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123abc 05-09-2007 11:35 AM

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I'm sick of my car. I dropped 2k on a motor rebuild and it runs like shit, the exhaust cost me 400 dollars and it's an inch off the ground (Was going to get it fixed, but jake never called me...wtf?), I think I fried the ECU while adjusting the BISS screw, I see oil around the headgasket. This is my only car, I'm almost out of highschool...


I want to sell it but I know I won't even get 2500 out of the piece of shit. Right now I'm thinkin about taking insurance off it, buying a cheap ass beater and let the stupid thing sit untill I feel like ripping it all apart and going through the whole car.

DoughtCom 05-09-2007 11:40 AM

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Dsm Ftw!

Kracka 05-09-2007 11:47 AM

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Welcome to DSM's, sorry for your troubles.

tpunx99GSX 05-09-2007 11:57 AM

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How much research did you do before tearing the car apart in the first place? The big thing with these cars is doing tons of research before you work on it, or else shit like this happens. Same thing happened with my timing belt. I fucked up and didnt ask anyone if the 6 bolt block and 7 bolt block had different ways of tensioning the belt. Well they do, the 6 bolt is bass ackwards (or the 7 bolt is) but the point is, i assumed it was the same, now i have 4 bent valves and a new head on the way. You cant assume anything with these cars.
Best of luck dude, but as long as you learn from your mistakes you will make it. just stick it out.

A//// Guy 05-09-2007 11:57 AM

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That sucks! Reminds me why I got out of dsms. haha

Onefast99gsx 05-09-2007 12:01 PM

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How can you fry the ECU by adjusting the BISS screw?

123abc 05-09-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Onefast99gsx (Post 190456)
How can you fry the ECU by adjusting the BISS screw?

You have to ground out two prongs to be able to adjust it.

I had Jake build my engine for that reason, tpunx.

tpunx99GSX 05-09-2007 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 123abc (Post 190462)
You have to ground out two prongs to be able to adjust it.

I had Jake build my engine for that reason, tpunx.

Did Jake do enough research? LOL jk

x-pride 05-09-2007 12:23 PM

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What year is your car?

HiImBrian 05-09-2007 12:47 PM

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Jake said he'd fix your exhaust so you don't need to vent about that. I don't know if you knew this but dsms are not the most reliable cars. It is normal that you need to "vent" every once in a while. Trust me everybody does it, they just don't post it on the forum. Shit I've wanted to sell my car like 413645 times but I don't because I could never get back the money or time I put into it. I told you right off the bat to sell your car and save yourself the money and stress. Go buy a civic


p.s. if this sounds really mean or like I'm attacking you, I'm not. Since this is the internet and you can't really see how somebody is saying something, just don't take any offense thanks!

JET 05-09-2007 01:00 PM

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DMS's aren't unreliable, it is that most of the people take shortcuts and don't do things the way they should be done. Do it right and they are a reliable car.

92EvilTalon 05-09-2007 01:10 PM

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Well if oil is showing up around the head then thats an easy fix. As for grounding two wires to adjust the BISS screw...when did that happen? All I did was take a screw driver and turned it until my idle was around 800rpms. Unless this is a new way of doing it? but anyways keep that head up high and fix it again. Sounds like you just have a small problem.

1slowdsm 05-09-2007 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX (Post 190520)
It is normal that you need to "vent" every once in a while. Trust me everybody does it, they just don't post it on the forum. Shit I've wanted to sell my car like 413645 times but I don't because I could never get back the money or time I put into it.

hahaha....yeah I've been tempted to sell my car a gazillion times too, but wont get back nearly what I put into it. You can either sell it now and take the losses or keep it and learn from ur mistakes. I'm keeping mine and dealing with the losses and doing things right this time around and maybe someday I'll love to drive my car like how I used to =P.

123abc 05-09-2007 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX (Post 190520)
Jake said he'd fix your exhaust so you don't need to vent about that. I don't know if you knew this but dsms are not the most reliable cars. It is normal that you need to "vent" every once in a while. Trust me everybody does it, they just don't post it on the forum. Shit I've wanted to sell my car like 413645 times but I don't because I could never get back the money or time I put into it. I told you right off the bat to sell your car and save yourself the money and stress. Go buy a civic


p.s. if this sounds really mean or like I'm attacking you, I'm not. Since this is the internet and you can't really see how somebody is saying something, just don't take any offense thanks!

