New guy on the DSM scene.
 

my name is dustin, ive lived in minnesota all my life. i am 24 years old with a wife and 2 kids.

i would consider myself a jack of all trades when it comes to life in general, im excellent with computers, good with electronics, and decent with cars.

i work as a field install tech for a company called spartan computer services, i travel all over the US installing point of sale systems in restaurants.

i love sports, preferably hockey, im a die hard mn wild fan. i play world of warcraft in my spare time. i love fast cars, but im usually more of an "american muscle" kinds guy. ive owned 2 eclipses both dohc n/a.

first one i snapped the timing belt after owning it for 1 week.
second one the auto tranny went out after 2 weeks of ownership.

so needless to say my experiences with dsm thus far are not great.


this car i have now is my first 2g dsm. my other ones were 91 eclipses, this one is a 96 talon tsi awd.

seems like a nice car, but im pretty much clueless when it comes to import tuning and boost etc. i was a regular poster on ls1lt1.com when i owned my camaro.


really here to hook up with some people that know dsm's so i can learn a thing or three about diy because thats all i ever do.


just bought the car today, but its pretty sharp looking. from what i understand, all the work that was done to this vehicle was done at DB performance.


so if anyone is finding themselves bored tomorrow (friday) and wants to teach me a thing or two about dsm tuning/gauge hookup, i would greatly appreciate it. ill even bring a case of beer with if you would like.

i can teach you stuff you dont know and i do tons of computer/electronics/car audio work. so maybe we could work something out.

the issues im having with this vehicle are as follows:

im getting fuel cut without a ton of boost, the previous owner told me its because i dont have an adjustable fuel regulator, and the psi's are set very low because of that..

now after some online research, i came to the conclusion that theres too much air going through the manifold instead of not enough, and its not getting enough fuel.

i also have a 3 gauge pillar i have no idea how to hook up.

also needs a rear drivers side wheel bearing which i plan on doing myself at some point tomorrow.

basically i need someone to show me how to hook up the air/fuel meter, and the boost meter, and then help me to tune the psi's to the point where im not getting fuel cut cause im scared to shit im going to blow the engine.


thanks for your time, and i hope to get to know many of you not only here on the site, but also meet some people in person who enjoy these vehicles as much as i do.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Welcome! Search around here for info on installing boost and a/f gauges. There's plenty of us around to answer all the questions you could possibly come up with. Post up some pics of your ride! Does it have a stock turbo or something bigger, like a 16g? This could be the reason for you hitting fuel cut. If you have a full list of mods, that would be helpful too.

Be sure to read the forum rules on spelling/grammer/etc.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

i will post everything i know to the best of my ability,


it has a garrett t28r turbo and an evo manifold.

manual boost controller, now sure on the brand of the BOV

i believe the exhaust is an apexi n1 or w/e

stage 2 clutch with short throw shifter.

i know the engine was rebuilt and a lot of the work was done by DB but i dont have exact specs on it.

its also lowered 3-4 inches.

i know its got about 600 miles on the rebuild, and i believe that the internals were done right but im not 100% on it.

he said he had the psi's turned down way low because it needed a fuel pressure regulator to feed more fuel into it.

he also said it had large injectors, not sure how many cc's 600 is ringing a bell but not 100%


basically i need help installing the a/f meter, and the boost meter so i can tune the psi's to the right setting.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

and yeah ill be throwing up some pics asap.

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the previous owner failed to mention the fuel cut to me before the sale, so when it happened it startled me, ive never had that happen before.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Hey man, Welcome, Pics or ban!

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

:postalot:

Welcome.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Well if it has bigger injectors but no way to control them that could be an issue as well. Welcome though

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

whats up man, welcome

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

welcome and good luck.

checkout vfaq.com

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Welcome, read over the forum rules carefully and you will be just fine.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

The shift key is your friend.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Welcome. Glad to see another 2G. I have found great info from everyone here but with some searches most info is already available. Good luck with exploring your car.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

here goes


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Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Welcome! The car looks nice, and I hope you get the issues resolved soon. From what it sounds like, you have larger than stock injectors and nothing to control them with so they're dumping in way too much fuel, since the ecu thinks they're 450cc injectors. Another thing I see in your pics, is that your BOV is venting to atmosphere. Which means that as soon as the bov opens, it's like you have a huge boost leak, and all that metered air leaves the system, resulting in too much fuel entering the engine.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Do you know who used to own the car? I don't remember working on it, but I forget a lot in my old age. You don't need an adjustable FPR, you probably just need a good tuning system. You only ever really need an adjustable FPR on a DSM when you are running twin walbros or a huge single pump like a Bosch or Aeromotive.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

yeah i heard that i shouldnt be venting, thats the way i got it. some people like the noise, but i could care less as long as it functions properly.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

also its stalling after a few minutes of driving when i hit the clutch and let it idle down. its currently idling around 500-600 rpms and i have a feeling its too low.

usually when i stop at a light or i go on an offramp or onramp and let it idle down.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

ecoli, it was owned by a guy named brent baker.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

he told me the whole top end was done at DB. i also have no clue what fuel pump it has. all i know is i hit fuel cut at like 4500 rpms in 4th gear.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Just edit your post bro instead of making like 10 post in a row.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

looks good man.

