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eagle talon guy 03-17-2007 06:23 PM

where should i start with modding?
 
i have a 93 talon TSI AWD turbo, its pretty much stock, and i plan to mod it up this summer, but i dont know where to start!
any suggestions?!

AJ 03-17-2007 06:49 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
**moved, this should not be in the project thread with no project on hand**

eagle talon guy 03-17-2007 06:51 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Sorry, I thought this was the right place to post it.

HiImBrian 03-17-2007 07:16 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
42r with 1600ccs and aem. That is if your looking for 800whp. Care to elaborate and let us know what your goals are?

eagle talon guy 03-17-2007 07:24 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Well, I don't plan to get too much into racing, but I will probably race every once and a while.
This summer Iplan to do as amny free mods as possible, but i'm not quite sure where to start with them! I plan to do free mods this summer because they are easy, and I want to use this summer to work and get money so I can get things for my car.

tim 03-17-2007 07:33 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Here is a handy site for you to read. Lots of tips and tricks. See www.vfaq.com and start reading. You can also look at Buschur's site or AMS or whoever and get an idea on what path to take.

It really all depends on what your HP goals are and/or how fast and reliable you want it to be.

eagle talon guy 03-17-2007 07:38 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Well, it's my first acr, and I really want it to last, because I love the car!
I have been to that website!

92EvilTalon 03-17-2007 10:26 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Thats the best site to start out on. Also dsm.org will help some. Even thou they have not updated in years. But like stated do you want to have a 13, 12, 11, or 10 sec DSM for this summer? Hp can be easy to have with the right mods. We plan to help but you need to tel us what you want out of the car.

turbotalon1g 03-17-2007 10:37 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Establish goals, search classic vendors for staged upgrades, search.
Vfaq.com is your friend.
Also what is an ACR? you stated its your first.

eagle talon guy 03-17-2007 10:37 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
I don't even really know! lol
Well, I really want to get good gas milage as well as a fast car!
I know you guys can't help me if I don't know wat I want, but yeah!
I guess I want a car that is raceable, but yet a good fuel efficient daily driver car, if that helps at all!

mdost03 03-18-2007 12:14 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
I would say 12-13 sec car would be what you are looking for then.

eagle talon guy 03-18-2007 12:21 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Well, if thats wat I just explained then thats what I want! lol
so how could I achieve this goal?! lol

HiImBrian 03-18-2007 12:42 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 181756)
Also what is an ACR? you stated its your first.

I think ACR is newb for CAR.

Also, I don't believe you have read vfaq at all. There is a nice little mods list to follow if you just looked. If you are looking to get hp and gas mileage put an intake and a fart can on your car and call it a day.

eagle talon guy 03-18-2007 01:04 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
lol, done!
all i have is exhaust and intake! lol
ive skimmed over v-faq, but this summer i actually plan to take the time to read it, actually, i think i have the mod list thing save to my favorites.

Kracka 03-18-2007 01:13 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Before you begin modding, make sure you are up to date on all your maintenance such as a timing belt job, all fluids changed, etc.

Now, are you interested in a car that goes fast in just a straight line or also around corners? Good basic power mods to start with are turbo-back exhaust, full intake, a boost controller, and a S-AFC.

eagle talon guy 03-18-2007 01:38 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
ya, my car is in the shop gettin the timing belt and shit changed right now! and I do plan to get a boost controller when I get more money!

Kracka 03-18-2007 01:40 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eagle talon guy (Post 181773)
ya, my car is in the shop gettin the timing belt and shit changed right now! and I do plan to get a boost controller when I get more money!

If you can't afford a $40 boost controller maybe modding a DSM isn't the smartest thing to do ;)

HiImBrian 03-18-2007 01:41 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S2kracka (Post 181774)
If you can't afford a $40 boost controller maybe modding a DSM isn't the smartest thing to do ;)

I was thinking that after his 1st post.

eagle talon guy 03-18-2007 01:45 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
well I can, but ya, cause like after it gets out of the shop, I will have about like $300 left over! but yeah, like I said, I do plan to buy one so yeah!

123abc 03-18-2007 01:47 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
I got mine for 10 bucks off ebay, works like a charm.

I say, just up the boost to 15 psi, and have fun. Should hold you over for the summer. Also, don't forget to slap in an aftermarket boost gauge before you think about messing with the boost levels. The stock one in the dash isn't accurate at all.

eagle talon guy 03-18-2007 01:51 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
yeah, i've heard that from like everybody! lol
so wher should I get it? so does it go in the dash, or does it have to go in like a pod?

