Anyone heard of GT Pro?
 

Its a shop here in CA that mostly tunes exotics, 3S', and many other cars. I heard he is REALLY good with the AEM EMS system (which hopefully he will be good with dsmlink then).
Im going to be getting tuned FINALLY on saturday at that shop. The tuners name is Denis. Just wondering if anyone has heard of them before?
Their website is www.gtpro.com

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I've heard good things. Why not just go to RRE though since they have a ton of fast DSM experience?

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Yes, they have been around for a long time with 3S's and a bit of DSM stuff.

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Tom, quit trying to reinvent the wheel every chance you get. Go to RRE and get it done with.

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DSMLink is the easiest system on the planet to tune.

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the problem with RRE right now is that scot grey, the guy who tunes all those fast dsms is out of the country until thanksgiving. And they dont usually tune on the weekends, only on tuesdays.
Denis will be going to SEMA until friday night then saturday he is gonna tune.

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So you're gonna go to a shop that has less expierence tuning DSM's, rather than wait a couple weeks and get it done at a shop that has loads of expierence? IMO, it seems kinda backwards.

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plus RRE keeps talking shit because i buy shit from extremepsi instead of paying their high ass prices for the same shit. Scot Grey is cool but i dunno about the rest of them.

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Good luck :).
Fortunally like Shane said, anyone should beable to "tune" with a dsmlink, especially if they follow instructions :)

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went to GTPro tonight, great shop, really nice, i felt like i was in a Lexas Dealership. They got her strapped to the dyno and couldnt get a good a/f reading and couldnt get it to idle for shit. Turned out that my Magnus SMIM Heat barrier gasket was bad and leaking. So im gonna go back next week after getting a new one and we will get her in tune and out of trouble. :)

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Heat barrier gasket?

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Why bother with that? People on here have already proven that they're more trouble than they're worth. Do you really think air rushing through your intake manifold is going to have time to absorb heat before entering the engine?

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im going to go pick up a normal intake manifold gasket right now. I bought that gasket when i got the INtake manifold. At least the bastard should run better now.

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Do yourself a favor and do a boost leak test before you go back to the dyno. If you don't do that you are shooting yourself in the foot!

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+ abazillion

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Why would Tom do any sort of pre-dyno or preventative maintenance? :hah:

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Ya, I wouldn't go to RRE neither. I hate those guys. Especially when they give you a discount after you've shopped there a couple times, or when they send you free shit in the mail, or respond to your emails the same day. I'd feel much better having a shop that looks pretty tune my car rather than some OG DSMers.

As for the heat barrier, I've never heard anything bad about them. Do you have any links to proof of them sucking?

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They work well in the Honda-world.

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The heat transfering to the intake manifold is where the positives might be had. The IM wouldnt get as hot as it would without a gasket, therefore reducing intake temps a little... Not sure how well it works with Forced induction because leaks probably occur more often.

Tom are you ever going to just do it right the first time?

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The concept of a phenolic spacer is not new; but in reality they often are more of a PITA to deal with than the gains they provide. Is that spacer a gasket itself, or do you have to stick manifold gaskets on either side of it to get it to work?

How about just ditch it and run E85 or alky injection? :D

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As many links as I have to prove that they don't suck. My point is you can touch the intake manifold all you want to see if it's hot or cold and then convince yourself that it is affecting the intake air temp, but in reality when the air is moving who knows how fast through the intake which really does not have that much surface area how much do you think it is heating up the air? Most likely not enough to justify the pain in the ass job it is to keep a leak-free spacer between the head and the intake manifold.

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If you do use one, a few good coats of copper spray with no gaskets should make it seal, that is if the head flange of your SMIM is flat.

~John

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I personally planned on running one once I get my manifold. I've just never heard anyone say that they are a complete waste. I figure they can't hurt. But I haven't researched the topic to death, so all I was asking is if you have some good info about why they are such a waste of time, I'd be interested in reading it. I don't think I'll have a problem keeping it leak free. A gasket and some copper spray should work fine, plus the fact that I'm going to have the flange milled before I put it on the car to ensure it's flat. I've definately touched my head after some driving, and it is definately hot. No matter how short of a time the air is in there, I'd think a little bit of that heat would effect the air temp in there. So if you have some good info on it, please share. I'm going to search about it for a little bit myself though now, because now I'm curious as to what could really be wrong with using one.

