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Jakey 03-05-2004 02:08 PM

So my mom e-mails me today and says that she would like to find herself a Fiero. I know that there are a few Fiero "experts" around here and personally I know next to nothing about them. Could someone give me some of the basic low-down about Fieros? Of course I will be doing some research across the internet and reading, but I'd like to hear from some of you guys also.
Thanks! :bounce:

1ViciousGSX 03-05-2004 02:15 PM

Fiero is an acronym for On-FIRE. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/curly.j.../firelogo4.gif
The letters are just switched around. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/curly.j...ges/fire57.gif
Hope this helps. :P

blown_turbo_tsi 03-05-2004 02:33 PM

no disrespect to any fiero owners or anything but i heard they were pretty much death traps.... in other words.... not very much hope if you're in an accident :ohmy:

Kracka 03-05-2004 02:41 PM

They seem to like burning to the ground. They were cool....back in the 80's when they looked like Ferarri's. If she was to get one though, pick up an 88-89. If all she is looking for is a cute little summer car tell her to go for a Miata instead.

AJ 03-05-2004 02:45 PM

Wait till Jim chimes in on this.

Kracka 03-05-2004 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DSMStyle@Mar 5 2004, 03:45 PM
Wait till Jim chimes in on this.
Not today...he is burning his way down the highway :banana:

TalonFiero 03-05-2004 03:26 PM

You'll never guess what happened! My Fiero caught on fire! :bounce:

Fiero Facts:

Fires were a problem with the Fieros equipped with 2.5 92hp iron duke motors. They had bad connecting rods that would go through the block and spray oil all over the exhaust. Or people wouldn't maintain them and the oil would leak on the header. GM fix these problems by putting an exhaust sheild around the exhaust header to divert the oil. :rolleyes:

Fieros were the safest cars is crash tests when the were built. The Fiero tied the volvo in every occupancy safety crash test. Don't beleive me look it up http://www.crashtest.com/explanations/arch...chive/crash.htm

Fieros are built with a space frame design. None of the body panels are load bearing, It has a complete frame not unlike a tubular race car. This is also why Fieros are pigs weighing in at 3000 lbs for the GTs. Very stiff car.

Fieros are probably the second most unreliable car next to DSMs ;) Most Fieros have been thouroughly thrashed by their previous owners. Low milage Fieros will need tons of little maintenance things done to them as they are 20 year old cars.

If your mom likes pain and is willing to put up with maintenance similar to a DSM. By all means get a Fiero. Otherwise I'd recommend a Miata.

BTW, there are decent Fieros out there, they are just hard to find.

Don't let me scare you away, there is a pretty big Fiero Club right here in Minnesota that is willing to help other owners out from finding a good car to all kinds of repairs. Your best bet is to visit www.fieroforum.com and start there. Then I would contact the President of the Minnesota Fiero club at www.mn.fiero.org. They are great group of people and can point you in the right direction.

Good luck!

Jim

1ViciousGSX 03-05-2004 03:43 PM

Looks like somebody lit a Fire under Jim today :lol:

TalonFiero is an acronym for OnFire&Totalled :banana:

TalonFiero 03-05-2004 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1ViciousGSX@Mar 5 2004, 03:43 PM
Looks like somebody lit a fire under Jim today  :lol:

TalonFiero is an acronym for OnFire&Totalled  :banana:

OMG, funniest thing I've read in a while! :lol:

Being a Fiero owner I've heard it all, you develope a pretty thick skin! :razz2:

BTW, when Fieros start on fire it melts the doors shut so you can't get out. I hear that one at least once a week.

Here is a quick pic of my car.

http://www.knight-rider.org/mn-dsm/m...azzam/side.JPG

Super Bleeder!! 03-05-2004 04:53 PM

your fiero looks way way cool though, i have to admit.

just tell her to get an MR2 though

1ViciousGSX 03-05-2004 04:56 PM

Very nice FlameThrower. ;) It would really be nice with the SBC kit. :3gears:

TalonFiero 03-05-2004 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1ViciousGSX@Mar 5 2004, 04:56 PM
Very nice FlameThrower. ;) It would really be nice with the SBC kit. :3gears:
It has a small block in it. B)

blown_turbo_tsi 03-05-2004 06:26 PM

that's a nice car.... i like the fact that it melts the doors shut.... make you feel all "dukes of hazard" trying to get out! must be fun.... except the whole fire thing :stick:

MATCHBX 03-05-2004 08:10 PM

I remember Tony's red GT caught on fire because the plug wires were routed wrong and ended up rubbing on a bracket.

