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Jakey 02-10-2004 12:57 AM

Well with the Spring season peeking its head around the corner rather quickly, street racing will probably begin to show up as more disscussed topic again. I've never been one to really promote or oppose street racing, but with the horror stories of street racing showing up and more and more, I'm definitely starting to rethink any sort of support I've ever had for street racing. Especially after my latest reading......Looky

Matt D. 02-10-2004 02:32 AM

Makes me sad to even think I've attended street races...

Please think fifty times, not twice, before racing on city streets.

Emcee gsxtc 02-10-2004 08:14 AM

Fuckin punks, I have been a street racer since before I could drive, watchin my buddies tinker with their hondas trying to get a little more horse, but unlike some people we have 'moral rules'

We race late at night, in the country, most often on abandoned roads, or roads by my friends houses where we can block it off. There are reasons, you dont just start racing in the middle of town, espescially it raises attention and is more dangerous than any of us care to risk. Again its the few that will ruin it for everyone else. If I was that guy, those two would be toast. If she comes out of it anything less than perfect, you would find me going down the street with a flamethrower until I found them. I hope he makes them pay.

john 02-10-2004 10:23 AM

Has anyone heard of any local (Minnesota) street racing accidents?

Sleep-ez 02-10-2004 10:33 AM

down here in missouri there are a lot of crotch rocket accedents, street racing has kind of died down here. our track is open three days a week, so no one feels the need to do it. and im talking about fast cars, the hondas still race but they never get to the speed limit before the next light anyways.

1ViciousGSX 02-10-2004 11:20 AM

Use your heads, it's not worth it. I've been into performance cars, wether building or racing them since I could drive and I have rarely ever raced anybody on the street. But unlike Raptor, I didn't have to start out on the Model T ;) . The few times I had street raced, we were out in an isolated area on a long country road with no cross roads at 3:00 in the morning. But in a crowded city area it's just :slap: "STUPID" :slap: . These days are hard on the street scene because of the stupidity people have in regards to other peoples safety. That's why law enforcement is cracking down on it. Take it to the track and play it safe. The few dollars it cost to get into the track are alot less than the fines, towing, impound, lawyer fees, etc. you will pay if you get caught. Hell if you are racing for money, make the looser pay the entrance fee ;) .

FattyBoomBatty 02-10-2004 11:20 AM

her car isn't even damaged that much, i've seen worse accidents where the people walked away. was she wearing a seatbelt? if she wasn't then i don't feel sorry for her, it's her own fault for nosing out into a yellow light anyway.

but it does suck to get hurt, so i gotta recognize.

Jacek 02-10-2004 11:42 AM

yeah that is why i dont street race and people in winona didnt disrespect me for that because me jake dsmstyle dsmchick and a few others remember how close a friend of ours in his car went off the road and was exremely lucky. plus here in winona last year two people took it into their own hands to do a street race near the town and one person was killed because of their accident.

1ViciousGSX 02-10-2004 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Conquests are better@Feb 10 2004, 10:20 AM
it's her own fault for nosing out into a yellow light anyway.


Read it again, he said the racers ran a red light trying to beat the yellow.

Jana 02-10-2004 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by 92tsiawd84@Feb 10 2004, 09:23 AM
Has anyone heard of any local (Minnesota) street racing accidents?
Quite a few actually, and most have caused deaths.

AJ 02-10-2004 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by Emcee gsxtc@Feb 10 2004, 07:14 AM


We race late at night, in the country, most often on abandoned roads, or roads by my friends houses where we can block it off.

Been there, done that. It didn't matter where I was I almost killed about 20 people when I lost my brakes. I'm not telling the story again, but point is I don't condone it. And I won't allow it in public view on this site. I don't race nor will I put time into even watching them anymore. It's not safe, People have died at the track in a controlled enviroment. If you think at any point a controlled state on the street is ever safe, you need to think again.

FattyBoomBatty 02-10-2004 01:32 PM

you can choose to not race on the street or track, and you will live longer, most likely. but anything that involves high horsepower and a contest of some sort, there are eventually going to be injuries or deaths. and people are drawn to contests so it's basically inevitable. i think the whole blocking off a country road thing is a great idea, i love racing, but i love to keep myself and others safe, that's why i know what my car can do and i don't try to push it.

i spose now i do have to push it cause the motor's broken. :stick:

Raptor 02-10-2004 09:24 PM

This is definately a sad story, I hope she recovers and the morons get what they have coming. I won't go into a big debate on street racing again, everyone has there own opinions and experiences to back up there own feelings on the subject, trying to change it either direction is a somewhat futile effort. The fact is, most of the guys I know that dislike street racing will be the first to tell some street war story and just as quick to jump in a vehicle when they are under the influence or not stop someone who is. You can get killed anywhere and you can be stupid anywhere, the trick is to make sure that wherever you are and whatever you are doing, you only put yourself and others who want to be there at risks that are acceptable to you and them. Anything else is just stupid, that goes for the track, street, bikes, boats or otherwise and yes even drifting in the snow.

