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jimwross 02-29-2004 07:56 PM

Hey... So I was trying to launch the Spyder last night; I rev'ed it up to 3000-3500 and then feathered the clutch out; the trouble I had was after the clutch was out and I gave it gas and i was boosting, I had nothing but crazy wheel spin through first gear; I had to let off the gas to get it to stop.

Anyway lets just say this wasnt the "ideal" situation for me, and I was wondering if you all had any tips reguarding this.

The spyder is stock for right now, I did warm the tires up a bit before I ran; 14b w/ 2G install is on the way.

Thanks!

Jim

carltalon 02-29-2004 08:01 PM

What tires are you running?

2003eclipse 02-29-2004 08:02 PM

yah launch at about 2500 to 3000 and then get all over it, launching at 5000 in a FWD shit you should be launching an AWD at 5000

*since im the expert* yeah right

unreal808 02-29-2004 08:08 PM

Get some 235/65R15 slicks, 205/55R16s are shit to get a good launch, but I drop the clutch at 2500-3000 and than shut off the wipers.

Halon 02-29-2004 08:18 PM

when i had my eclipse, all i did was rev it to like 3500, then basically just slip the clutch, and then gave her only a little more than 1/2 throttle all the way through 1st. Full throttle in first will make your tires spin. Then i couldn't floor it in 2nd niether, maybe about 3/4 throttle. And after that just shift it and floor it. You'll prolly be able to floor it in 2nd because you're stock.

JDM 03-02-2004 11:30 PM

I have a 2003 Eclipse GTS, bout 220 hp at the crank right now.

I have an ACT 2400, and I launch at about 1500, give it half throttle till about 4000, then jump on it. I also have Z rated tires, and variable valve timing.

...and I know no one cares either...

maybe it'll help :razz2:

SuperSleeper 03-02-2004 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDM@Mar 2 2004, 11:30 PM
I have an ACT 2400, and I launch at about 1500, give it half throttle till about 4000, then jump on it. I also have Z rated tires, and variable valve timing.

...and I know no one cares either...

I care! Cool. :cheers:

jimwross 03-03-2004 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDM@Mar 2 2004, 11:30 PM
I have a 2003 Eclipse GTS, bout 220 hp at the crank right now.

I have an ACT 2400, and I launch at about 1500, give it half throttle till about 4000, then jump on it. I also have Z rated tires, and variable valve timing.

...and I know no one cares either...

maybe it'll help :razz2:

I want a run :-)

RedStal95 03-03-2004 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by jimwross@Feb 29 2004, 07:56 PM
Launching A Fwd, Any tips?
give up ;) j/k

Rev up to around 3000 and feather the clutch giving about 3/4 throttle until you hit around 4500 rpms. Then hit the gas like you have a stick up your ass. (i made a rhyme)

jimwross 03-03-2004 01:04 AM

Yeah... I dont know, cant go full throttle anywhere in 1st... but thanks for the tips!

niterydr 03-03-2004 02:28 AM

revlimiter?

1ViciousGSX 03-03-2004 03:03 AM

LSD :3gears:

BUCKY 03-03-2004 03:29 AM

If the car is stock get some bad ass drag radials and giver hell.

carltalon 03-03-2004 09:01 AM

245/50/16 nitto nt550 drag radials. I can hook up good with my car with a big 16g and 3 inch exhaust. and practice practice practice.

Enes 03-03-2004 09:39 AM

i need to get some cheap/free rims that i could fit some fat tires in the front ? who has some?

john 03-03-2004 09:52 AM

There is no such thing as launching a FWD. It is more like pussying a FWD. A stock 2g turbo can spin the hell out of the tires through 2nd gear not even trying. You are best off comming out of the hole like normal driving reaching ~50% throttle in 1st. In second, get on it ~75% throttle until you are about to shift when you can start to give it hell. Just practice. If you start to spin them, you are being too aggressive. If you aren't spinning them or wheelhoping, give it more gas.

Drag radials, slicks, LSD, motor mounts, and suspension will help you with traction problems. Most FWD owners keep it to the highway. Very few run fast 1/4 times.

JiN 03-03-2004 11:06 AM

I have a T28....and is there wheel spin like hell. Basically, I rev to about 3500, and slip the clutch. But I only give it like 50% throttle.Throw to second, give it like 75%. Once i'm outta the low rpms in second, I'll stomp the fucker WOT. Thats worked very good for me so far.