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I have heard mainly bad things too, most of them tend to warp. A while ago I figured out how fast the air was moving through a 2.5" pipe, I think it was 187 mph at 7k rpm for a 2.4l. How long do you think the air is going to sit in the intake manifold at those speeds and what do you think the temp rise is going to be? I bet way less than 1/2 a degree.

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That's the info I was looking for. Common sense says there are negligible gains to be had.

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These spacers were all the rage years ago. But when everyone over time ended up having issues with boost leaks etc. everyone ditched them. I guess they still get sold to suckers who don't know any better, but really, they do nothing. Like Jet said, the air doesn't spend enough time in the IM to make a difference in IAT's.

If a crappy intercooler can't make a big difference with temperatures, how is an open void with no turbulence going to have an effect?

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My spacer was warped to shit, it looked like it was almost melted. The gasket was bad but that didnt correct all of the problems, The car still was idling like it had cams, so i did a boost leak check and sure enough i was leaking mass amounts of air through the throttle body. so i pulled the piping off and checked it out, somehow, (i seriously have no idea) i forgot to put in the front bottom corner bolt on the throttle body. So there was a nice hole directly into the intake plenum. So i put in a bolt, sealed and tightened it and started the car up and it idled like a dream and the WB was actually reading 15.0 FINALLY!
So next week ill be back at GTPro doing some more tuning.

As for RRE, yeah they are sometimes good guys. I havent had a problem with a lot of them.
Halon, thats great that you get deals if you keep buying from them. but chances are that the prices you pay after buying a crap load of stuff is about the same prices at any other shop. I think ill stick to GTPro.

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I have my spacer so I can touch the manifold for quick plug changes if needed.
Plus it added a bit of runner length that I needed back after modifying the upper plenum :).

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Scot Grey knows his shit, I've talked to him a few times in the past.

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No doubt. I emailed him a couple weeks ago and he said he could do a street tune for me but he was out of the country until Thanksgiving.

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He's also got detailed information on what his car does 0-60, 0-100, 0-160 and top speeds. He had a nice website with all of that, don't know if he still has that or not.

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www.dsmporn.com
Prolly a little outdated. maybe.

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Cool site!

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Here comes take 2. Tonight we will see what my baby puts out.
All boost leaks checked, Cams Installed finally, 91 pump to start, Timing checked, spark plugs checked, new oil and filter.
i think we are ready.

Anyone wanna make guesses as to how much she will put out? i will be doing tunes on race and pump.
Engine:
Evo3 Metal Head Gasket
Pruven Performance Head with 5 Angle Valve port.
2G Pistons 8.5:1
HKS Valve Springs
Ferrea Valves
CompCams 101200 cams.
NGK BPR7ES Spark Plugs
MSD 8.5mm plug wires
Drivetrain and Transmission:
Symborski shifter set.
Prothane Linkage bushings
Prothane Motor Mounts
Southbend DXD 6 puck Dual Friction Clutch
slotted brake rotors with SS braided lines
SS Braided Clutch line, eliminated clutch booster.
Turbo and Intake:
PTE SCM6152E
Tial 38mm External Wastegate
31x12x4" FMIC
HKS VBC (not installed)
Magnus Sheet metal Intake Manifold
2.5" Intercooler Piping upper and lower, By me.
Greddy Type S BOV
Greddy Turbo Timer W/Harness
Vibrant Performance Air Filter
Exhaust:
Ported Exhaust Manifold
2.5" to flex, 3" to high flow cat and 4" to muffler
Fuel and Engine Management:
DSMLink Fuel Management System
AEM UEGO Wideband O2 Sensor
Magnus Fuel Rail
Mesa Hose 10AN SS Braided Fuel Lines
Fuelab 525 FPR
Walboro 255HP Rewired Fuel Pump
950cc Injectors
Wheels and Tires:
Eagle Alloys Rims Painted black
Guages:
Oil Pressure
AEM Wideband O2
Autometer Boost -30-0-30
Other Stuff:
Relocated Battery to Trunk
Large Fire Extinguisher in trunk
Sony Xplod radio that cuts out like a POS.
Infinity Reference front speakers.

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Dynojet AWD, so probably 370 awhp on pump and 440 on race gas.

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280 on pump :)

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Yeah sorry, its a DynoJet AWD Dyno.
And 280... come on give me more credit then that. My GST did 314 on a dynojet, with the 50 trim and 680cc injectors.

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875

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400:)