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chickensoup 01-04-2007 09:32 PM

AEM EMS????? DSMlink????
 
well i was jus wonderin which one will be the best bang for the buck, and least trouble

Kracka 01-04-2007 09:34 PM

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DSMLink.

Thor06 01-04-2007 09:38 PM

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DSMlink > EMS unless you are building a super monster car. Link is what around $600 and the EMS is what like $1200?

chickensoup 01-04-2007 09:41 PM

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are there any sites i can get DSMlink from ?? and are there any other needs if i buy i DSMlink btw i have a 97 gsx thanks for all the info so far any more would be grate

Kracka 01-04-2007 09:43 PM

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You will need an EPROM ECU out of a '95 2G GST/X.

All of your questions regarding DSMLink will be answered at www.dsmlink.com

The most important part about modding a DSM that most people skip is to get the car dyno-tuned. Too many people slap on parts but never get the car properly tuned and then wonder why the car runs like shit, is slow, blows up, etc.

Halon 01-04-2007 09:54 PM

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Pretty sure you can order it from any of the local vendors as well.

niterydr 01-05-2007 11:19 AM

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We carry dsmlink.

DSMlink > AEM EMS in regarding price.

EMS> DSMlink in tuneability.

It really comes down to what you are doing with your car, and the budget you have for it. Also your comfort level tuning. (are you tuning and building the car? Are you building the car and having someone else tune it? Are you bringing the car and money to a shop and having them take care of everything for you).

Goat Blower 01-05-2007 12:42 PM

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Tuning the EMS is not for the faint of heart, get the link, you'll be way happier.

v8klla 01-06-2007 11:56 AM

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We can also get DSMlink, and it is a great choice for most applications...

turbotalon1g 01-06-2007 12:13 PM

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Great info. ^
We know you sell stuff.
Dsmlink is great platform to learn, i am not stupid, but AEM is mind blowing compared to link and i am pretty handy with link.
If you want to learn about this yourself and you are somewhat good with cars i say DSMlink. I don't touch my tune once its done by swanny, no need. But i usually touch it up before he gets to it and last time i wasn't too far off.

If your a pro, and maybe know a lot then AEM.

If you want your car to be one of the top DSMs around get AEM.
Just don't mess with it after whoever tunes it is done.

Kracka 01-06-2007 12:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 172970)
Great info. ^
We know you sell stuff.

Holy PMS, settle down Brownman. Swanny said he can get Link so Chris just chimed in saying he can get it too.

Shane@DBPerformance 01-06-2007 12:35 PM

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I can get SAFC.

CDeutsch 01-06-2007 01:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 172970)
If you want your car to be one of the top DSMs around get AEM.

Why am I just learning this now? Shit, if an AEM is all it takes I can't beleive I pissed all that money away on a built motor, turbo, fuel system. Fack!

(just giving you crap man) :p

I liked my DSMLink (great product for the money).

LOL, at shane's SAFC comment.

Kracka 01-06-2007 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 172973)
I can get SAFC.

Can you get me the old-school single knob version? The 5-knob is nice, but its a little too complicated for me.

Halon 01-06-2007 02:13 PM

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5-knob would be tits for the colt!

Shane@DBPerformance 01-06-2007 02:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by S2kracka (Post 172985)
Can you get me the old-school single knob version? The 5-knob is nice, but its a little too complicated for me.

Sorry I can't. My supplier from 1989 ran out. But I could get you into a nice VPC setup. That has a single "gain" knob for tuning.

Kracka 01-06-2007 02:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 172988)
Sorry I can't. My supplier from 1989 ran out. But I could get you into a nice VPC setup. That has a single "gain" knob for tuning.

No thanks, I think I'll just buy one of these $20 eBay mods that'll give me 50 hp by adding a $.03 resistor to a wire.

turbotalon1g 01-06-2007 03:44 PM

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I am not PMSing, just sick of people posting without using there brain.
We all know what MAP can do, they roll deep, turned up at multiple track days in MN and at the shootout.
Everyone should know that they can get anything they need from the 4 local shops on this board.
Use your brains people.
Tim - i am just saying that the tunability for more power is there with AEM over DSMlink, i have link and i doubt that i will be getting rid of it, unless i NEED too.
Shane's comment is the best by far, just cause one shop does/says something doesn't mean another one has to.
I mean if someone has a special and you like to shop that much, then give a call and see what the others can do for you.
End rant.
Good luck soup, in whatever you choose, but you should def. take time and looked for one used, if you are looking for link, let me know i am on their forums that i am sure only link users have access.

v8klla 01-06-2007 04:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 172970)
Great info. ^
We know you sell stuff.
Dsmlink is great platform to learn, i am not stupid, but AEM is mind blowing compared to link and i am pretty handy with link.
If you want to learn about this yourself and you are somewhat good with cars i say DSMlink. I don't touch my tune once its done by swanny, no need. But i usually touch it up before he gets to it and last time i wasn't too far off.

If your a pro, and maybe know a lot then AEM.

If you want your car to be one of the top DSMs around get AEM.
Just don't mess with it after whoever tunes it is done.

