Which turbo would you guys prefer?
 

What turbo do you guys prefer?

My mods:


6-bolt motor swap w/
-arp hardware
-QPR EGR Block-off
-BS elim kit
-'90 oil filter housing
-small 16g
fmic
walboro 255
650cc injectors
polyeurethane motor mounts
ported 2g exhaust manifold
apexi n1 catback
Buschur TB elbow
2.5" downpipe, w/ dual 3" resonators, no cat
Apexi AFC-2 (getting DSMlink)
polished 1g rail with custom mounted FP gauge
10mm plug wires
RRE crankcase breather'/oil catch can
Joe P MBC
12" Fal high flow fan(pull)
10" SPAL High flow fan (push)
polished ebay strut bar


My goals 10-11 sec car. Its going to be mostly street driven and taken to the track not so often. Ive been looking and 20g's and 50 trims and ive heard good and bad about them but I just recently looked at the SCM-6152 and was kinda interested. Any imput is fine thanks.

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I would go with the SCM61. You would never have to upgrade again. If I were you, I would definately upgrade your downpipe to 3". Now I have a question for you, why are you running 3 fans?

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How many threads do you need to start to determine which turbo to get?

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You dont have to make a new thread every time you have a new question about a different turbo. Just FYI.
http://www.dsmstyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14443
http://www.dsmstyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14448
http://www.dsmstyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14413

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You need cams first. You won't get the full performance from the SCM61 without going to a sheetmetal intake and 3" downpipe also. And if you want the full performance of the 61mm compressor wheel in that turbo, then get a SC61 with a T3 exhaust housing, T3 exhaust manifold, an external wastegate, and a good O2 housing.

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Ecoli is right. Nobody said it was gunna be cheap. You cant just get a bigger turbo and expect it to get you into the 10s.

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ok cool thanks ecoli for the exhaust housing would .63 A/R better or .82 A/R be better? And for the compressor cover what is the difference from "E" and "S"

And your right M.98GSX nobody did say it was going to be cheap not even me?

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Why 3 fans?

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With the level of questions you're asking, you shouldn't be looking at anything larger then what you already have.

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Sorry, first posted fixed I have 2 fans.

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The S is a larger compressor cover, I have one on my SCM61, but it probably doesn't do much, the exhuast housing is the limiting factor. If you go with the SC61, then it would be more of a benefit. The .63 housing will be somewhat limiting, but the .82 housing will be laggier and flow better.

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OT but that car does have 3 fans; it's my old car & it had some overheating probs for a while & through the course of things it ended up w/ a double-pull 12" FAL and one 10" SPAL pusher. It will never overheat again now :D

Cams and a SMIM are going to be a must if you want to run low 11's. A gt35r or SC/SCM61 will be probably necessary to. If I still had that car it'd be getting all of the above, probably a bigger turbo tho.

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ok thanks haha

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Is the SCM6125 a good street turbo? or would the 20g be better for more street driving and racing?

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:google: :search:

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I have the 20g td06 and love it.

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No that one smells like rotten apples.

But the SCM6152S is a great street dsm turbo w/lag. SC61 with a stage 5 wheel. Good for 400+hp on pump on a 2.0 with proper tuning.

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Have you done any research at all?

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I vote no. Google is your friend dude

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:google: or :aikido:

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A 61 is going to be a fair amount laggier than a 20G.

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People have run 11s, even 10s with a 20g or smaller with other help. I think a 20g/50trim would be the turbo for him.

~John

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Pirate turbo FTW!!!!
GT35R was last year, this year is GT42R.
If your gonna be cool, then do it to it.

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Just because 3 guys down in Winona are running them, doesn't make it the choice of turbo for the season. Besides, I wouldn't say they're "cool." Lol. JK. Jake is a good guy.

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I actually wasn't referring to them, but at least we know who you are thinking about concerning cars.

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It's quite obvious everyone on this site is following their threads. I don't see anyone else thinking about running a GT-42R. Unless Swanny is. So I guess that justifies my statement. And yes, Jake has helped me when "concerning my car." More than everyone else on this site put together. And I know LSE has helped you with yours.

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If he can drive, just use a 14B. :D

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The gt42 has always been a popular turbo. We do have 2 cars currently with GT42's on them (or on order) that are near finish.

As well as 2 cars with slightly smaller singles (being worked on), 1 car that will have larger than a gt42 (long term project) and 2 cars with massive twins planned.

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Yo! This is a tech thread, not a pissing match!

gsxer, get yourself a 20G and see what it will do. If you can't pull 11's out of it then get something bigger and sell the 20G. It takes all of an hour or two to swap out a turbo, not that big of a deal to go bigger if you need to!

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Roll a pair of dice until you get 2 numbers which are available in a trim (ie- 50, 57, 60, etc.).

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Must be some funky dice down in Iowa! We don't have 7's or 0's on the ones in Minnesota :kissass:

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Well shit, I guess we're just unique. :whoo:

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Sorry, i was interrupted.
I say get something in a GT30 comp wheel and then its up to you on the other side.
SC 61, 3052, 3065. or equivalents for those turbo.
RST don't comment or make public judgements on what i say it just wastes space, plus no-one really gives a toss about it.
I have dealt with Jake also and he is a cool guy.
GSxer good luck, but plenty of research and late night will net you your answer.
I usually go with threads that have results and logs, not just estimates.
Also talking to guys like know, like the old guys here and shop owners.
Not people with just a stack of badass parts waiting to be fast.

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Although this tends to be the DSMer mentality, it probably isnt the way to go. If you cant run 11's with a 20G, the last thing you should be doing is going bigger.

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You are right, but I just don't see why you wouldn't want to just buy something that will get the car (eventually) to his target power goal. It looks as if he basically has what he needs to get there - I could be missing something as it's late. But again, what your statement is alluding to I agree with - if the car is capable for an 11 second pass, it's not the car, it's the person driving it.

:jackoff:

Consider this space wasted. I don't see why you'd "waste space" talking about a turbo above and beyond (and the some) of his goal. But hey, you're a gopher at a local shop, your opinion must be valued. Your original post was useless. Just don't do it again. I hate stupidity, especially in the tech section. I will make public judgements/comments when there is truth behind it. It's obvious which side of the fence I'm on when push comes to shove - I'll just put that out there so you don't have to question it ever again.

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Seriously, is it just fucking impossible to not go into personal attacks in tech threads? I don't care who does it anymore, I'm going to start banning people for a day here and there if they can't keep useless shit out of the tech areas.

A good point was also made, if the same thread is made 80 trillion times I'll ban that person for a day as well.

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I vote 20G. Loved mine.

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Not gonna lie, when noobish questions like this come up that are easily searchable and has been gone over many times before, and makes more than one thread w/ the same question, there's bound to be some banter and bashing. It doesn't help when latley it seems like everyone is bleeding out of their vag's. Just my thoughts though, don't ban me :tongue:

On to something on topic...... For the amount of information you seem to have on turbos, and even your car in general, I think you need to do some more research on your own first before you size a turbo for your car (or ask everyone else to do it for you). Look at other people's set ups, check out tuning software, see what a new turbo actually takes to be ran correctly without toasting your engine, and for god's sake, use the search function and google. There's no need to re-invent the wheel here. If it's a DSM, it's been done, so I'd suggest checking out setups of other guys that are running the times you are looking for