FP's new HTA86: HTA GT3586R
 

Some said that the original "HTA35R" was not worth it...it's a $400 option on top of the price of a GT35R. FP had actually made the turbo in an effort to make better low-end than a regular 35R, and they succeeded by making it with a smaller, more efficient wheel. One side effect was a little more top-end power than a standard 35R. Still a great turbo, but...

FP saw PTE's 6262 and decided to up the ante and make their HTA design full sized, and dub it the HTA86, or HTA GT3586R. The results speak for themselves, I will post dyno graphs as they come.

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First up, standard GT35R vs HTA86 on an STI. 34psi:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...8/IMGA0936.jpg

Yes, that is a 81whp/57wtq gain with zero loss in bottom end.

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Meh.. You can already go 9's on a regular GT35R, they need to work on spooling bigger turbos faster.

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This is a comparison between buschur's FS365 (believed to just be the PTE 6262) and the HTA86 @ 42psi:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...uschur/tom.jpg

Notice the gain in power everywhere!
This car ran 9.2@157?mph before it blew up the rear diff and ended the season.

This is the HTA86 versus the FP RED:
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...P1010557-1.jpg
The car had previously run 9.57@~145mph with the red. This is a maxed out car with zero compromise concerning power. Big cams, aem, built motor, head, ported everything, etc.

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Thus the HTA82. Check the other thread for info on that one.

Variable vein turbos are not going to make it into the market overnight ;)

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Yeah, they have only been around in production cars since the 80's :D

The HTA86 looks nice!

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Too big for me.

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They need to actually make a big turbo.

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Also, yes you can go 9's on a regular 35R, but guess what, people are knocking on the door of 8's with this thing!

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and 42's go 7's

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Damn, that thing is a beast. I wonder if the stock internals in my 1G can handle 700hp?

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Haha let's see you make it happen!

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^word. Make it happen. Plus you need to get your car running again and have some fun with us on spring opener.

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And spool like shit. This turbo is real-world driveable.

DO IT! It would bolt into your existing hotside! Call FP NOW!
http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/1245.gif

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How well will it work the maxed out 2G MAS, maxed out single Walbro fuel pump, ancient Turblownetics Racegate with 6psi spring, and too small of an intake pipe?

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get a new wastegate already! Prolly work fine with your intake setup. Ignore the MAS.

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sounds perfect

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Just hack the MAS, honeycombs are for bees, and fuck bees.

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You don't want to fuck the bees...For one, painful. Two, no bees=no pollination. That's bad. I say fuck the honeycomb.

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Even without the honeycombs, it's not even close. We need the V3 link with speed density.

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dane cook jokez Q_Q

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How is 9.0 @ 160 not knocking on the door of 8's?



-dsm9sec

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V3 will be the shit, if it ever gets released.

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I'm confused, how different is this wheel from their 88? I mean aren't they just stumbling over their own designs?
I would love to see a larger HTA something in the 75mm-ish flavor, inducer of course.

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The HTA88 is their 37R. The HTA 35R was the 82. This new one is a 86. On the HTA86 they made the compressor side 62mm. The old HTA 3582 wasn't 62mm.

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How's your math? .01 second faster than 9.0 is 8.99....which is an 8 second pass....knocking on the door, as in the potential is there, the times are almost there, just need to pull it off.

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:rollinglaugh::jackoff:

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This product is for people already making big power and running fast times in the 10's and even 9's....like you! You have a 9 second dsm right? Otherwise your screen name....well anyways, the point is if you're going fast, you always wanna go faster, and if you can do it w/o sacrificing bottom-end, the part will be worth its weight in gold....even if they charge $500 for this upgrade option, that's $500 for an easy 50whp....you can't touch that dollar-to-horsepower ratio with much anything else when you're already making 500-600whp.

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One of the reasons why DSMLink is so easy to tune and compensates for weather and mod changes so well is because it isn't speed density though, it should be interesting to see how they implement it though. Built in GM MAF support will be nice too.

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Sure can. There's bigger intercoolers, there's methanol, there's alcohol, there's cams, there's pisons, there's butchered cranks, there's are you ready for this? NITROUS.

I thought we already had this conversation when my name was DSM10SEC. Doesn't matter either way since when I get this timeslip I prove all of you wrong.

In the words of Stephan "bone head".

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Oh, you mean dsm10sec, the flaming douchebag we banned long ago for being a dink, and then he re-signed up under an account with his girlfriend, wrxbabe or something completely silly/stupid like that...she/he acted like a complete tool.

Anyways, I think you just violated one of the big no-no rules, no getting banned and then opening a new account...even if you get away with it for a while (100 posts it looks like)! I hope you enjoyed your stay, please come back and visit in 199-never.

KTHXBYE.

So, back to the topic at hand! Turbos!

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^lol, owned.

Thats awesome. Turbo looks to be sweet and Scheides your point in your previous point is a great one I think.

Thing is most of these people making "comments" on this turbo dont have any use for it, they haven't even touched the potential of their own setups.

Like I said this thing is too big for me, the biggest I am going is 50lb/min turbo and thats it, then get everything the way I want it and once the corolla dies its DSM all day everyday.

I haven't seen any other reviews or word on this turbo, any clue why FP is bombarding the market like this? My guess is to stay number one.

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I'm going to take a wild guess here, and say what he was getting at is some's ran a 9.0 on a GT35, hense why he said "how is 9.0 NOT knocking on the door of 8's." Maybe you miss understood his statement.

Anyhow, cool turbo. If I could do things all over again and start from scratch, I'd be running all FP stuff.

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haha Owned!

this turbo looks like it would rock some socks, but i still couldnt stand spooling that late. If it wasnt my DD id think about something like this someday.

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Scheides, when you said it was 500 bucks for 50 horsepower, that's assuming they could recover the other 1500 bucks by selling their used turbo. :D

Anyway, if I were in a position where I was maxed out on a turbo like the situation described in your post, this would definately be a good option without "going bigger" I would think.

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I think you read his post wrong. He means it's $500 for the conversion of a 35R, so if you have a 35R you can just send it in to FP. I don't know if the option is availble now but should be in the future.

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Pump Gas:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...erpump1509.jpg

AEM EMS
BR 2 liter, not sure of the mileage, Brian can chime in but I'm guessing around 10,000 miles on it.
BR Stage 3 head, same mileage as shortblock
BR header kit with .82 turbine housing and FP HTA86
BR 3" JDM EVO 9 rear turbo back
Wilson V2 intake manifold
BR 65 mm throttle body
BR coil on plug
BR double pumper
BF272 cams
PTE 1200 cc injectors
BR Race FMIC
BR 2.5" upper and lower i/c pipes
Exedy triple, push style
BR lightweight battery kit

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-dyn...93-octane.html

Virtually identical spool-up to the HTA82 he had on it before, +34 whp/+25wtq AND they turned the SMC alky kit off, for good now it looks like!