Not smart to speak for Jake, as you don't know exactly what happened. The problem is, last night the check engine light came on after I adjusted the idle. It ran real rich all night, then this morning before school, it wouldn't start. It just keeps flooding itself. I remember various threads where that has happened and it turns out the ecu caps were leaking. I'll take a look today or tomorrow, but as of right now I hope to save up and get a cheap ass beater car. There's a 1.8 auto laser a friend has that'll sell me it for 300. We'll see.

123abc 05-09-2007 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JET (Post 190532)
DMS's aren't unreliable, it is that most of the people take shortcuts and don't do things the way they should be done. Do it right and they are a reliable car.

That's why I'm thinking about going completely through my whole car, because of the car's past.

A. It was a N/T 90 Laser with a 4g63t swapped in.
B. A redneck owned it.

Almost like a restoration, in a way. Just not going to do the body. I'll have to talk it over with my parents if I can use their garage.

JET 05-09-2007 02:07 PM

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The ECU caps have nothing to do with the BISS screw. I would say you might have trashed the O-ring on the BISS screw when you adjusted it.

123abc 05-09-2007 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JET (Post 190575)
The ECU caps have nothing to do with the BISS screw. I would say you might have trashed the O-ring on the BISS screw when you adjusted it.

That would cause it to flood itself?

JET 05-09-2007 03:34 PM

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It would suck in unmetered air and actually run lean and possibly die. Do you know for sure it is running rich? I would do a boost leak test, the BISS screw would show up on that if it is bad.

123abc 05-09-2007 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JET (Post 190620)
It would suck in unmetered air and actually run lean and possibly die. Do you know for sure it is running rich? I would do a boost leak test, the BISS screw would show up on that if it is bad.

It is running rich. I just got home and it fired right up, but she runs really rich. It also throws a CEL after about 1-2 minutes after starting it up. I check the ECU, it seems fine. When I rev it I can see the black soot on the pavement after my muffler.

With the way it's running I don't want to risk driving it anywhere. Another issue I have is that I can't find my data logger for the life of me.

ExTREME 05-09-2007 05:35 PM

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Just start taking out loans.

I bought my DSM with a trashed tranny, drove it until it grenaded, went to Wells Fargo, took out another loan on top of my existing car loan. Only went up 30 some bucks I pay $136.21/mo. for my $4k loan. So, take out $4k, send some money to Shep or TRE, send the other half to Steve Hill (SGH Enterprises) or whoever gives you a chubby on building engines, throw it in the turd and drive it.

Just don't half-ass shit and you'll be running like a reliable car. Or go out and buy a car/truck with an Industrial engine for reliability.

I've wanted to sell my car many times, but damn, thinking about how bad I could whoop on some v8's keeps me smiling and the title in my hand. Good things come to those who wait.

Or go buy a honda 1.5L and a fart cannon and throw in some asian font seat covers.

sleepy2lazy 05-09-2007 06:08 PM

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Sorry to hear about your problems. Your first problem was buying the car in the first place and thinking about doing a project with it. Your in high school, with little to no money. Should have bought a good running turbo model to begin with and just work from there.

But in the end, like every project, if you finish this, you will be incredibly happy. Plus I'm sure you've learned alot.

123abc 05-09-2007 06:23 PM

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When I "got" it, I had no idea what to look for on DSM's. Sort of followed after I got it. I just knew they could make insane amounts of power.

My parents got me it as a graduation gift, early. I wanted it as a driver, not a project. But ya know, it just turned into one.:)



I'm feeling a lot better about it. I'm going to let it sit and pick up a 90-91 1.8 auto laser my friend has for 300 bucks. The motor was replaced recently, and it hasn't been modified, just driven. What I really want is to strip down most of the car and replace mostly everything with new parts...bushings, hoses, lines, etc. That's what it really needs. It's all about space and money.

Goat Blower 05-09-2007 06:40 PM

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You always need a second car to own a DSM. They're plenty reliable if cared for properly, but the need to modify always means some down time.

HiImBrian 05-09-2007 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 190785)
You always need a second car to own a DSM. They're plenty reliable if cared for properly, but the need to modify always means some down time.

This is where it's nice to have parents and friends haha.


Also as I was driving home from ndsu today I was listening to "go getta" and I started thinking of this thread and singing "this is the like of a dsmerrr a dsmerrr." haha yea I know I don't have much excitement in my life.:toiletp:

EclipseGST 05-09-2007 09:27 PM

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I told you it would be either yesterday or Thursday which you OK'd as your days off... Shit came up last night and I never made it back to the shop. I know you want to take a look at the shit as well on the other car and I'm pressed for time as it is with that thing.