Fiero's aren't THAT bad. If you are into cars and fixing them up, they are fun little projects. I can't begin to remember how many hours I spent under some of Tony's projects. The motors are really easy to take out and put in though. They definately have a HUGE following and they have nearly limitless things you can do with them (except carry more than one extra person).

Note: I am not pushing Fiero's here but I won't bash them either.

TalonFiero 03-05-2004 08:51 PM

Stock Fieros are slow, but they handle pretty good. Most Fiero owners aren't necessarily about performance, they are more about driving something unique. There is also the whole fact that anyone who remembers the 80's pretty much hate them. :razz2:

The quickest stock Fiero will run 15.0 flat in the 1/4, most are mid 15s. Most Fiero owners I know, or as it seems the younger guys, are swapping in heavily moddified L67's, Small Block V8s, N*s, you name it it fits as long as its GM. Right now in Minnesota we have one low 9 second Fiero (front engine), two confirmed 11.9 second Fieros, and a slew of 12 second Fieros. Modded Fieros have very similar 60' times to DSMs, even the stock Fieros can get a high 1.9 60'.

blown_turbo_tsi 03-05-2004 11:20 PM

WOW!! :3gears:

jpretz 03-06-2004 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TalonFiero+Mar 5 2004, 03:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TalonFiero @ Mar 5 2004, 03:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-1ViciousGSX@Mar 5 2004, 03:43 PM
Looks like somebody lit a fire under Jim today* :lol:

TalonFiero is an acronym for OnFire&Totalled* :banana:

OMG, funniest thing I've read in a while! :lol:

Being a Fiero owner I've heard it all, you develope a pretty thick skin! :razz2:

BTW, when Fieros start on fire it melts the doors shut so you can't get out. I hear that one at least once a week.

Here is a quick pic of my car.

http://www.knight-rider.org/mn-dsm/m...azzam/side.JPG [/b][/quote]
I like! :drool:

Kracka 03-06-2004 12:47 AM

Get some [bigger] brakes on that thing!

Matt D. 03-06-2004 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TalonTSiDude@Mar 6 2004, 12:47 AM
Get some [bigger] brakes on that thing!
It's not like it's ever gonna go fast enough to need them. ;)

FattyBoomBatty 03-06-2004 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TalonFiero@Mar 5 2004, 03:55 PM
http://www.knight-rider.org/mn-dsm/m...azzam/side.JPG

Cool SUPRA!!

MATCHBX 03-06-2004 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Conquests are better@Mar 6 2004, 10:06 AM

Cool SUPRA!!

OMG!!! What a moron!!!!

ACRucrazy 03-06-2004 11:41 AM

Nice ride!

TalonFiero 03-06-2004 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TalonTSiDude@Mar 6 2004, 12:47 AM
Get some [bigger] brakes on that thing!
Working on it, local club sells the kit to use C5 13" rotors and 2 piston aluminum calipers all around. About $600-$700 depending on options.

Jakey 03-06-2004 04:29 PM

Well by looking on Ebay it doesn't appear that the stock ones are super valuble, hmmmm, Ebay :bounce: :bounce:

Jakey 03-09-2004 08:06 PM

Ok, here's the one that my mom is looking at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...2&category=6419

She wants me to e-mail the owner and ask him some questions about the car, so what should I ask him, anything specific??

Thanks!!!! :)

BuildADSM 03-09-2004 08:28 PM

Just wondering how did she decide that she wanted one? You ought to drop a small block in if for her. TalonFiero's fiero is the nicest one I have ever seen... and man it is starting to make me want one.... just keep saying to myself.... to old... too much work... rents wont' let me have 2 cars not to mention 3 (daily driver, dsm....)

jake that one looks really good for 500 bucks... looks like a fun hobie.
SC small block... hmmmm

1ViciousGSX 03-09-2004 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jakey@Mar 9 2004, 08:06 PM
She wants me to e-mail the owner and ask him some questions about the car, so what should I ask him, anything specific??

