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From request to taser: 20 seconds

http://www.statesman.com/news/mplayer/other/32386

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Wow that's pretty rough. Granted that guy should have just cooperated and gave him the license and none of this would have happened.

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yes but 20sec to a tase is a little to much

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I agree.

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Wow, how much trouble can the officer get in?

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he could get demoted and have a unpaid leave

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Cops seem to get carried away with those things. They are supposed to be used in situations where there is a signiffigant physical danger to someone, but lethal force is not required. IE: Someone swinging on everybody who comes near them. Unfortunately police seem to use them as compliance tools. Way overstepping their bounds.

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Crazy stuff, I hope I never run into a cop like that.

~John

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I see no problem. How hard is it to follow simple directions from an authoritative figure? Now if he would've got a couple of slugs for that, that might be a problem. :wink:

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If you listened the guy was looking for his license and insurance and the cop was getting impatiant. Then started yelling at him. My first time getting pulled over, I got pulled over from a cop worse than that and all he did was yell at me for going like 3 over in the fast lane... Now I fucking hate cops!

IMO this cop was WAY out of line.

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Ya, use of the taser was pretty much not necessary IMHO. The person *could* have been a little more compliant, but at the same time the timeline of it all going down was a little too quick. Impatient bastards!

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Completely uncalled for.

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I was just going to say that. The guy never back talked the cop until the cop started yelling. He was looking for his license, i know sometimes ill put my license in my jacket instead of my wallet or have a lot of cards in my wallet and it takes longer then what the cop gave him.
I would definatly be sueing them. I would have actually been talking shit to the cop while i was on the ground asking him to tase me again so i can get some more money. LOL This cop deserves to get a big fine.
He was also prolly pissed because he had to work on thanksgiving. LOL "I HUNGRY COP I GET CRANKY WHEN I HAVE NO DOUGHNUTS!!!"

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Wow, That was way out of line. He didn't even give warning that he was going to use the taser. He just said Stop, then immediately pulled the trigger. I agree the guy could have been a little more compliant, but come on, 20 seconds to get his license and insurance before the cop drags him out of the car? That's a little insane.

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That guy was mouthing off almost the whole time, he got what he deserved. You guys obviously don't realize what cops deal with all day, every day, losers, liars and deadbeats. If every single person you talked to every day lied to you, called you names, tried to get away or just mouthed off, do you think you would just kick back and go patiently through the official police process for dealing with individuals? I've gone on several ride alongs with a buddy of mine on the Blaine police force. You'd be surprised at the crap they put up with every day.

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That's part of the job, that is why they have official policies. Not saying it is right, or that should happen, but I am sure you are supposed to warn a person before you taze them. Like said above, tazers are supposed to be instead of deadly force, they can kill some people with bad hearts.

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I know what goes on sence that is what ali does and she said it went to far that fast

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Can't watch it, I'm at work. (Blocked) Some cops are just dicks, most are frairly reasonable. Sounds like this Cop was a little trigger happy with the taser.

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The cop acted completely unprofessional and obviously unethically, like most cops do.

The cop was in absolutely no personal danger other than pulling the man out of the car and using a TASER on him which exposed the officer even closer to the traffic that was very close doing 60+mph.

Jet is right, TASERs have killed many people. These things are not to be used in any situation. As a matter of fact they should not be allowed at all. It is the same as playing Russian roulette with someone else's life. Is that okay? "well this guy isn't giving me his ID and registration fast enough... I think I'll risk killing him for not complying fast enough!" Is this okay... honestly? Why do we the people give the cops this authority? Oh that's right.... we don't.

Goatblower, with all due respect, you are completely wrong. Cops deal with assholes just like everyone else in the world. Why should they get special treatment? They don't "put up" with shit, they picked the job. If they were naive enough to think that they were going to be "helping the community" and everything was going to be perfect, they should be the ones getting electrocuted.

