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ExTREME 08-16-2007 03:48 PM

FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
God damnit, I find out this thing comes out after I planned on going e316g/e85 on 850cc FIC's.

Sounds like a good deal though, cheap as hell and big as hell for the price.

FP's Site


The FP18G6SL2 turbocharger is a good choice for those looking for more power than the Big 16G in a street turbo. The 18G is rated at 600cfm, thats enough airflow to hit 400whp. We use the 18g wheel over the Evo3 wheel due to the 18's better high boost performance. The 18g wheel maintains its compressor efficiency much better in the 22-28psi range than the EVO3 16g wheel can.

It bolts up just like a regular 16G, and spools quickly enough to be very streetable. The 18G compressor wheel is mated to a TD06SL2 turbine wheel, which gives it better performance at higher boost pressures than the TD05H turbine, while maintaining lower exhaust manifold back pressures. The turbine housing is cast preported and fitted with a 34mm flapper valve. It is a perfect match for the Evo III O2 housing, and has a redesigned wastegate passage to better control boost creep, however some short side radius-ing of the WG entry will be helpful if you really want to turn the boost down. The high-nickel material in this turbine housing is much less susceptible to cracking than the materials used in previous generation Mitsubishi 7cm2 turbine housings.

Our FP18G turbos are built in-house at Forced Performance by our skilled techs, so you know that you are getting a turbo that can stand up to the punishment you dish out.


Basically now, I may want to switch turbos. Add your 2 cents guys!

Kracka 08-16-2007 04:13 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Six years ago when I used to like the 18G people talked nothing but shit about them. Its about time they are catching on :D

crazy_skier 08-16-2007 04:53 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
well if I get another dsm and upgrade it, I may be doing this instead of a 30 or 35 series.... it sounds nice and would be a much funner turbo as I would like to start autocrossing

scheides 08-16-2007 05:20 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Well like FP says they perform better than 16g at higher boost levels. The thing I always heard about the 18g was 'spools like a 20G with the power of a 16G' which is true *if* its run at pump-gas levels, 18-20psi. 22-28psi i.e. E85 or race gas is another story I guess! For $700 looks like a really good deal!

Super Bleeder!! 08-16-2007 07:45 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Sounds like a pretty awesome street turbo.

SBR_240sx 08-17-2007 12:55 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
If your going to spend $ 700 on a bolt on turbo why not go with a bolt on 50 trim?

Super Bleeder!! 08-17-2007 02:16 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Because this one installs exactly like a 14b and probably flows the same amount of air as a fiddy.

Scrmegl 08-17-2007 04:50 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
So with pump gas and street use boost levels which one would be better, the 50 or the 18G-6SL2? If you needed to turn down the boost to about 18-20PSI would the 18G be running too far under its efficiency range to be a good street turbo?

Jakey 08-17-2007 05:18 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR_240sx (Post 205688)
If your going to spend $ 700 on a bolt on turbo why not go with a bolt on 50 trim?

If SBR sold FP products (per your website), I'm willing to bet that you would not have made that comment.

s1lence 08-24-2007 09:07 AM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
For the price thats hard not to consider for a straight bolt-on.

JET 08-24-2007 12:51 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
A 50 trim flows slightly more than a 20g, so this is not going to flow the same as a 50 trim. Hopefully the new exhaust wheel helps cure some of the problems the 18g used to have. The 50 trim is also going to be much better at higher boost levels.

Goat Blower 08-24-2007 02:30 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Hmmm, wonder if they'll take a hurt 3575 on trade? I was just about to buy a E16G, guess not.

ExTREME 08-31-2007 10:22 AM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Anyone have anything to say on whether or not 850's will run efficently with this turbo and e85:usa1:?


I bought the 850's planning to do e85:usa1: on a e3 16G, as well as buying the Bullseye hotside for ~$210.

Well that would be 550+210=760. When this 18g runs around 699.00. I guess I'll get to reading, but was wondering if anyone thinks I should up the anny in the injector department?

*WILL 850's on e85:usa1: RUN EFFICIENTLY ON THIS FP18G!?* :usa1:

xveganxcowboyx 08-31-2007 10:29 AM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
I'd love to see how it does on pump.

ExTREME 08-31-2007 10:33 AM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
$717.69 (18G)

$720 (e316g)


I Just checked and found I could save 3 dollars!