I will be at the shop all day tomorrow so when you get out of school, if the thing is ok, bring it out and it will be fixed. I have a spare 90 ECU so you can test that to see if its your issue.

I've been very busy lately with family shit and work, its not always easy to find time when we are both free, we have talked about this. A lot of the time, I'm free at 1-2am which is past your bed time and daddy wont let you come over. I told you I would fix it, and it will be fixed, just have to find time where we are both free.

Relax its a DSM. Get use to it.

BTW... The car wasnt a N/T to start... I spoke with the owner that put in a N/T tranny and he did it because the other tranny was shot and this was the only thing he had laying around. So be happy its a turbo car! :)

123abc 05-09-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EclipseGST (Post 190854)
I told you it would be either yesterday or Thursday which you OK'd as your days off... Shit came up last night and I never made it back to the shop. I know you want to take a look at the shit as well on the other car and I'm pressed for time as it is with that thing.

I will be at the shop all day tomorrow so when you get out of school, if the thing is ok, bring it out and it will be fixed. I have a spare 90 ECU so you can test that to see if its your issue.

I've been very busy lately with family shit and work, its not always easy to find time when we are both free, we have talked about this. A lot of the time, I'm free at 1-2am which is past your bed time and daddy wont let you come over. I told you I would fix it, and it will be fixed, just have to find time where we are both free.

Relax its a DSM. Get use to it.

BTW... The car wasnt a N/T to start... I spoke with the owner that put in a N/T tranny and he did it because the other tranny was shot and this was the only thing he had laying around. So be happy its a turbo car! :)

Maybe a different time. I'm letting it sit so I can take a little break from it. I'll look at what's wrong this weekend.

If shit came up, a simple text message or phone call would've sufficed. But meh.

You know the guy who put in the N/T tranny? Does he have AIM or somethin?


Also, does anyone know what could've possibly caused it to throw a CEL and run very rich from grounding out the two prongs as the VFaq shows? That has to be it, as it's never thrown a CEL before I did that.

EclipseGST 05-09-2007 11:09 PM

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Sorry, it got late quick and slipped my mind until you were already sleepin probably.

The guys is from LAX. No AIM, just know him from dsm's and through a few friends. He sold it to another guy and I guess that is the guy who painted the rear window and did everything else to it. The guy you bought it from. The hood was on there when the guy I know had it though.

123abc 05-09-2007 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EclipseGST (Post 190903)
Sorry, it got late quick and slipped my mind until you were already sleepin probably.

The guys is from LAX. No AIM, just know him from dsm's and through a few friends. He sold it to another guy and I guess that is the guy who painted the rear window and did everything else to it. The guy you bought it from. The hood was on there when the guy I know had it though.

Yea. The guy who I bought it from really trashed the car. Painted the rear window, put on over-sized tires, fucked up the door panels, gauges, handbrake was ripped off, springs were cut stupidly low, BOV was un-circulated, etc.

HiImBrian 05-09-2007 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 123abc (Post 190907)
Yea. The guy who I bought it from really trashed the car. Painted the rear window, put on over-sized tires, fucked up the door panels, gauges, handbrake was ripped off, springs were cut stupidly low, BOV was un-circulated, etc.

Usually those are the kinda dsms people buy for parts cars. Buying a dsm with problems is like having sex with a chick that has aids. No matter how cheap it is, it's never worth it. :1smiley.php:

123abc 05-09-2007 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX (Post 190910)
Usually those are the kinda dsms people buy for parts cars. Buying a dsm with problems is like having sex with a chick that has aids. No matter how cheap it is, it's never worth it. :1smiley.php:

When I bought it, it was running and driving...and to me it was running good.



Of course, like I said, I didn't know shit about what to look for on dizzums.

123abc 05-10-2007 07:22 PM

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Finally found my data logger today after school. Hooked it up, and I'm not getting an o2 reading.

This weekend I'll look into the wiring of the o2 first, cause I highly doubt the o2 senser can go bad instantly for no reason. I did take a quick peak at it, and this is what I found:

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...10-07_1817.jpg

The bigger brown insolator has a sort of wire mesh covering two wires that go in it. I'm wondering if it's some sort of ground? The black wire on the bottom has a little slit in it, perhaps it was hooked up there? I'll be getting a manual finally tonight.


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