My comment was in response to Brandon's regarding local shops having access to DSMlink. Being that he is new to the board he may not know who the 4 local shops are, and contrary to your belief I doubt that he knows what products we sell. I'm sorry I couldn't contribute further, but I didn't have anything to add to the thread besides the fact that I can help him find and install the parts he desires :rolleyes:

By the way, welcome to the forums!

Chris Carey

DSM_421 01-06-2007 04:31 PM

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I love you klla

Goat Blower 01-06-2007 04:37 PM

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I can get you a Blaha mas.

Goat Blower 01-06-2007 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 172970)
Just don't mess with it after whoever tunes it is done.

If you don't know how to tune fairly well with it, you shouldn't be getting an AEM in the first place. It's good to get it dyno-tuned for that last few horsepower, but if you can't set it up yourself, you should be getting something simpler.

HiImBrian 01-06-2007 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 173004)
If you don't know how to tune fairly well with it, you shouldn't be getting an AEM in the first place. It's good to get it dyno-tuned for that last few horsepower, but if you can't set it up yourself, you should be getting something simpler.

Tis true, I'm getting link and I'm planning on loading up a base map and then taking it in for a tune.

A//// Guy 01-06-2007 05:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 172994)
I am not PMSing, just sick of people posting without using there brain.

So LSE can say they carry it but MAP cannot? Im sick of your BS posts lately where you complain about stupid shit. Seriously we know you are biased toward a certain shop anyway, but others are more open to choices. Use your brain before you post again. Let the shops compete on there own, they dont need added drama like you have been bringing.

DSMlink- Easier to setup, less complex, cheaper
EMS-Harder to setup, more complex, more expensive

Take your pick.

AJ 01-06-2007 05:36 PM

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MAP pays for the right to come in here and advise they sell the product as well. In fact, that's the right of every one of our sponsors. It's how they choose to use it that's up to them.

If people have an issue with that bring it up with me. Leave the bullshit comments out of the fucking tech areas.

turbotalon1g 01-07-2007 09:07 AM

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My apologies fellas.
I like all shops all have there strengths and weaknesses.
I have been referring people like crazy to all shops.
About the whole messing with the tune, I have just seen to many people try to improve their received tune and mess up their cars in a bad way.

Kracka 01-07-2007 01:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 173080)
About the whole messing with the tune, I have just seen to many people try to improve their received tune and mess up their cars in a bad way.

Yup, 99% of the time its best to just leave well enough alone unless you know exactly what you're doing.

chickensoup 01-09-2007 05:28 PM

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ok thanks guys well ive decided to go with dsmlink and turbotalon1g that would be a blast if u could hook me up with one

niterydr 01-09-2007 05:42 PM

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Chickensoup- $559.00 on the dsmlink. You will also need a 2nd gen turbo eprom ecu. $60 to socket your ecu.

Nash 01-09-2007 06:15 PM

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Again leave the BS out of the tech forums.

chickensoup 01-09-2007 06:45 PM

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eh niterydr do u have a 95 eprom ecu for sale and when u say socket your ecu do u mean socket the 95 eprom ecu or socket my 97 ecu?? thanks

tim 01-09-2007 06:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chickensoup (Post 173561)
eh niterydr do u have a 95 eprom ecu for sale and when u say socket your ecu do u mean socket the 95 eprom ecu or socket my 97 ecu?? thanks

You would have to socket the EPROM so you can put the 'link in it.

EDIT: These guys sell a 2g EPROM that is already socketed for $250. That is a hell of a deal for a known working, already socketed EPROM.
http://www.ffwdconnection.com/electronix.shtml

Halon 01-09-2007 06:47 PM

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The only 2g's that came with EPROM's were 95's, so he'd be referring to socketing the 95 one.

chickensoup 01-09-2007 07:58 PM

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thanks tim hey do u kno if these guys are any good though??

chickensoup 01-09-2007 08:14 PM

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and does anyone kno if 1g or 2g eprom ecu matter or is the 1g is better or the 2g eprom better??? becuz the 250 for 2g eprom sounds like a good deal!!

v8klla 01-09-2007 08:27 PM

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You have to use a 1g in a 1g, and a 2g in a 2g. Different wiring/connectors...

tim 01-09-2007 08:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by v8klla (Post 173594)
You have to use a 1g in a 1g, and a 2g in a 2g. Different wiring/connectors...

And in the 1gs the 90 is a hair different yet as far as wiring goes. Easy fix though.

Jakey 01-09-2007 09:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chickensoup (Post 173587)
thanks tim hey do u kno if these guys are any good though??

Darren, the owner of FFWD, is an excellent person to do business with. I have done business with them before and have had nothing but great results.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chickensoup (Post 173592)
and does anyone kno if 1g or 2g eprom ecu matter or is the 1g is better or the 2g eprom better??? becuz the 250 for 2g eprom sounds like a good deal!!

2G EPROMs are getting hard to find so $250 is a respectable price. I sold one a few months back to someone up in Canada but I can't remember how much I got for it. On a side note, kno is spelled know; becuz is spelled because.

chickensoup 01-09-2007 09:10 PM

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ok i get it now thanks guys

Halon 01-09-2007 09:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey (Post 173604)
Darren, the owner of FFWD, is an excellent person to do business with. I have done business with them before and have had nothing but great results.

My experience is completely opposite, I 100% disagree.


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