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OK I started off to a good start. Well then I let my girlfriend drive the car. We all know what that leads to. I got this phone call. It was her. She had told me the hood came up. Not knowing what to expect. I went to pick up my car from her friends house. She didnt want to be around when I saw the car. So I arrived at my car. It was midnight. The car didnt look to bad smashed windshild and the roof looked alittle dented. Not to bad I thought. Well I got closer and I could not even sit it the car normaly. The roof was indented that bad with several creases in it. So I hauled the car home. I fixed the roof and decided to primer the whole car. :nope:! As of today I have a 800 dallor hood siting in the trash, replaced the windshild, straitend the roof, filled all the dings with body filler and primed the car. I did all this over this last winter along with install and setup my turbo, msd coil (old coil was shorted), 450cc injector (out of buddy's 4g63t) and a bunch of odd's and end's. I have a couple of pictures of befor (after i punched the roof up) and after the accident. Along with couple of the intercooler and turbo. thanks for looking and tell me what you think.

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After

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Wow, how did it all happen and what are your future plans?

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ive seen your car many time no idea you were on here. i usd to live in winona i moved last week to rochester and am still around. i saw your car with no hod and pulled up to it to check it out, but it wasnt turbo so boooo that. but hey i know about nt's now to

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befor
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after
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During

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Intercooler and turbo

http://us.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/ya/down...Inbox&inline=1

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Yea it was non turbo then. i just got all the parts on. Yea that hood I use to run around in is junk now.

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Oh yea I just got on here. Thought I would try and find more dsm around the area.

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Well my plans are to get my other top put on and get it painted. Tanglo ornge by house of color. I am trying to decide that or the factory green.

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hey twack, have you ever seen my car befor any thing happend to it. it was in winona for half a year while i was in tech school

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It looks familiar but for some reason I cant seem to remember seeing it in Winona.

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Sooo, you have a turbo kit on the car now? How about some pics of that? :D :D

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With no hood pins on the hood, you were asking for that to happen.

I used to own a 420a that I put a turbo on and finally went over to the dark-side a couple weeks ago now. Best decision in my life.

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so in the process of fixing your car, did you also replace the front bumper with a stock one?

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Yea I have a couple of pic of the turbo. The pictures kinda suck I had to take them with my phone.

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Front picture of turbo and intercooler.

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OK that is the best picture of the turbo installed. I have a question. I just recently blew the oil seals out of my turbo. I was woundering if any of you had any luck with the turbo rebuild kit from ebay? I didnt know it they were like their turbos they sell. I bought the turbo from a friend. It is a T04E with a .50 A/R and .63 A/R. Any sugestions will be welcome. Or maybe I should throw it away and get a new one. Then I know wat I got. My gess is that it is a cheap ebay turbo. I paid 50 bucks for the turbo then i piced together a kit. Yes a couple of items were off of ebay. But no problems yet.

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Yikes, get a kit from a reputable turbo rebuild place like FP, unless they don't make one for China turbos.

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I don't see any pictures.

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I dont see the turbo pics.

just get your self a evo 4-8 engine and the adaptor plate for your tranny and have alot more fun

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LOL! No problems yet, except you blew the oil seals out on it!

Get a 50-trim and call it a day :D

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Yea it is a t04e with a .50 A/R compressor and a .63 A/R turbine. Also about the car I bought it with no front clip (gust the body pannles). I had winona tech auto body pull the frame. I bought and did all the work to the car other then that. I bought the carbon fiber hood (evo style), x3 fenders, blitz front bumper, halo head lights, apr head studs, thick head gasket .075 head gasket, 17 in. adr sokudo, short shifter and a bunch of odds and ends.

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some of the things I have done to this car is had the front of the car pulled by winona tech auto body, x3 fenders, blitz front bumper, carbon fiber hood (evo style), black projector halo headlights, 17 in adr sokudo rims, msd coil (old one shorted), short throw shifter, thick .075 multi layer steel head gasket (extreamly hard to find), apr head studs, raidtor suport, raidtor, cooling fans, evaprator core, timing belt, new windshild, lots of body work (done my self). That is just the parts I can rember. That is not including the turbo parts.

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Ok I just got my turbo together and it all installed and I am running 6 psi on 93 octain and my fuel psi is set at 70 psi. Kinda slow off line but it starts spooling at 2500 rpms it hits 6 psi right away now. I also have nothing to tune it becides for a 1:1 fpr. But if I blow the motor oh well I am trying to see how much it can handle. So far so good. Hasent got too lean on me yet. But like i said only a 1:1 fpr. Thats all i want to run to get an idea of wat the engine can handle.

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I've seen your car a few times. You use to live by the hospital?

Minus the body mods, it seems like a decent car to me.

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It had aftermarket front end since i drove it out of the tech school. But yea I lived by the hospitle wile I went to collage.

