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RIPP 4G SDS Stage 2
RIPP is working on their Stage 2 Supercharger and they put up a video here on 8psi... making some pretty damn good power on 8psi and stock internals (I think).
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Nice! Just need AWD then. Any word on longevity of the stock internals yet?
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Not bad power at all for only 8 psi :)
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Stage 1 which runs like 4psi has been on some cars for a good 6 months... but i've hardly seen any dyno results and 0 track results from the 20 or so people who have it. 4G scene is pretty slow going so far. :frown: Thus is the life of a stock NA motor I guess. |
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I'd really love to see what the potential of the 4G is. It has great styling and saved us from the 3G. Hope to see more soon.
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I'll try and update this forum with all the 4G info I can! Maybe I should start a thread or something... hmm.
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now we have guys with the mostly stock i4s boosted pushing 250+, evo swaps pushing 300+, supercharged v6s pushing 400. give it time, it'll happen. :) |
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evo swaps = 300? who cares, its an evo motor thats where it should be.
It looks like with time some people will turn everything into a sports car. |
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considering those people who bought the car and stock hp to the wheels is 110-120, a swap to 300 hp in a galant isnt too bad in my opinion. Quote:
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Hahaha! Love the comments boys.
I'm digging that setup Tim! 300+whp on the stage 1, 400whp on stage 2, these are impressive numbers, especially on dyno dynamics! Even if they fudged the numbers a bit (not saying they did) it would still be an impressive amount of power for each stage. How much are these kits? Tim, your car put down what, ~235whp on the current mods you have? 300whp is really not that far off with forced induction, I mean you have a freaking 3.8L motor under the hood! |
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Who you callin a boy, boy ;)
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Well I went ahead and found it because I know how to use teh google.
The only thing I do not like about the kit is what it expects of the upper radiator hose. https://www.rippstore.com/photos/0607SDSV6-1-3.jpg Fine it snakes over the pulley shaft, but does it have to also go right over that mounting bracket? That is just asking for trouble somewhere down the line IMHO. Looks like a solid kit though, well thought out, nice and simple: https://www.rippstore.com/photos/0607SDSV6-1-2.jpg Order it up! I'm sure we can bolt it on in my garage this saturday! ;) It's interresting how they went about dealing with tuning and needing more fuel. https://www.rippstore.com/photos/06F...lon-2650-2.jpg Adds 1300cc's of fuel....why wouldn't they just include bigger injectors for the stock fuel rail(s)? Also, I don't see this item on the picture above w/ the S/C kit installed, but it is supposedly included? |
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DSM's are the ultimate race car. That is all.
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whats the price of this kit? id go to their site, but the firewall at work doesnt like it. i know RIPP made a kit of the galant, but it was like $3500+
edit - lol @ ultimate race car! |
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that is a nice looking kit/ that would be a lot easer to do than building a turbo kit for you tim
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Yup, and with the warranty it comes with you would be in good shape!
With FWD wheel-spin would become an issue, but the car would be a crapload of fun, especially on the freeway! |
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Christ you guys are gonna run my bank account into the ground telling me you wouldn't mind helping me install it.
The stage 1 kit is $3800. It's dyno'd for some people in the 330 range, but the 1 guy I actually get to talk to on the forum has his tuned conservatively to 311whp. Stage 2 isn't available yet, i'm also a little wearing because nobody knows exactly how much power our pistons can handle or how long they can withstand the 8psi stage 2 setup. I think last time I was hangin with you guys I mentioned I am getting more tempted by the day by this kit, but I guess i'm still pretty cold feet on it. I'll keep thinking on it, and it would probably be well into next year before I could afford it + have some money around in case something goes wrong. " Order it up! I'm sure we can bolt it on in my garage this saturday! ;)" Keep sayin stuff like that though and I just might. :D |
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I'd sure as hell show the SRT kids whats up. :D EDIT: Also... if I had to guess at a price I would say minimum 5000ish for the Stage 2. Unless they price drop the Stage 1 a bunch and then price the Stage 2 accordingly. Thats also retail on their website, I don't know if they budge on pricing or not. |
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Sorry I hate to triple post like a noob but RIPP just made a post on the C4G forums and I thought it was worth reposting here...
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Hrm, seems to run a little lean, anyone else back me up on this? Or maybe because it's such low boost it doesn't matter....
So what's teh difference between stage1 and stage2? add a meth kit and more boost? different pulley? Xfactor, did you order one yet?!?! ;) |
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I guess it's actually just a reconfiguration of the Stage 1....