I am not looking for a pure drag car. Street/strip.

asshanson 08-31-2007 12:10 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
I think 850 would be enough. If you figure 35% more fuel for e85, that would be like running 630cc injectors on regular pump, which should be enough for the 18g.

gofastman 08-31-2007 12:18 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slowboy (Post 207369)
I think 850 would be enough. If you figure 35% more fuel for e85, that would be like running 630cc injectors on regular pump, which should be enough for the 18g.

http://rceng.com/technical.aspx?User...e3yi9IDInXFBP3
BSFC is around .77 (.75-.80) for E85

Goat Blower 08-31-2007 12:42 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Yeah, I ran 550's with my 20G with no problems. You're well covered with 850's.

scheides 08-31-2007 01:38 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Yup yup, no problemo, you are good to go with 850's.

ExTREME 08-31-2007 03:46 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Good deal! Thanks guys! I'll probably look into it a bit more vs. the e316g but I plan on getting something soon, after I come grab that SB from ya GoatBlower.

User Name 10-16-2007 06:56 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
NTDSM18G6SL2 DSM 18G-6SL2 Turbo Total: $717.69

This message was sent to you at the request of Forced Performance to notify you that the package information below has been transmitted to UPS.


:nod:

18G on the way. Can't wait to get this thing going!

Comin' with all the gaskets too! Plus 4 billion for FP!

-SA

scheides 10-16-2007 07:24 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Awesome, any chance it will be here by saturday? :D

User Name 10-17-2007 03:17 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Negative. Ask GoatBlower on that one. :biggrin:
Just kiddin', Steve's got my little stocker rebuild 6bolt.

I still have a few things to get on it and I'm hoping for mid 300whp's.
I don't know what to expect on it though. Guess I'm trying e85 out of 850's w/DSMLink on the 18G/FMIC.

I'll for sure bring it down to the TC area and get it Dyno'd when its together.

awd-drifter 10-29-2007 05:34 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by User Name (Post 212892)
NTDSM18G6SL2 DSM 18G-6SL2 Turbo Total: $717.69

This message was sent to you at the request of Forced Performance to notify you that the package information below has been transmitted to UPS.


:nod:

18G on the way. Can't wait to get this thing going!

Comin' with all the gaskets too! Plus 4 billion for FP!

-SA


tell us how it is when you get it installed dude! im also plannning to get this turbo next year with some 272's!

User Name 10-29-2007 06:57 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
It's mounted on my FP Race Manifold right now, looks pretty decent. Maybe I'll get some pics up soon here.

I am hoping to get some cams to run with it as well, probably some FP2's for the sake of not being a total parts-whore. I like to keep with one manufacturer and FP seems to do some pretty damn nice work! (And yes, I know about the comp cams/FP cams. ;)

Right now I'm just waiting on my short block to get here and a few other things, like FMIC, Fuel Lab AFPR, and then I need to bring it down to a shop and have them resurface the head for the Cometic, etc... and get it dyno-tuned.

As for the looks of the turbo, it isn't that much, if at all, bigger than my 14b..

I don't know if I'm going to regret going with this turbo or not. I figured I'd start small and learn to tune w/ dsmlink and move up to a 50trim+.

crazy_skier 10-29-2007 10:04 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
when you do decide to move up, I would suggest bypassing the 50 trim all together since you would be doing yourself a favor and saving money by purchasing the spender, larger turbo at the time of the 50

User Name 10-30-2007 03:57 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
^Yeah. I am not sure on which I would go with. That's next fall's project. I want to stick with e85, so that's already money for 1600's, fuel pump/s, etc...

And a built block...

I'm thinking somewhere along the lines of Ball Bearing and bigger than my head.

awd-drifter 11-12-2007 02:27 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
j/w if you got any pics up yet of the 18g. :) :) :)

turbotalon1g 12-08-2007 08:45 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Pics coming soon.

scheides 12-10-2007 06:36 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Brownman going back to an OEM turbo?! Awesome man! Any chance for some cams in the mix as well?

turbotalon1g 12-10-2007 06:54 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
Bad news, apparantly they dont take AMEX, so i will probably just sit tight on this turbo.
I have 272s on the way.
If i ever have problems with this turbo i will not be holding my breath to go to a 20G or 18g mitsu turbo.
I wish there was a advance to career card in life like the advance to go card in monopoly.

scheides 12-10-2007 09:37 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
There is, it's a book called the Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey. Buy it, or listen to his podcast.

turbotalon1g 12-10-2007 10:25 PM

Re: FP's NEW 18G-6SL2 Turbo
 
thanks, is it gonna say, shoot shoot yourself and thx for the oxygen?


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