And Vicious, model T's rule!

john 02-10-2004 09:49 PM

If you race for money, you cannot race at the track. One 12 second pass will kill off your races for the rest of the year. No more easy money. Unlike the other states, we have to drive an hour and forty five minutes to get to the closest track (MN). Not worth driving there for alot of the competition. If you were racing for money, would you want the buddy you beat at the track telling everyone in the city that your car is fast? I know I wouldn't.

npaulseth 02-10-2004 09:53 PM

I guess that I'd rather not kill or hurt someone, that to make some gas money off some punk who is no better than you. Some people need to get their egos in check before they get into a vehicle, and think that there car is actually more important than a living person.

john 02-10-2004 10:04 PM

Who said that their car is more important than a person? Not me. What is the point in modifying a car if you never use it? You have a 1g yourself right? Why did you buy it? Hopefully not because you think it is pretty. And we all know how reliable these cars are. We do not chose races in the middle of a busy city. Everything is late at night and in more isolated area. The only people there are people who want to be there. If I had my way, it would just be me and the other car at the site. Spectators suck.

Who said racing for gas money anyways? I have alot of time and money into my car and it is time it starts paying its own way. :blink:

1ViciousGSX 02-10-2004 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by 92tsiawd84@Feb 10 2004, 08:49 PM
If you were racing for money, would you want the buddy you beat at the track telling everyone in the city that your car is fast? I know I wouldn't.
I don't think it matters if it's at the track or on the street, if your car is fast, the word will get out about it.

npaulseth 02-10-2004 10:22 PM

Not trying to rip on you directly dude. I have street raced before. I just don't really think I will again unless I'm really not thinking. But dude, when I'm talking about street racing, I mean like down cedar ave, and 35w. If your on a closed isolated road, I don't really see the harm taking it up to like 100 or so.

AJ 02-10-2004 10:56 PM

You shoudl be doign this because you love the hobby. If you don't love it, it's not pure. I don't even own a car, I don't make any fucking money, but I love what I do. I love the site and the support for the site by close friend and friendly locals. I love my job, my shop, owned with my friends. It's working hard and showing somthing for it. It's not about the money. It's about doign what you love. Some people nickle and dime it and do it for all the wronf reasons. Some people do it cause they love it and pay the price to do it the way they really feel will show themselves through their car.

It's pride!

Halon 02-10-2004 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by 92tsiawd84@Feb 10 2004, 08:49 PM
Unlike the other states, we have to drive an hour and forty five minutes to get to the closest track (MN). Not worth driving there for alot of the competition.
closest tracks to me are 3 hours away. PIA, Firebird, and Carlsbad, all about 3 hours away. And because of that I used to street race a lot. One day the cops came, I luckily had one of the fastest cars out there, so I outran everyone else and the cops and got away. But after that, I decided no more street racing. We still have one abandoned road that we go to after we install something to quick test things out, but that's about as far as my street racing goes. I don't think street racing is a horrible horrible thing, as long as it's done some where isolated from anything else. But that's just my view, and it is a bummer what happened to that girl.

Iceman 02-10-2004 11:10 PM

Just a lil update for everyone. She turned out to be fine not counting some bumps and what nots. Nothin broken though.

Blk96Eclipse 02-10-2004 11:43 PM

I'll go to races but I won't race.

Shane@DBPerformance 02-10-2004 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 92tsiawd84@Feb 10 2004, 08:49 PM
If you race for money, you cannot race at the track. One 12 second pass will kill off your races for the rest of the year. No more easy money.
That's not even close to true unless your racing some slow cars. There are all kinds of 12 second and faster cars out there to run and the new dumbasses who would have had Hondas 3 years ago and now have WRXs and EVOs who think they have the fastest shit on the planet, but have never been to the track. Half the guys out there still see a pos 1G DSM and have no idea they are about to get waxed.

CVD 02-11-2004 12:27 AM

Racing for money. Works great....in theory.


:bs:

Raptor 02-11-2004 01:15 AM

$7 :woowoo:

Matt D. 02-11-2004 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by Raptor@Feb 11 2004, 12:15 AM
$7 :woowoo:
ROFL!!! :lol:

john 02-11-2004 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by npaulseth@Feb 10 2004, 10:22 PM
Not trying to rip on you directly dude. I have street raced before. I just don't really think I will again unless I'm really not thinking. But dude, when I'm talking about street racing, I mean like down cedar ave, and 35w. If your on a closed isolated road, I don't really see the harm taking it up to like 100 or so.
still on teh street right? If so, I call it street racing. You would be stupid to race up a city road.

john 02-11-2004 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by ecoli@Feb 10 2004, 11:47 PM

That's not even close to true unless your racing some slow cars. There are all kinds of 12 second and faster cars out there to run and the new dumbasses who would have had Hondas 3 years ago and now have WRXs and EVOs who think they have the fastest shit on the planet, but have never been to the track. Half the guys out there still see a pos 1G DSM and have no idea they are about to get waxed.

