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GsXtUrBo98 12-08-2007 03:28 PM

95 talon awd
 
Ok so here is the thing. My gf has a 95 tsi that i was going to buy for parts cuz it was only going to cost me $200 for the whole car. The car only needed a turbo so i bought and put one in it to get it running. The car had a new engine put into it and was running well with the new turbo. The only downfall is that its an auto http://www.dsmstyle.com/forums/images/icons/icon9.gif. O well i gave it to her anyways.

So the problem is that the power steering belt squeals all the time. It has new belts that were just put on not too long ago. So now im in the situation with her, but i have my own things to do with my 98 GSX!

Is there any chance the belt could be too tight?? When i tighten it up it goes away for a while but then it comes back so, If anyone has any idea just let me know.

twack 12-08-2007 03:42 PM

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Did you check to make sure it was full of ps fluid?? If its low it will squeal.
p.s. nothing wrong with an auto

Kevin 1G Drummer 12-08-2007 03:47 PM

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That's what you get for getting another dsm! haha jk, But yeah, check the fluid level, and also the tension of the belt.

GsXtUrBo98 12-08-2007 03:53 PM

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Alright thanks guys..

Ill post what happens with it all. My gf is at work with the car so ill have to check it out when she gets off.

P.S there's nothing wrong with an auto i just prefer to be in more control of my car. Plus you cant help but want a stick!!!!

GsXtUrBo98 12-09-2007 12:51 AM

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Ok here's the thing... I checked the fluid levels on the ps and its full!! i checked the belt and it has a little more then just "some play". So the next problem is that whenever you tighten the belt it seems to find away to loosen itself again.. its already been tightened like three or four times and the prob still presists!!!!

I would like to hear some more input on the subject.......

4g63tcrazy 12-09-2007 01:00 AM

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Hmm. Maybe some lock-tite on the bolts?

JET 12-09-2007 01:12 AM

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What kind of belt is it? Do you put a pry bar behind the PS pump when you tighten it?

GsXtUrBo98 12-09-2007 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JET (Post 220148)
What kind of belt is it? Do you put a pry bar behind the PS pump when you tighten it?

im not sure my gf dad was the last one that did it and it went back to squealing soon after

and i would be afraid to use lock tight cuz im sure i wanna be able to loosen and tighten that screw....

JET 12-09-2007 01:26 AM

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Blue loc-tite can easily be unscrewed

GsXtUrBo98 12-09-2007 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JET (Post 220152)
Blue loc-tite can easily be unscrewed

ok ill have to give that one a try then...

Gravy 12-11-2007 03:37 AM

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On my car i found it easier with two people, one to pull on the pry bar and feel the tension on the belt, and the other to tighten the bolt when the first person tells them too. Did mine once that way, didn't have to do it again. And tighten it good and hard.

blageo23 12-11-2007 11:24 AM

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Its probably just loosening up. And just an FYI: if your power steering pump was low it wouldnt squeal, it would wine.

x-pride 12-11-2007 11:31 AM

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Did you check your alternator belt?

niterydr 12-11-2007 12:45 PM

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Sounds like the belt is glazed, spec is I think 1/2" deflection.
Replace the belt or try using a wax pen under the belt while the engine is running to deglaze it :).

GsXtUrBo98 12-11-2007 07:23 PM

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Well the belt is brand new and im sure that it just stretched a bit, so im going to try tightening it one more time and see what happens with that....

what about the adjuster bolt???? couldn't I just use that to tighten it?

blageo23 12-11-2007 07:29 PM

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There is no adjuster bolt. The ps belt tensions by prying the pump and tightening the mounting bolts.

GsXtUrBo98 12-11-2007 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blageo23 (Post 220572)
There is no adjuster bolt. The ps belt tensions by prying the pump and tightening the mounting bolts.

ok...

GsXtUrBo98 12-12-2007 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by x-pride (Post 220466)
Did you check your alternator belt?

The adjuster is on the alternator for the belt, and I tightened the ps belt.. STILL SQUEALING!! Im thinking that it could be the alternator belt instead.. Anyone else have the same problem??

GsXtUrBo98 12-13-2007 12:08 AM

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?????

Andrew7dg 12-13-2007 12:42 AM

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I would make sure both are tight.

Try this old mechanic trick. Get some belt dressing and put a little on one belt and see if it goes away. If not try the other belt.

In my experience if a belt was making noise, it was always the alternator belt. Could be a sign of a failing alternator also. Had that happen also.

GsXtUrBo98 12-13-2007 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew7dg (Post 220743)
I would make sure both are tight.

Try this old mechanic trick. Get some belt dressing and put a little on one belt and see if it goes away. If not try the other belt.

In my experience if a belt was making noise, it was always the alternator belt. Could be a sign of a failing alternator also. Had that happen also.

Ok so all i have to do is try tightening the screw/bolt for the alternator and see if it stops squealing or not. Then if it does try the belt dressing??

