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Anyone install a FMIC on their own 2G?
Whats a good make/model for the $ ? Hoping to get something descent around $600 or so? How hard is the install? TIA....... |
Ive known of quite a few people installing their own. I know the BigGReddy is sorta popular. Barton (Slow White) has had a GReddy and the Apexi Skyline FMIC. I think he did the install work himself as well. Possibley Enes too.
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MOVED! In no way was this needed in Tech.
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--Hiss Hiss--
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Well it's not Tech. More so, not even close to advanced tech.
-- With a FMIC you get what you pay for. On 2Gs it's brand name Greddy/APEXi or you can buy some of the newer kits from differant companies. Pro Street, ect. But for less than $600.00. You won't find a nice new core design with endtanks and piping. |
Easy to install = small core
You need one that you have to mod every piece on the front end!! :D |
Sorry Allen, me Bad, ......again......
Thought I was in Basic Tech, but wasn't and then couldn't move my post? Anyway, Thanks for your input...... |
slowboyracing has em for cheap
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Check....
So around $850 for a nice big tanker with kit then right? Back to jets point, these big biatches gonna just be a PIA to install I suppose then? Any smaller cores that are still "nice" out there? |
em... meaning them.... www.slowboyracing.com has THEM for cheap
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What kind of plans do you have for the car? If you are going to stay 12's or higher, I would probably just get a big Greddy kit.
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Hell, If I can bust into the 13's this year it would be amazing.
Why is the Greddy just a POS or not support higher boost or? Plan on running 20 psi on pump gas, maybe 22 at the track on race gas. |
No, the Greddy is pretty decent, otherwise I wouldn't recommend it! It is a nice kit, but not an all out race kit that requires more cutting and costs more. It should be fine to a 12.0 (it will go lower but will start to be a restriction).
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What turbo you running 22 psi on? Hopefully not a T too small...
Get whatever is going to support your final goal. No need in buying a huge FMIC if you want to accomplish high 12s. But at the same time you don't want to get a small inefficient IC *cough STARQUEST cough* if you intend to replace it later with a larger one--not worth the work and money. |
Guess my final "dream run" would bust me into the high 11's, just once mind you.
Sounds like that Greddy could push a 11.87 on some cool morning right? Did you take a peak at that Greddy setup slowboy has? Will that HOG really fit in my 2G Talons front bumper without hacking it to shit! Looks pretty tight man? BTW Running a Big 16 now. |
I know I will get flamed for this, but since you are looking for a lower priced unit check out www.ahpproducts.com Stage 2 FMIC kits on sale for $650.
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Anyone out there run with one of these AHP setups yet? Is the Greddy worth the extra $200 or not? Looks to me like the Greddy's IC piping is at least steel?
Still need install review on that Greddy on a 2G? TIA..... |
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I do know the owner and talk with him semi-regularly. We keep in touch. I have found it best to drive to Eau Claire to pick stuff up from AHP if you don't live to far away. You can also deal through Archer Racing since they are an AHP vendor. IMO, the AHP is nicer than the GReddy, it uses a better core design and better pipe routing.
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I have personally witnessed a big greddy fmic kit aid in a FP small T28 pound out a 12.2 1/4 mile. I'd say it's support 11s with the right combo with ease.
I won't give my opinion on other kits out there as I have only personally used the APEXi Small setup which is just a bit smaller than the large greddy and for a complete kit I loved it. I am firm on the whole "you get what you pay for" thought process on something like a Front mount. |
Extreme PSI has the Big GReddy for $839. I have it and it works great. Not much difference between the standard and the big Greddy as far as installation goes. Just like RRE says, "They will not offer a 2g intercooler kit of their own as long as the Big GReddy kit is available for $900" (or less elsewhere). The big GReddy kit uses the Skyline core. And it takes advantage of all the available space in the bumper.
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all that brand names stuff is great, but in the end it's the I/C's ability to cool the air charge that matters. fact is most cooling is done within the first 6 inches of the intake-tank side. sometimes they have HP ratings for different core sizes which should give you an idea of the size you would need.
thick is good, and top-to-bottom flow would be the best, i believe. get spearco-style core. |
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They have their advantages as well as disadvantages.
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Whatever you get stay away from IRC (Indy race cores) a really good friend of mine ordered about 1,500 bucks worth of stuff last may and hasn't gotten any (he is in the process of sueing them at the moment)
Also my brother ran an IC with top to bottom flow (or the other way around I don't know) and he ran a 12.2 with an ETE 32. The IC's that flow like that are actually much better that way if they are set up right (notice how the stock one is set up?) They can be better because they arn't as hard to get air through. The best way to explain it is to get a straw blow through it. Then cut it in half and try again and you will see how much easier it is to blow through. To have one work best you need to get the air to enter through different sides not the same side though. (his was the same side) So in theory they can work alot better but most people don't use them cause they aren't as avalable. |
We can't be talking about IC's and relating them to ET's. I'd relate em to hp instead or mph and other variable factors like gas type and shit because if we keep just saying "oh this IC went 10.0" shit, my 1g stock IC went 12.6... maybe 2g guys should get one... if you want it I'll sell it to you. ;)
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Thanks all for the real world info. Think that Big Greddy for $839 might be the best ticket. Now if I can just get it to fly past "high command" here at the homefront? Any tips on doing THAT? Thanks again.
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Personally I used the greddy 24row for most of my dsm carrier. I had the greddy 16row also. Both were used with my HRC S20G.
It wasn't until I descided I wanted to go bigger turbo that I changed my set up. Just an FYI - Brant dyno 470whp with an FP Green and Greddy 24row. Personally though if I ever had to do it again I would go with the best that's available at this time. (at the time I purchased my FMIC Greddy was concidered top daug). However if I could do it again I'd go with the one I have now. Unless someone can figure out how to fit a Greddy 4 ROW Supra FMIC on a DSM and make it so it doesn't just make your front bumper all messed up. Believe me you'll hit your goal. And once you do you'll be like ok now I want to go faster. Hense Why I say go big from the start with all the best stuff. Cost more initially but if you have to upgrade then you'll be paying double. -brian |
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