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HiImBrian 05-30-2007 11:16 AM

MBC lines
 
Latley I have not been able to hit full boost. I should be at 21psi but I'm gettings stopped at 16-17psi. I am going to do a boost leak test tonight when I can borrow my buddies air compressor, but I thought I'd check all my lines first. Is there anyway I'm running off my 1 bar wg spring? Are these lines ran correctly or is there a different way to run them all? Thanks

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98...0/mbclines.jpg

Kracka 05-30-2007 11:34 AM

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Your routing looks correct.

HiImBrian 05-30-2007 11:41 AM

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Is there any other way of routing it? I thought a friend of mine told me a while ago that I could just connect a few lines together or run my mbc to my turbo or something.

asshanson 05-30-2007 11:46 AM

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My turbo has a place to hook up the vacuum line for the pressure source. I have like 4" of hose on either side of my boost controller, it sits only a few inches away from the turbo and wastegate.

HiImBrian 05-30-2007 11:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slowboy (Post 194787)
My turbo has a place to hook up the vacuum line for the pressure source. I have like 4" of hose on either side of my boost controller, it sits only a few inches away from the turbo and wastegate.

That's what I'm thinkin about. Where do all your lines run to then? My nipple on the turbo is tied off (like that when I baught it) so if I were to use that as my pressure source, how would I run the rest of the lines? And is there any benifit to running the lines off the turbo?

asshanson 05-30-2007 11:54 AM

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Here is what mine looks like. I believe the benefits are less boost spike, maybe some other things too that I can't remember.

Then for the BOV just run a line straight to the intake mani.

Pushit2.0 05-30-2007 11:56 AM

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Clean your mbc out, running off the compressor housing will allow the lowest boost possible. Most people run the line off the intake manifold like you have it now.

~John

A//// Guy 05-30-2007 12:15 PM

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I used to run one pressure source for both the BOV and wastgate but was having some issues with my MBC also holding boost. I ran them independently and that fixed the problems.

HiImBrian 05-30-2007 12:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by M/// Guy (Post 194800)
I used to run one pressure source for both the BOV and wastgate but was having some issues with my MBC also holding boost. I ran them independently and that fixed the problems.

Awesome, I'll go buy some new lines and switch them around and see if that fixes the problem.

HiImBrian 05-30-2007 01:07 PM

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Fixed it! I ran the bov to the intake mani and the mbc to the wg and to the turbo. Thanks slowboy! I actually had more than enough line the way it was so I just switched em and now she bangs nicely.

asshanson 05-30-2007 01:48 PM

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Glad to hear it works now.

HiImBrian 05-30-2007 01:56 PM

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Yea thats gotta be one of the quickest threads ever. Post a thread with a question and have you answer in 5 mins and car fixed in 10. haha shit we never even hit page two.

And btw your pic was backwards. The bottom of the mbc goes to the wg, just if you wanted to know for sure. Thanks again

asshanson 05-30-2007 02:11 PM

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EDIT: I am dumb.

turbotalon1g 05-30-2007 02:16 PM

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GOt a feeling that ass-hanson knew what was going on with his car before he started typing.

gstjoker 05-30-2007 04:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX (Post 194846)
Yea thats gotta be one of the quickest threads ever. Post a thread with a question and have you answer in 5 mins and car fixed in 10. haha shit we never even hit page two.

And btw your pic was backwards. The bottom of the mbc goes to the wg, just if you wanted to know for sure. Thanks again


I don't mean to steal your thread but recently after a new bov install, I've been getting some problems with my mbc also and I've been reading around on different more accurate ways to hook it up. Does the bottom of the mbc always go to the wastegate? The way I have mine hooked up right now is the bottom one goes to a boost source nipple off a pipe from my j-pipe. Then the other one that's located on the side of the mbc to the wastegate. Again, sorry, I don't mean to steal your thread.

asshanson 05-30-2007 04:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gstjoker (Post 194890)
Does the bottom of the mbc always go to the wastegate?

EDIT: My TurboXS standard boost controller is opposite of most of the MBCs out there. The instructions tell you specifically to connect the bottom output to the wastegate.