HiImBrian 03-18-2007 02:11 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
READDDDDDDD! IF IT'S AN AFTERMARKET GAUGE IT PROBABLY GOES IN AN AFTERMARKET GAUGE POD! Just a thought though I guess.

btw, I'll sell you my autometer gauge for $15. It doesn't read perfect, but that shouldn't matter for you. If its cheap who cares right?!

scheides 03-18-2007 11:46 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Generally people mount the boost gauge on the A-pillar, to the left of the steering wheel. As far as bang for your buck goes, I'd do 5 things, in this order: K&N filter/cut stock air can, boost gauge, mbc (15psi), walbro 255hp fuel pump (now mbc@19-20psi), 3" turbo back exhaust.

If you shop around, you should be able to get that done for well under $1k and you'll have a fun DD on your hands. #1 rule is to NOT skimp on ANYTHING, as you will end up paying for it later.

Kracka 03-18-2007 11:48 AM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
I'd suggest a Walbro 190 fuel pump, that way you won't over-run the stock FPR.

sleepy2lazy 03-18-2007 12:01 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
If your clutch starts slippin, you might want to change it to an aftermarket one that can support your power. There's various brands out there that do the job with many different opinions from everyone on this site.

eagle talon guy 03-18-2007 01:38 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Well, my dad has told me that I am going to need a new clutch soon, but it's not too bad right now, I guess I will have to wait until it gets worse!
I already do have the K&N filter in it, I have an Apex-i N1 exhaust(not sure if it's 2.5" or 3" previous owner put it on), by the way, can you get pillars that you can have like only a single pod and eventually add another pod to it?

mdost03 03-18-2007 02:10 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eagle talon guy (Post 181809)
by the way, can you get pillars that you can have like only a single pod and eventually add another pod to it?

They make single pods that you can screw into your stock a-pillar trim piece. Also make a 2-pod piece that does the same thing. I would invest in an Oil pressure gauge, boost gauge and get a pillar piece with the 2 gauge pods from Lo-Tek. I have a 3-pod pillar replacement piece and it fits perfect and looks stock. Check out their website to see if they have an application for the 1g's. I think they do.

Their website is http://www.gaugepods.com

eagle talon guy 03-18-2007 02:19 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Does that black actually look good/match? Cause it looks like it's too light, maybe it isn't I don't know! I will keep looking, but I will keep those in mind! Thank you by the way!

Kracka 03-18-2007 05:38 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
That website has just about the best gauge pods you're going to find, they match the interior colors pretty well.

Do you have the Apexi downpipe to go with that catback?

eagle talon guy 03-18-2007 05:49 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Is $30 a good price for a 2 pod?

And yes, I do believe so, the exhaust was in it when i bought it, so im not completely sure! I plan to stop by the shop tomarrow to check up on it, and I will check it out while up on the lift, I plan to take a pic too!

DoughtCom 03-18-2007 06:09 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
$30 is about the best price you're going to find I believe.

There's a link to it off of vfaq but just in case you didn't see it... check this site out too.

http://members.shaw.ca/costall/1000Q/

It's a really good beginner site with a lot of general asked questions.

HiImBrian 03-18-2007 06:14 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
I'll sell u my dual pod for $10! It's carbon fiber too! pm me if your interested

eagle talon guy 03-18-2007 06:15 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Yeah, I got that site saved to my favorites too! lol my other DSM friends got me covered! lol

So $30 is a good price?

Kougar 03-18-2007 07:22 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eagle talon guy (Post 181829)
So $30 is a good price?


Quote:

Originally Posted by DoughtCom (Post 181827)
$30 is about the best price you're going to find I believe.

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eagle talon guy 03-18-2007 07:37 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Ugh. sorry! I guess the question I was trying to ask there was, can I find one cheaper but just like it on ebay or something?

I do have the money, but I would rather pay less money for the same thing if possible, that's why I'm asking!

scheides 03-18-2007 07:42 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
#2 Rule is do not buy anything car-related on ebay (unless you know what you're getting).

eagle talon guy 03-18-2007 07:46 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
That's where I got my headlights, is from a store on ebay!

Pushit2.0 03-18-2007 08:25 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
try a period at the end of a sentence. Come up with a budget and were you want the car to be down the road, then talk with a shop to see how fast you can go/how much power you can make with that amount of money.

~John
!!!!

turbotalon1g 03-18-2007 09:19 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
I got a dual pillar pod for $20

HiImBrian 03-18-2007 11:02 PM

Re: where should i start with modding?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eagle talon guy (Post 181841)
Ugh. sorry! I guess the question I was trying to ask there was, can I find one cheaper but just like it on ebay or something?

I do have the money, but I would rather pay less money for the same thing if possible, that's why I'm asking!

I still have one for $10


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