhaust (cat delete downpipe is all), uprated bov, and a chip/tune. The car makes about 200whp, and is fun as hell. It's a different ride than the evo, that's for sure. Ride is more comfy, it cruises at 80mph on the freeway like nobody's business, the car just wants to go long distances at high speed. Handling is decent out of the box, steering is pretty responsive, stock all season tires are just ok. Trunk is massive, all four seats are comfy and roomy.

All in all for about $20k, it's a great car for Anna, and for me to have a little fun with. I have an old 83 vw gti that was my first car so I have some vw luv in the blood, this kinda fills that gap for me. Ultimately that's what I think 'other' cars should be for, making you happy. You will be hard pressed to find a car that can make more power or smiles than a dsm/evo per dollar invested. So yea, keep the mitsu and find something else that makes you smile as well.

I have thought a lot about getting a second car in the next year or so (well third, you know what I mean), but in all honesty, my gut reaction was to just get another evo! I could build the crap out of it and keep my car for the DD, or vice versa. But, when it came down to it, I'd rather just build mine and drive mine!

Hope you have deep pockets, sounds like this could get expensive pretty quick :) Have you considered a 996tt? twin turbo 6-cyl, AWD..and a lot easier to work on than a 3/S....one of those is still in the back of my mind...

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^Its my dream car, but for the money no thanks. I don't see buying anything crazy expensive until I have no more mortgage.
Another thing is you know that OUTLAW Vs ZX10 video, that is the guys daily he drives it year round in colorado thru the snow and everything.
I know "twotalons" on here drives his car everyday and that kind of inspires me to do it, because well I love my car enough to where I want to drive it everyday. I plan on POR15-ing the whole car to stop it from rusting and I won't drive it in the salt as long as I have the corolla.

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I really like the fact that I built my car and that's why I'm having a hard time finding something else.
I like the throttle response that the turbo cars lack but all the ones I have driven have kind of a drop off. I would rather have a car that gains more and more power the harder you push it.

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My other fun car is a 1970 'Cuda that I have owned for 12 years now (i am only 26). I bought the car with my life savings. I love that car and I am into old cars more then newer ones, but I like my eclipse. (even though I have not even driven it yet)

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get a fox body mustang there about the only other car that is as cheap to build as a dsm plus I love the way the 88 fastbacks look

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I say build up a muscle car. you cant beat having fun in a classic with some goold ole v8 power and then you still have the dsm to dd/have power in.

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If I was ever to build a "fun car" it would either be an S-10 with a blown or turboed 383, or a Miata with a 4g63/4.

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Mirage w/ built 4G63 and a big turbo, I want.

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All three of these would be awesome IMO, I had a S-10 with a 350 in it but it wasnt all that fast, My stock talon at that time could beat it.. The 383 would be awesome with a little boost or spray, but traction would defiantly be an issue.:seeya:

As far as the miata goes i've been thinking of doing that as my next project, I think that car and the 4g63 would be way too much fun..

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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/E...2JZ_195979.htm

? :D

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^nice, i remember the uproar about that over on the GM boards.
I love the 2JZ, sounds exotic to me, i was lucky enough to get a ride in a local mid-high powered one and I creamed from the sound, let alone the car twisting in every gear.
I just don't know know what to do.
Its just an opportune time to get out and not lose my ass like i did last time. But this car got put together from a bare shell, i love it.

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I've contemplated trying to mod an older Viggen 93. I really like how they look. There aren't nearly the amount of high HP ones running around like there are DSM's. It'd be an interesting change, and kinda fun to try things less common, roads less traveled.

I just don't know if I could go back to FWD though :(

http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-co...untryhouse.jpg
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/st.../51574_4mg.jpg
http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-co...Viggen5th2.jpg

Some people are slapping some bigger turbos on though. ANd as you can see, lots of room for improvement. Maybe if there was a way to swap in AWD.... :)
http://www.nordictuning.com/stcs/viggen-dyno2.jpg

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My fun car is now the viper, hands down more fun than the dsm was. It is nice being able to feel a bit of power without the foot all the way to the floor. Sliding around can be a bit of fun also.

We have a mirage in the garage now, 2.3 stroker, full T4 turbo, etc. Not fun enough to get running right now. We haven't driven it in ~1.5 years.

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^yeah but you see I can beat vipers all day, The torque is amazing on them My friend has an 05 that I get to drive and the gears are so long I like to just keep going but then I am already over 120 in third.
That thing needs some boost.

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One car that I have always wanted to build is a early model 240sx, with a jdm s13 silvia front end conversion, a rb30det (hybrid rb26dett), a massive turbo, full suspension, the works. Nothing sexier than the sound of a skyline motor. Full-race makes a awd rb26dett swap for 240's but their prices are ridiculous. Off the 280z idea, rb's fit real nice in those too... :Banane56:

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Traction would be an issue on the stock suspension. But those things are so easy to put a 4link in, and with slicks you wouldn't have much of a problem.

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I seen one of those pull out on radisson and I was like, that thing would be sweet to do.

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I love my Q45a 4.5 dohc 310/330? stock in a heavy but no sway car. I also love the full active supenstion in it. Rear drive lsd 4 wheel disk some earlier ones had 4ws.
Joe

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Find an AWD Volvo S60, turbo from the factory, and luxurious to boot. Fairly easy to mod and relatively cheap for the quality.

I've driven just about every kind of car and keep thinking about this myself. Mustang interiors are just junk no matter what year it is including the new Shelby/Roush/Saleens. Corvettes can be fun but they too have that same crappy cheapass feel that the Mustangs have, just with better ergonomics. Besides that, without some serious mods, Vettes and Stangs are horribly slow. Vipers are a lot of fun, but are almost impossible to get comfortable in and sound like crap.

For me personally, I want pretty much what I learned to drive in, a 1973 Corvette. We had a 1974 when I was younger, but the 1973 looks way better. Of course I'd mod it up suspension and drivetrain-wise while keeping it completely stock looking. Green with black interior, big block and a four-speed. It wouldn't be terribly fast, but a nice classic to cruise around in. I also want to do up my high school car, a late 70's Chevy Monza Spyder. This I would do up pro-touring style with a 5-lug conversion, 4-wheel disc brakes, and a nice warmed up LSx with FI and probably a couple of turbos. Projects, projects.

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Twin turbo SC400

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I have a '01 M Roadster (315 hp from the M3 in a Z3 chassis) and it is a lot of fun, but nothing like the Talon. The car is super smooth and has long gears, but you don't get the rush of the talon. I have been through what you are going through many times and I just can't see getting rid of AWD. I have ridden in high HP RWD cars and they just go up in smoke, or they put a 4 link in the back and they handle like shit. Keep the talon and put a 50 trim in it, if you need a rebuild in the future go to a 2.4 so you can spool a bigger turbo quicker. An EVO is the only replacement I can see for my talon. I have been looking at building a '67 Chevelle with a tube chassis and 4wd system out of a chevy truck with a TT LS2 up front :D That would be WAY down the road though, unless I hit the lottery!

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^I have been thinking about the same thing as you, but not as far.

V8 AWD Turbo would do it for me in something kinda pretty.

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We have a customer with a Merkur converted to AWD with a 351ci V8 single turbo. The car is clean, but not the prettiest body style nowdays.

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DSM/EVO is tough to beat HP/$ wise. Otherwise I like Shanes TT SC400 thought. You can make those motors pretty damn strong for relatively cheap(if you even need/want to build it). Otherwise I still have that RX7/LSX option for 12k relatively local for sale. Personally if doing something different, I'd probably do the SC400.