Ok but what if i do the belt dressing and find out that its the alternator and its tight?? do i get it tested to see if its bad? or what

JET 12-13-2007 01:04 AM

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Then it would likely be a bad belt, it could have oil on it. That usually goes away though. Might just be a crappy belt that gets hard in the cold. It probably just isn't tight enough.

GsXtUrBo98 12-13-2007 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JET (Post 220748)
Then it would likely be a bad belt, it could have oil on it. That usually goes away though. Might just be a crappy belt that gets hard in the cold. It probably just isn't tight enough.

Ok ill check it tomorrow.. Its so fuckin cold out that I dont wanna fix it cuz no room in the garage now cuz thats where the GSX goes!!! lol

So i tighten it with that bolt right????

blageo23 12-13-2007 01:22 AM

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First you loosen the bolt that connects to the alternator, then you tighten the tensioner bolt.

JET 12-13-2007 01:23 AM

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Yep, 12mm, goes the normal clockwise direction. You will likely have to push the bolt down once in a while, it likes to ride up. If it pops out, then you get to loosen it back up and start all over again.

GsXtUrBo98 12-13-2007 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JET (Post 220755)
Yep, 12mm, goes the normal clockwise direction. You will likely have to push the bolt down once in a while, it likes to ride up. If it pops out, then you get to loosen it back up and start all over again.

Wow that one sounds like fun!!!! not! but i never really is when it has something to do with maintainance, but upgrading is a different story lol.

blageo23 12-13-2007 01:41 AM

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A ratchet wrench is your friend when it comes to tightening the ALT belt

JET 12-13-2007 02:38 AM

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Yeah, that or a flex head ratchet. It is really quite easy though.

munchgsx 12-13-2007 08:19 AM

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I did a V-8 swap into a Astro van, belts squealed like crazy but they were tight. Dad hands me a bar of soap and says start it and let it run on the belt. Never squealed again.

Andrew7dg 12-13-2007 10:06 AM

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Depending on the last time you changed the belts, it maybe worth just replacing both when you go to the autoparts store. That way you know you have good belt for the winter and wont have to mess with them for a while.

GsXtUrBo98 12-13-2007 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew7dg (Post 220774)
Depending on the last time you changed the belts, it maybe worth just replacing both when you go to the autoparts store. That way you know you have good belt for the winter and wont have to mess with them for a while.

just replaced ALL the belts less then a month ago...

So i sould put a bar of soap under the belts as its running?????
Obviously if tightening the alt. belt doesnt work i mean???

AwdGSX13 12-13-2007 12:44 PM

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My alternator belt was giving me the same bs just the other day, although when i tightened mine down i had the same problem. It wouldnt stay tight. Since mine doesnt have the adjustment screw all i did was put a washer in between the two tension pts on the front of the alternator that the bolt goes through. Havnt had a problem since.

Dont tighten it too tight, ive had one snap on me because of it being too tight. And if the belt is squeeling, chances are that the components are fine its just the belt. Soap works very good as dressing, same with wax pens.

Andrew7dg 12-13-2007 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GsXtUrBo98 (Post 220788)
just replaced ALL the belts less then a month ago...

So i sould put a bar of soap under the belts as its running?????
Obviously if tightening the alt. belt doesnt work i mean???

Well that might solve it for a little bit but using a bar of soap everytime the car squeels seems kind of dumb to me.

On a date,

"Excuse me for a minute, my cars belts are squeeling. Do you have a bar of soap I can use?"

Just use the soap technique as a tool (same as belt dressing, doesn't matter which one you use)

After checking to see if both belts are tightened

Apply it to one belt, if it doesn't stop
apply to second belt

If the squeeling stops on the belt, you know which one is giving you problems.

If it doesn't stop, replace belts and see if that stops it

How long have they been squeeling? You could have burned through one by now. still don't rule out the alternator.

GsXtUrBo98 12-13-2007 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew7dg (Post 220808)
Well that might solve it for a little bit but using a bar of soap everytime the car squeels seems kind of dumb to me.

On a date,

"Excuse me for a minute, my cars belts are squeeling. Do you have a bar of soap I can use?"

Just use the soap technique as a tool (same as belt dressing, doesn't matter which one you use)

After checking to see if both belts are tightened

Apply it to one belt, if it doesn't stop
apply to second belt

If the squeeling stops on the belt, you know which one is giving you problems.

If it doesn't stop, replace belts and see if that stops it

How long have they been squeeling? You could have burned through one by now. still don't rule out the alternator.

All of the belts are about a month old and they squeal pretty bad from takeoff and continues through second gear but stops after about a block but it squeals after every takeoff!!

Its really embarassing!!

Andrew7dg 12-16-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GsXtUrBo98 (Post 220859)
All of the belts are about a month old and they squeal pretty bad from takeoff and continues through second gear but stops after about a block but it squeals after every takeoff!!

Its really embarassing!!


Did you get this thing fixed yet?

GsXtUrBo98 12-16-2007 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew7dg (Post 221074)
Did you get this thing fixed yet?

Have not had the time latley im going to try and get it fixed within the couple days.... With the holidays around the corner its tough to do these things if you know what i mean..


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