I am talking about the same people. The WRX, EVO, mustang, and camaro owners who think that their car is the shit. 12 seconds was just an example. Although a 12 second car is pretty damn quick for the strret. Could probly beat 95% of the cars on the road. When racing for money, you look for the easy races. You don't walk strait up to the camaro pulling 900 whp and ask to race for $100 vs your dsm only having 300 whp. The goal is to race slow cars for money. Not a big risk of losing. From what I have seen, a mid 13's crx is GOD to the street racing honda fans.

Kracka 02-11-2004 12:30 PM

Has anyone here actually ever street-raced for money and come out with more than $5-10? I have been in the scene for over 4 years now and have seen ONE money race, and that was between CVD and some bitch-boy who lost and wouldn't pay up cuz he needed gas money...CVD ended up getting a whole $5 out of the deal.

Shane@DBPerformance 02-11-2004 12:55 PM

Nope and if you piss off the wrong people when you beat them you might end up getting shot.

JiN 02-11-2004 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by TalonTSiDude@Feb 11 2004, 11:30 AM
Has anyone here actually ever street-raced for money and come out with more than $5-10?  I have been in the scene for over 4 years now and have seen ONE money race, and that was between CVD and some bitch-boy who lost and wouldn't pay up cuz he needed gas money...CVD ended up getting a whole $5 out of the deal.
Actually I've raced for money. Not too outragous, but well over $15 or whatever. I've street raced, the only times I've ever done it on a live street we never tried to run or beat a yellow/red light. I usually just race to the next stop light or whatever, just to goof a little bit. The only time we do some serious racing is when the streets are blocked off, ass late at night, and the spectators are either behind the cars, the sides of the cars when they launch, or way down the road to see who won. Out of all the times that I have street raced and watched street racing, no one has been hurt. The only people in harms way would be the racers at the time.

As for the girl, I feel bad for her that she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. And its good to hear that she's ok. But I also strongly agree with what Mike was saying. That could of been a drunk driver or someone just being stupid. I wonder if they still would be trying to leave the scene still? Also, fyi cuz this is sorta bothering me, he photoshopped that pic of his girlfriend. I dunno, that was just irritating me....

slowbubblecar 02-11-2004 02:08 PM

I do some racing but I am not like the stupid people downtown who cut people off weave through traffic while racing through the Lowry tunnel.

npaulseth 02-11-2004 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by ecoli@Feb 11 2004, 11:55 AM
Nope and if you piss off the wrong people when you beat them you might end up getting shot.
If you beat the wrong people, you get dragged out of your car, beat up, and your car gets trashed. Worth it?

1ViciousGSX 02-11-2004 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by npaulseth+Feb 11 2004, 01:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (npaulseth @ Feb 11 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ecoli@Feb 11 2004, 11:55 AM
Nope and if you piss off the wrong people when you beat them you might end up getting shot.
If you beet the wrong people, you get dragged out of your car, beat up, and your car gets trashed. Worth it? [/b][/quote]
You guy been watching too much FnF or something?!?!?!?!? ;)

npaulseth 02-11-2004 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by npaulseth@Feb 11 2004, 01:26 PM
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@Feb 11 2004, 11:55 AM
Nope and if you piss off the wrong people when you beat them you might end up getting shot.


If you beet the wrong people, you get dragged out of your car, beat up, and your car gets trashed. Worth it?

You guy been watching too much FnF or something?!?!?!?!? ;) [/b][/quote]
Ha, no.. sadly. I believe that happened either in St. Paul, or Eagan. I forget, doesn't really matter. Some guy beat a guy in a CRX I think, and his "kr3w" beat him up and trashed his car after.

JiN 02-11-2004 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by npaulseth@Feb 11 2004, 01:26 PM
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@Feb 11 2004, 11:55 AM
Nope and if you piss off the wrong people when you beat them you might end up getting shot.


If you beet the wrong people, you get dragged out of your car, beat up, and your car gets trashed. Worth it?

You guy been watching too much FnF or something?!?!?!?!? ;) [/b][/quote]
So true so true Mike. LoL. Look, if you bet big or slips or something, then dont pay up, yeh, you may get that asswhooped. And serves you right for talking shit in my opinion. And if you heard one story about how someone did something, and think that's how it is, your a goof ball. What if I kicked your ass or something? Would you go tell everyone or would everyone start saying..."OMG, dont go on any forums anymore!! If you post they'll fuck you up." No.

npaulseth 02-11-2004 02:51 PM

I didn't say it happened all the time, just that it does.

On a side note, I haven't seen anyone say "good ball" for a while, and that made me laugh :D

"He's all hopped up on goof balls"

CVD 02-11-2004 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TalonTSiDude@Feb 11 2004, 11:30 AM
Has anyone here actually ever street-raced for money and come out with more than $5-10? I have been in the scene for over 4 years now and have seen ONE money race, and that was between CVD and some bitch-boy who lost and wouldn't pay up cuz he needed gas money...CVD ended up getting a whole $5 out of the deal.
My running total is currently an amazing $25 :dsmrule:


Attempts at money races - a lot
Actual money races - 2 :woowoo:


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