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I saw that and was like:
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Certifit has 97-99 front bumpers for pretty cheap. (like $50 plus shipping)

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I have been hiting 10 psi of boost with 65 psi with 0 psi and 91 octane and it runs ok. It a dog off the line but once the boost hits hang on it starts boosting 5 psi at 2400. It runs good at 7500 rpm's. No predetition nothing becides for the tires brake loose in 4th gear and after that the cluch slips.

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Why are you running a 1:1 fpr w/o a tuning system?!?! Are you running resistor packs on those low-z 450's? because the factory injectors are high impedance. I think the stock injectors and a 12:1 fmu would be a smoother and more trust worthy set-up under the conditions you are running it right now.

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Yes I run a resitor pack. The injectors dont preform properly with out it. And as I said befor I am trying to blow it up. Because the block is junk and I want to be able to run power steering. the bolt holes on the block for the power steering and motor mount are broke and one hole has a bolt broke off in side it. So the block aint worth much at all and it is a good test bed for wat it can handle. Once I get the other motor built I will put all the tuning parts in. Like a new ecu, fuel lines, better exaust hook up other then a coat hanger and neon 5 speed tranny with lsd.

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What do you plan to do with the car? Drag, street, twisties?

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mostly drag and street. But still have the suspension to do the corning.

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Haha. Amazing gif. 5 stars.

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Bwahahahaha!

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I think you need to do a lot more research, doesn't seem like you know much about what you are doing. What kind of new ecu do you plan on going with. You are running 10 psi with stock exhaust?

And blowing a block up because some bolts are broken off into it? Talk about lazy. But don't worry, the way you are running it shouldn't take too long to toast the engine.

For some reason I have a hard time believing this as well. I think it's your clutch slipping the whole time and no tires spinning. Unless you are running very, VERY bald tires.

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First of all if someone cant tell if he is slipping the cluch or spinning the tires he shouldnt be driveing a car. Thier is a big diffrance between the two. And yea you would have to see the block to understand. It is just a test bed for some of the tuning parts I am trying to use. My next setup is an eight injector set up. I have 1800 miles on the tune I have now. I have beaten on it the entir time. The idle suck because of too much fuel to try and not go to lean at boosting. And for the tires they are almost new. And as far as research. I have been on alot of web sites. the one site I go off is 2gnt.com. they have alot of information. As far as what type of ems I am geting it would be magasquirt. But I am building the tranny first. The tranny will be a 1998 dodge neon. Yes i know that the bell housing is differnt. I will be switching them out. And also the neon has a 3.55 gear raito compard to the 3.94. It will have a lsd and a stage 3 cluch. Oh and by the way i know my engin should have blowen up already.

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Good for you. You are not breaking the tires loose in 4th gear at only 10 psi. I have owned a 420a-t that I turboed myself and Jungy will agree with me that spinning in 4th at 10 psi is not happening. And if you are planning on going with an 8-injector setup, why not just go with the Hahn Portfueler instead of MSnS?

1800 miles on the tune? Hardly call it a tune.

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Ok wtf listen to wat I have to say. i pretty much just churp the tirs in 4th i have done that once and ever since then it just slipps the cluch. Oh and by the way befor i even turbod the motor it would easly brake the tirs loose in 2 gear and little more then a churp in 3 gear. I am unsure the motor is complety stock, I could walk right past every 420a I raced when it was nt. I also raced an 95 acura intragra with a h22 5 speed header and cold air. we were neck and neck. And why pay so much for someting that dose the same exact thing and you dont even get to build it. All you do with a hann. is bolt on and tune. What is the fun in that. this is not like the 4g63 guys were you can just bolt and splice wires.

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For one I would not run a 12:1 fmu. My reason is that you max out your stock injector0 at bout 90 or so. Ok stock fuel psi with out vaccume is 43.5 psi. Ok so at 10 psi your fuel psi would be 163.5 psi of fuel. Ok that is way to much psi for your injectors to even think about trying to control. Befor you go with that figure out what you really need. To make this shorter I will skip all the fourmals. At 9 psi of fuel with stock injectors (235cc) you would want around 123 psi of fuel. Thats alot of fuel psi for the injectors to handle. thats why i got the 450s. yes i have the resitor pack. with out it you wont run verry long befor destroying the injectors or maybe you computer. so for the 450s you would want around 30 psi at idle and 40 psi at 9 psi of boost. but to run the 450s you would want a S-AFC for idle control.

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tuned dosnt mean that the tires roll and the engine dosnt blow Im guessing it just dumps fual rediculously at idle and low speeds, which means untuned and running poorly. I highly doubt you had a modded out engine in your 420, i have a 420 in my driveway and can tell you its worthless. Dont get so fiesty in here, mitsustlye is here to help you from experience not just pulling it out their ass