Of course it is proper to be polite to an officer that is communicating with you, which the guy in this video was trying to do. People do not pick the job of a police officer because they think it is a friendly job. But if you are a police officer and you cannot understand that the man does not instantly have his ID and registration ready you should consider offing yourself from the world. If this guy was getting his ID and registration ready when the cop was walking to the car this douche bag probably would have just shot him anyway. The guy was breaking an insignificant law and attempting to assist the officer and the officer risked both of their lives by not only pulling him out of the car, but then again by using his TASER. Is that really okay? Should we be so intimidated by the police that we have to have a script ready to read off to them when we get pulled over so we don't get electrocuted?

The whole time I was hoping a semi was gonna hit that fucker.
Honestly I do not hate many people, but fuck I hate cops.

And no I'm not some guy who is pissed because cops put me in jail for stealing a car while high on crack and ended up killing 3 people. I very rarely get in trouble (see: caught) and when I have gotten in trouble it has been for very minor violations.

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Not to mencion people he was going 70 in a freakin 65!!!!! 5 fuckin miles over the speed limit gets you treated like that. Im going to disregard the no plates bull shit because there is a strong chance he just bought the car.

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Uhh, when you buy a car without plates, you get a 21-day temporary tag. I guarantee he didn't get pulled over for speeding, but having no plates is a big no-no. There was more going on than you saw.

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Sorry, I don't see it that way. Do you have any statistics to back up your claim of all these needless deaths? The taser was designed to take down a criminal without any physical damage, a heavy shock is a good way to do that. If you think you can talk every person down in any situation, you're fooling yourself. People are on all kinds of drugs, have mental illness problems, etc, etc. There are just going to be times when the person gets what they deserve. Asking cops to do their jobs without any protection for themselves is insane, it's a dangerous job for which they should be respected for.

And I hope you were kidding about a car hitting him. That statement alone ruined any credibility you had in this argument.

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Damn man, i didnt even see you in the video. Were you the passenger seat?
I see cars all the time without plates. In california there is a little strip of paper on the front window that makes it legal to drive without plates. Usually there will be a dealer plate on the back that just says the name of the dealer.
Unless the guy had a bat or some form of weapon or made a move against the cop, then the cop was not in any danger whatsoever.

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http://www.aclu.org/police/abuse/19977prs20051006.html

Do I honestly need to prove this? Have you ever driven in Minnesota? At all? Rhetorical indeed, I know you have. We all know this country is full of idiot drivers. Take these same idiots and put them at 70+mph in vehicles that are well over 2000lbs and bad shit is going to happen. I'm really not sure how this can even be contested? It is in the news, on other TV shows all the time, and it is just kind of common sense. They even made a 'Pull over for emergency vehicle' law in Minnesota. I'm sure you've seen the signs on the freeway... you can get a ticket for not slowing down (I believe 20mph under the limit) or pulling over to the other lane.

There are certainly better ways of ruining peoples lives than using a TASER on them. Just convict them of some ridiculous crime and throw 'em in jail for the rest of their lives! Yay America!

There's my credibility.... let's see yours :)

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I watched the Video. Either the guy WAS doing something you can't see or hear to warrant such actions, or the cop was WAAAYYY out of line. Listen to his voice, he goes from "firm" to "completely ticked" in one sentence. And the pause between the two sentences wasn't long enough for the guy in the car to say or do much. Who knows, maybe the cop pulled the car over cause a car matching that description was reported stolen.

Don't take this as me sticking up for the cops actions, just saying there may have been a reason the cop went off as fast as he did. Might have been having a bad day (not an excuse) or might have known something was up (wouldn't he have called for backup before he got them stopped) . Taken at face value, he was way out of line.

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Ya, there is a lot that we can't see, so who knows what was really going on in that car. But from this footage alone, it seems the cop got out of hand.

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When I bought my car private party in Wisconsin the previous owner kept the plates leaving me to drive home without any license plates. Apparently the plates stay with the owner in that state.

Also, I've had a bracket snap and lost a plate before.

Just thought I'd throw some possibilities in as long as we're doing hypotheticals here....

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They have the same deal in Iowa, but I towed my car home so it didn't really matter.

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here is one on a power trip
it is long the guy had a camra in is car running the whole time
pt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMllB...eature=related
pt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjrCa...eature=related
pt 3 the end it got on the news
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMllB...eature=related

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in the end the cop got fired for this