DSMers are polluting the planet.
 

I found this article, http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ansport.usnews

it is a good read, about how DSMers are cauing global warming. If we were to drive less, we would be able to cut down on carbon emissions and help reverse the effects of global warming. It is just a thought. If you are making a short trip, try walking or riding a bike instead.

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I'll ride your mom, hippie.

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Does that mean you will let my mom put on the strap on and give it to you up the ass?

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It means I'm going to force my pollutants up her tailpipe.

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1. Click link
2. Press ctrl-F
3. Enter DSM
4. No results found

I think I hear a tree calling your name. Go hug it.

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Gtfo!! :fish'D:

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how about you hop off your "jewcake" and eat a carbon cake.... it'll be your part in cleaning up the enviorment. Oh and I guess I'm causing even more pollution... with my catless diesel truck

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For the uneducated ones here, here is a picture to help explain global warming. Go ahead and drive you gas guzzling car, I know I don't want skin cancer.

http://www.effectofglobalwarming.com...arming-img.jpg

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The sky is falling! Where's tpunx when you need him? I think we just found his new BFF.

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Seems highly unlikely DSM's are doing such things. Have you noticed 3/4 of us have these vehicles on jack stands? Besides............who cares...

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Where does it talk about DSMs in that article?

Hippie.

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Go buy a Prius and GTFO

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/nh_temp2.gif

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IM...e_sources3.gif

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Jason oceanographic satellite, La Nina
New Jason Satellite Indicates 23-Year Global Cooling

By Dennis Avery Thursday, May 1, 2008

Now it’s not just the sunspots that predict a 23-year global cooling. The new Jason oceanographic satellite shows that 2007 was a “cool” La Nina year—but Jason also says something more important is at work: The much larger and more persistent Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) has turned into its cool phase, telling us to expect moderately lower global temperatures until 2030 or so.


For the past century at least, global temperatures have tended to mirror the 20-to 30-year warmings and coolings of the north-central Pacific Ocean. We don’t know just why, but the pattern of the last century is clear: the earth warmed from about 1915 to1940, while the PDO was also warming (1925 to 46). The earth cooled from 1940 to 1975, while the PDO was cooling (1946 to 1977). The strong global warming from 1976 to 1998 was accompanied by a strong and almost-constant warming of the north-central Pacific. Ancient tree rings in Baja California and Mexico show there have been 11 such PDO shifts since 1650, averaging 23 years on length.

Researchers discovered the PDO only recently—in 1996—while searching for the reason salmon numbers had declined sharply in the Columbia River after 1977. The salmon catch record for the past 100 years gave the answer—shifting Pacific Ocean currents. The PDO favors the salmon from the Columbia for about 25 years at a time, and then the salmon from the Gulf of Alaska, but the two fisheries never thrive at the same time. Something in the PDO favors the early development of the salmon smolts from one region or the other. Other fish, such as halibut, sardines, and anchovies follow similar shifts in line with the PDO.

The PDO seems to be driven by the huge Aleutian Low in the Arctic—but we don’t know what controls the Aleutian Low. Nonetheless, 22.5-year “double sunspot cycles” have been identified in South African rainfall, Indian monsoons, Australian droughts, and rains in the United States’ far southwest as well. These cycles argue that the sun, not CO2, controls the earth’s temperatures.

Dr. Henrik Svensmark’s recent experiments at the Danish Space Research Institute seem to show that the earth’s temperatures are importantly affected by the low, wet clouds that deflect more or less solar heat back into space. The number of such clouds is affected, in turn, by more or fewer cosmic rays hitting the earth. The number of earthbound cosmic rays depends on the extent of the giant magnetic wind thrown out by the sun.

All of this defies the “consensus” that human-emitted carbon dioxide has been responsible for our global warming. But the evidence for man-made warming has never been as strong as its Green advocates maintained. The earth’s warming from 1915 to 1940 was just about as strong as the “scary” 1975 to 1998 warming in both scope and duration—and occurred too early to be blamed on human-emitted CO2. The cooling from 1940 to 1975 defied the Greenhouse Theory, occurring during the first big surge of man-made greenhouse emissions. Most recently, the climate has stubbornly refused to warm since 1998, even though human CO2 emissions have continued to rise strongly.

The Jason satellite is an updated and more-accurate version of the Poseidon satellite that has been monitoring the oceans since 1992, picking up ocean wind speeds, wave heights, and sea level changes. Jason is run by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and a French team.

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Jewcake got owned^^

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I am pretty sure my car has not produced a dam drop of emissions since last fall because it has been sitting in my garage with no motor since then. let me guess you are WRONG!! Who is going to ban this tool first?

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I have a feeling he just posted it to see how much drama could be initiated.

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Global warming = Real.
Caused by humans = Real
Disproportionate US contribution = Real
Caused by DSM's = No more than other cars.

Why not start a decent discussion about the cars in general as they relate to global warming instead of trying to target a group of enthusiats specifically without any evidence?

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F that, I love my polluting car. My girlfriend recycles so it all evens out in the end.

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Plus with all of the DSMs running E85 they are actually better for the enviornment then most cars.

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You don't know much about E85 do you?

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I corrected your statements to actually have some relevance.

I thought this crap was over, people still believe this stuff?

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I've never bought the E-85 being better for the environment deal. Good for power and engines, but not necessarily the environment. It could be though. Just not as it's currently produced.


When it comes to being caused by humans, if the great majority of scientists in the field, the ones who study the issue in depth, say it's caused by humans, I'm going to go ahead and believe them. Hell, even the Bush administration has come around on this one.

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Well looks like Global warming is a myth. being that bush is usually wrong.

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lol.

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E-85 is no better, it takes 11 acres of corn to produce enough fuel for one car a year. (numbers may be a little off). Global Warming is real. Hopefully these rising gas prices will slow some of these fuckers down!

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global warming is not fucking real, it is a bunch of BS! If global warming is so real then why the hell did we have such a cool winter this begining of the year and why is it so dam cool right now in june? WRONG! It is all a joke for people to make money off of. Oh and by the way E85 kicks azz!

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The highest level of Carbon emissions actually comes from concrete during the curing stage.

Maybe we should all go back to mud houses, dirt roads and horse n buggies.

Hell, growing the corn for Ethanol causes more carbon emmisions than your car burning petrol.

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E85 is actually horrible for the environment when you factor in what it takes to produce it, but let the environmentalists tout it as the savior of the world, it's just cheap race gas to me.

And for a majority of scientists being on board with global warming, that's all changed. There was just some new thing signed by 33,000 scientists and climatologists saying GW is a hoax. The tide is turning quickly, why do you think Gore is putting $300M into a campaign to keep people believing in it? To get $1B+ in revenues from carbon credits from a bunch of suckers. Money makes the world go round, read between the lines on this stuff and you'll see it.

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The Oregon Petition is the name commonly given to a petition opposed to the Kyoto protocol, organized by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine (OISM) between 1999 and 2001. During this period the United States was negotiating with other countries on implementation of the protocol before the Bush administration withdrew from the process in 2001.[1] Former U.S. National Academy of Sciences President Frederick Seitz wrote a cover letter endorsing the petition.
The Oregon Petition was the fourth, and by the far the largest, of five prominent efforts to show that a scientific consensus does not exist on the subject of anthropogenic global warming, following the 1992 Statement by Atmospheric Scientists on Greenhouse Warming, the Heidelberg Declaration and the Leipzig Declaration. The petition site currently lists more than 31,000 signatories.[2]
The petition was circulated again in October 2007.



The text of the petition (which was on a reply card) reads, in its entirety:[3]
“ We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind. There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.