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Nice looking car. Finding out what is all done to it is obviously your first step, you should have plenty of help from all of the people here.

Have fun with that rear wheel bearing though. They can be a real pain in the ass on an AWD car that has been in MN for most of its life. Be very careful not to ruin the axle. Almost impossible to find a replacement unless you have deep pockets.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

i was quoted 290 today at the shop if i do ruin the axle. unfortunately this wheel bearing was left along for so long, im worried that the axle is ruined anyways. i will find out tomorrow once i take it off. this car only has ever seen one winter according to previous owner so hopefully it wont be too bad.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Red for the win, looking good.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

First I will have to say welcome..... Also, I had the same problem with the fuel cut and at about the same rpm in the same gear.. I was running a 16G on stock injectors. I then went to LSE and had some stuff put on like 680cc injectors, 255 walbro lph fuel pump, ect.. and all the issues ended at that...

I would double check and make sure your not running stock injectors and go from there, maybe get a safc2 that will better tune your car

For the idle, yes that is too low and I am currently having that same issue of idleing low but mine won't die. I would have to say try adjusting the screw a little and see if it sticks to about 800-900 rpm's

The wheel baring is a BITCH!! I had to replace the same one about a year ago and the hub was completely stuck on the axle and it took like 21,000 lbs. of pressure to get it free and yes it wrecked the axle and had to be replaced for $800 trust me it sucks and your gonna need help on it.

Good luck with everything and once again WELCOME!

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

well, you were right about the wheel bearing. we spent 4 hours on it and couldnt get the hub off. we tried to do it without a puller. gonna rent one and try it again tomorrow.

hooked up air to fuel gauge and boost gauge today.

i figured there was a leak somewhere in my system and i found it today, the aftermarket gauge was hooked up but fell off. leaving a 3 way splitter open on one end near the manifold. well its hooked up properly now.

being as i have driven it yet, i dont know if the mixtures are off or not, but when i idle it , the a/f gauge hung around lean until it got to operating temperature then the a/f ratio was optimal leaning towards lean.

i think part of my fuel cut problem was due to my boost leak in the hose due to the aftermarket gauge falling off.

once i put it all back together tomorrow im gonna drive it and see if the problems are better.

also previous owner stated to me he wasnt sure if the injectors were upgraded, but that it has a walbro fuel pump. doesnt make much sense to me upgrading the fuel pump but not upgrading the injectors.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Im really thinking that the way it sounds is that your prob. running stock injectors.. Im not sure if you have a safc or anything like that but if you dont have anything to tune your car with and your running lean then you dont have bigger injectors. If you did you would be running pretty rich without tunning.

Thats just what i think but i could be wrong..?

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

as soon as i confirm what injectors i do have, safc is the next step for me.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Safc is a good step but if your going to be modding your car your gonna wont to get either dsm link or aem ems sometime in the future. Im actually in the process of getting dsm link for my car.

Also, keep me posted about that wheel bearing I wanna know what you had to go through to complete it. Once agian GOOD LUCK!

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

i cant get the hub off, its WTB new axle time. tried torch, sledge, everything for 3 days now. hasnt even moved 1 mm

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

I hate to say that I told you. Like I said before it took me 21,000 lbs of pressure to get mine off!

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

20000 lbs on mine and the i beam on the press caved and it bent my spindle.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

WOW.. dsm barings suck!!!

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

where did you get your replacement parts from?

everything front axle seems cheap as hell. but everthing rear axle is like its made of platinum or something.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Rear axle/bearing parts for an AWD DSM are impossible to find for reasonable prices. Good luck.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

i found the axle for 125 shipped, i need a hub now <.<

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

Welcome to the forums.

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

I just had mine rebuilt and so far i prob should have bought new cuz im getting some noise again comming from the drivers rear axle!

Re: New guy on the DSM scene.
 

car is fixed, no more fuel cut. looks like its running like 25 lbs of boost though.