But as it's been noted....you dont launch a FWD. Not if you wanna win or have a good time at least. You do have to just pussy it. And stomp it once you get out of the wheelspin margin. But every car is different, depending on mods, tires, possibly even weight.

unreal808 03-03-2004 06:27 PM

I have a solid front mount( the one in the center) basically I took a plate of steel and welded it solid. This reduced wheel-hop and then I put in a half-shaft from an AWD (the left front CV shaft) to help with torque steer , I still have an open Diff, with an Diff pin welded in, but I still would not go back to the stock set up. most of the time if I drop the clutch bouth tires will lay rubber (sumtimes), but the inside tire will still spin in turns. :3gears: Just my two cents

JDM 03-03-2004 06:27 PM

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I have a 2003 Eclipse GTS, bout 220 hp at the crank right now.&nbsp;

I have an ACT 2400, and I launch at about 1500, give it half throttle till about 4000, then jump on it.&nbsp; I also have Z rated tires, and variable valve timing.&nbsp;

...and I know no one cares either...&nbsp;

maybe it'll help :razz2:

I want a run :-) [/b][/quote]
what ya got?

:beer:

Jakey 03-03-2004 06:28 PM

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I have a 2003 Eclipse GTS, bout 220 hp at the crank right now.*

I have an ACT 2400, and I launch at about 1500, give it half throttle till about 4000, then jump on it.* I also have Z rated tires, and variable valve timing.*

...and I know no one cares either...*&nbsp;

maybe it'll help :razz2:


I want a run :-)

what ya got?

:beer: [/b][/quote]
James picked up my buddies '97 GST Spyder :woowoo:

JDM 03-03-2004 06:31 PM

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@Mar 2 2004, 11:30 PM
I have a 2003 Eclipse GTS, bout 220 hp at the crank right now.*

I have an ACT 2400, and I launch at about 1500, give it half throttle till about 4000, then jump on it.* I also have Z rated tires, and variable valve timing.*

...and I know no one cares either...**

maybe it'll help :razz2:


I want a run :-)


what ya got?

:beer:

James picked up my buddies '97 GST Spyder :woowoo: [/b][/quote]
The only FWD I've ever lost to DSM wise would be Hughes... For good reason.

And well I flew past Nash one night in his purple GST, I had about 30 MPH and about 2 cars when I hear him stomp it in 5th, I'm in 3rd, and well, it wasn't pretty...

It's got no turbo, but it's mean up top. Kept with an older 4.6 mustang on a highway run, he walked me at 150 cause that's rev limiter...

jimwross 03-03-2004 06:35 PM

My car is purple to?

"he walked me at 150 cause that's rev limiter..." uh oh! i'd shit my pants before we got to 150 i think oh wait 2G 137mph gov.

Actually, I'm pretty sure a friend and I will come down to Preston Trout days so maybe then!

JDM 03-03-2004 06:36 PM

Let's run sometime (on the track of course) jk

What mods??

jimwross 03-03-2004 06:39 PM

I live up north (fargo) :-\ but def. sometime. Just got the car a week or two ago, so just starting to collect the parts.

14b, 2g install, walbro 255 and mbc within the next week; by trout day's should have turbo back and hopefully a supra side.

How about you?

JDM 03-03-2004 06:41 PM

AEM CAI, 2400 ACT, Some "custom" exhaust work, some sticky rubber, and a really good left foot...

jimwross 03-03-2004 06:44 PM

2003 Eclipse GTS:
Curb weight 3,241 lbs.

Hey! We're both heavy, should be pretty close.

JDM 03-03-2004 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by jimwross@Mar 3 2004, 06:44 PM
2003 Eclipse GTS:
Curb weight 3,241 lbs.

Hey! We're both heavy, should be pretty close.

At full weight with subs stock, I ran a 15.6 with a 2.4 60ft

Stripped stock I ran a 15.0 with a 2.3 60 ft

We'll see how I do stripped this year...

JDM 03-03-2004 06:46 PM

It will be the race of the CENTURY!

Or maybe just a really good run...

jimwross 03-03-2004 06:53 PM

I just need an aluminum wing and then I'll definently win. Has to be 24" or higher though.... ;-) ;-)

JDM 03-03-2004 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by jimwross@Mar 3 2004, 06:53 PM
I just need an aluminum wing and then I'll definently win. Has to be 24" or higher though.... ;-) ;-)
you aint got nothin on me in visual HP buddy... My sticker mods will amaze you, not to mention my white rims and exhaust tip...

jimwross 03-03-2004 07:23 PM

shieet... own3d


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