Thanks!!!! :)

How many times has it caught fire? :P
hehehehehehehehe ;)

Jakey 03-09-2004 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BuildADSM@Mar 9 2004, 08:28 PM
Just wondering how did she decide that she wanted one? You ought to drop a small block in if for her. TalonFiero's fiero is the nicest one I have ever seen... and man it is starting to make me want one.... just keep saying to myself.... to old... too much work... rents wont' let me have 2 cars not to mention 3 (daily driver, dsm....)

jake that one looks really good for 500 bucks... looks like a fun hobie.
SC small block... hmmmm

Stuart I honestly am not 100% sure how she came to wanting a Fiero. I know that she saw one back home one day and really liked it. Plus with gas prices going up and her Dakota not exactly being fuel efficient, I think she decided a little economical toy would be kind of fun. I do know that it will remain as a 4 cyclinder to preserve the milage factor but that's ok.
Hell I'm not objecting whatever she decides to do with it..... :banana: :banana:

Jacek 03-09-2004 08:48 PM

Quote:

Well by looking on Ebay it doesn't appear that the stock ones are super valuble, hmmmm, Ebay
jake, i bet your family cant wait until you can buy groceries off of ebay ;)

1ViciousGSX 03-09-2004 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jacek@Mar 9 2004, 08:48 PM
Quote:

Well by looking on Ebay it doesn't appear that the stock ones are super valuble, hmmmm, Ebay
jake, i bet your family cant wait until you can buy groceries off of ebay ;)

Or birthcontrol ;)

But it's probably available there already. :bounce:

J/K Jakey.

Jacek 03-09-2004 09:08 PM

:lol:

BuildADSM 03-09-2004 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1ViciousGSX+Mar 9 2004, 09:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (1ViciousGSX @ Mar 9 2004, 09:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Jacek@Mar 9 2004, 08:48 PM
Quote:

Well by looking on Ebay it doesn't appear that the stock ones are super valuble, hmmmm, Ebay
jake, i bet your family cant wait until you can buy groceries off of ebay ;)

Or birthcontrol ;)

But it's probably available there already. :bounce:

J/K Jakey. [/b][/quote]
yeah the do... This is for one hell of a pimp! :bounce:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...&category=40967

others
Quote:

1060 items found for condoms
http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/SaleSearc...osortproperty=3

da pimps dream. just click highest priced first.

Jakey 03-09-2004 11:28 PM

so back to Fieros..... :bounce:

TalonFiero 03-09-2004 11:42 PM

v6 fieros can get mid 20's for gas milage. The 2.8 V6 doesn't last much past 160K or so without some attention to the valvetrain. Lifters will start to tick like crazy but can be driven for quite awhile.

The 2.5 iron duke powered Fieros have 96HP and 150 ftlbs of torque, oh and don't rev past the redline on the 2.5 (4500 RPM) or she'll let go on you. The 4 bangers like to go through timing gears a bit after 100K miles as they are made of nylon.

Fiero SE's or "notchback" GTs are some of the cheapest of the better looking Fieros. I would defintely email the seller and ask them why it has sat for a year and what it would need to run dependably. It looks all right, but i get the feeling it will need some attention. That one in the auction is more than likely a 4 speed unless the owner swapped it out.

I have a buddy who has a few for sale if you are interested. His shop is in hopkins, he always has a few for sale for a decent price.

BTW, I just took my Fiero out for a spin. Damn that suspension I put in is stiff. I need to have some new exhaust put on as my neighbors think I am firing up a stock car when I start it. I kinda like the sound though, I even got to scare away a kid in a Grand Am GT who wanted to race just by throwing a mean sounding rev at him. hehe

Jakey 03-10-2004 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TalonFiero@Mar 9 2004, 11:42 PM
I have a buddy who has a few for sale if you are interested. His shop is in hopkins, he always has a few for sale for a decent price.


PM Sent ;)

niterydr 03-11-2004 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TalonFiero@Mar 9 2004, 11:42 PM
v6 fieros can get mid 20's for gas milage. The 2.8 V6 doesn't last much past 160K or so without some attention to the valvetrain. Lifters will start to tick like crazy but can be driven for quite awhile.

The 2.5 iron duke powered Fieros have 96HP and 150 ftlbs of torque, oh and don't rev past the redline on the 2.5 (4500 RPM) or she'll let go on you. The 4 bangers like to go through timing gears a bit after 100K miles as they are made of nylon.

Fiero SE's or "notchback" GTs are some of the cheapest of the better looking Fieros. I would defintely email the seller and ask them why it has sat for a year and what it would need to run dependably. It looks all right, but i get the feeling it will need some attention. That one in the auction is more than likely a 4 speed unless the owner swapped it out.

I have a buddy who has a few for sale if you are interested. His shop is in hopkins, he always has a few for sale for a decent price.

BTW, I just took my Fiero out for a spin. Damn that suspension I put in is stiff. I need to have some new exhaust put on as my neighbors think I am firing up a stock car when I start it. I kinda like the sound though, I even got to scare away a kid in a Grand Am GT who wanted to race just by throwing a mean sounding rev at him. hehe

rockon! I love that thing.
sounds mean!


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