"This is the RIPPMODS Supercharger Drive System (SDS) being tested for the first time in Stage 2 form. Stage 2 has additional fuel adders our Black box and BRAT engine management. We added our RIPP Boost Cooler, Meth injection system. Producing an impressive 400WHP at 8psi this kit will be our entry level system. This test was performed with the RIPP headers in place and the addition of a 3.0" exhaust and no cat." Wording from the youtube video. |
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Why not just sell the 4g, and put that money for the SC into buying an evo. ;) You're car is still auto, and im sure it wouldnt like that added power too long.
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I just got pricing info from RIPP... 4200 for the stage 2.
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Holy shit, piezo knock sensor, that is some advanced shit! And quoting EGTs!
Anyways, I will quit being an ass. That kit would actually be better traction wise compared to a turbo, supercharges like that don't make instant boost like a roots or twin screw. They make max boost at max RPM. A turbo would come on much harder and could reach max boost by 3000RPMs instead of 7200RPMs. They must be doing something right to still be making their kits. The first ones for 3Gs were a mess and detonation nightmare, but that was before the "Black Box". |
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MMMM... Supercharger lag. As Shane said, probably better for traction anyways.
Side note, I can only imagine the ECU is capable of being flashed like an EVO’s, I wonder how long it will be before people crack the code. |
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But a Porsche would be a good upgrade. :) |
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Nah I mean I understand your point... and I understand at the same time that I am driving a sport coupe. But i've already redone the suspension and put a decent amount of time into it, other then possibly building the engine up a little to have it tailer made for boost something like this is almost the only logical next step if what my goals are include more power.
I guess my motives stretch much further then just power though, I went for the 4G because of the looks. I actually held an EVO in one hand and held the 4G in another and weighed my options, and I decided I wanted the comfort and style the Eclipse had. I like the EVO body and all, but I have to say in my own opinion I like the 4G much better for looks and comfort. But of course, since buying my car (at it is my first step into the modding world) I got bit by the performance bug. I'm not jumping on board with this project yet, but currently, after looking at it for 6 months now and not really considering, with the new developments my mouth is watering a little. Plus I would take a huge hit if I sold my car, I would be lucky to break even on my loan. |
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The changes are:
Smaller SDS pulley Boost cooler (meth) Tune Cooler plugs |
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for the money go with the stage 1 get a meth kit for that
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Holy low end torque! Can we say wheel spin??? hahaha. I understand the boost won't come on that hard, but with ~225 torque at 2400 rpm in a fwd car, I think the tires would be a litle inclined to spin.
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Can you tweak the auto to launch from 2nd or rev limit somehow in 1st gear to help with traction? IDK. It would be a blast on the street but track would be tough it seems.
Everyones got an Evo now days. Stick with the 4G so we can see what they're made of! |
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They just need an AWD 4G.
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It would've been nice. Can only hope the next generation will have it though, they won't be doing anything radical with the 4G. The new SE was their last lame attempt to the 08 model. It wasn't really lame but there was nothing truly significantly good.
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Wow, I can say that I would be *very* interested in a 400whp, supercharged 3.8L AWD coupe!
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is the 3.8 a narrow or wide block. The evo rear end will go in easy but the evo tranny not to sure with the 3.8
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I'm too much of a noob to know the difference. :(
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"Originally Posted by XFactor http://club4g.org/board/images/buttons/viewpost.gif How does the fuel system work out? I know you guys just add the 2 additional injectors, but how is the reliability on that? Instead of just replacing the stock fuel system? Since you brought up SRT 4's, their stage 3 kit fully replaces the stock fuel injectors, fuel rail, and fuel pump. It also costs about the same. Not trying to point fingers, but they seem to be getting more for their money, with somewhat same performance. (stage 1 SDS vs their stage 3 turbo kit.) Mostly just asking about the reliability and stuff of adding 2 injectors vs upgrading the stockers, I don't even know what the stockers are capable of." The stock injectors are map-able to about 3psi then as boost comes up we pulse the supplementals in. When we do our initial testing we monitor exhaust temps on each cylinder to make sure the intake manifold equally distributes the extra fuel properly. In this case it does so beautifully. Reliability has been 100% so far, we've been supplying this set up for 3 years and its proven to be the most user friendly keeping all things in consideration:
The Stage 3 "R" produces 310whp on pump gas and 360whp on race gas. We've seen it on the DYNO at least 20 times. If you add a good waste gate to it in creeps up to 380ish! But remember that car comes with Force induction and 225whp stock. As an N/A car you guys are "supposed" to spend more. The example was just an exercise in performance per dollar is comparison to what we see. We've installed headers, air filter and ECU tuned a new ZO6 and it made 549whp... but thats $70-80k BRAND new lol. Tech Does this seem legit? Anyone know anything about additional injectors being reliable and stuff?/ |
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