But the buscher one I have on my car right now is normal, with the side going to the wastegate.

gstjoker 05-30-2007 04:49 PM

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Okay, mine is just some home made model. I bought it from someone from this forum a long time ago. Forgot his username but he was a more older guy that lives in Coon Rapids I think. I guess you get what you pay for.

HiImBrian 05-30-2007 04:50 PM

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Again, slowbody is right on the money. What kind of mbc do you have? I have a joe p and the bottom goes to the wg and the top/side to the turbo. I am not familiar with hooking up a mbc to the j-pipe though. Normally they are hooked up like the top pic or like previously stated.

And don't worry about stealing my thread. I'm done with it haha. You can have it now lol.

gstjoker 05-30-2007 04:56 PM

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Looks like we replied at the same time but yes, mine is a home made model. Looks like something you can buy from Menards and put it together. It worked great before when I had it with my T25, and now with my E3 16g. It just suddenly went crazy after changing the 1g bov to a hks ssqv bov.

HiImBrian 05-30-2007 04:57 PM

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This is where my lines are ran now. Idk if that will help or not but I thought I'd post it up.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98...mbclines-1.jpg

asshanson 05-30-2007 05:05 PM

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I don't think it would matter if it's hooked up to the J-pipe or the compressor housing, should be the same pressure either way. If the boost controller worked before, I'd say it was hooked up right and the problem is elsewhere.

Do you have the SSQV adjustment screw too far in so that it's leaking at higher boost levels? Is the BOV vacuum line still hooked up right?

What do you mean by it started going crazy? Won't hold boost/fades? Or doesn't limit boost and goes past 25 every time?

If it doesn't hold boost, could be a leaking problem with the SSQV. If it doesn't limit boost, the MBC could have broken, coincidentally at the same time as the BOV change.

Pushit2.0 05-30-2007 09:09 PM

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Mr98 your MBC is hooked up wrong(based on pic #20 in this thread). On a ball and spring MBC you need to have your pressure sorce in-line with your ball and spring, so a joe p style (what mr98 has) would have the boost sorce go into the bottom, in line with the ball and spring, the pressure then pusses the ball out of the way and goes out the side and to the waste gate. The Turbo XS the ball and spring are mounted on the side and the bleader is on the top with the waste gate line going out the bottom.

~John

HiImBrian 05-30-2007 09:23 PM

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So how is it working?

HiImBrian 05-30-2007 09:27 PM

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Is this right?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98...untitled-1.jpg

Pushit2.0 05-31-2007 12:07 AM

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Yes, so the pic in post #20 was wrong then.

~John

asshanson 05-31-2007 03:43 AM

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Yep, I just looked at mine, that's how it's hooked up. John is correct.

Wow, looks like my first MS paint picture was correct, woot!

HiImBrian 05-31-2007 11:35 AM

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Man that blows! Those lines were hard as tits to get on and off. How come everything seems to be fine the way it is? Shouldn't there be a problem lol

crazy_skier 05-31-2007 11:02 PM

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It should only be running factory boost right now since it can push the ball out and then its w/g regularly.

HiImBrian 06-01-2007 12:38 PM

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Nope, I was running full boost-21psi. I switched it anyways and everything is still the same lol.

mdost03 06-01-2007 12:53 PM

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Pushit is correct. Side port goes to the wastegate and bottom port goes to the pressure source (turbo, intake manifold, etc.)

crazy_skier 06-02-2007 12:28 AM

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weird.... maybe your boost controller is possesed????? idk

HiImBrian 06-02-2007 02:40 AM

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I think my car is just amazing and doesn't know how to break. Knock on wood!

asshanson 06-02-2007 11:13 AM

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You get your links on yet?

HiImBrian 06-02-2007 12:12 PM

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The end links? No, I've got ss brake lines, new springs, break pads, and those goin on the 23rd

driftn1g 06-15-2007 12:33 PM

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i was hooked up threw the bov line with 2-3 psi spike.. now im hooked up to the j-pipe and wastegate and spiking like 1..


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