Death to Saddam
 

This is how we should do it in the good ol' USA :cool:

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Damn, by hanging even. Good.

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Yea I was suprised by that! Glad that will be over atleast, he gets what he deserves.

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I love the fact that once the decision is final (after appeal) that the execution must be done in 30 days. We need to get that process here in the US. Why the hell should our tax dollars go towards keeping prisoners on death row for year after year.

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Yeah, Find bush jr. guilty of crimes agains humatiny also (like ordering hundreds of thousands of iraqi's deaths through war) and hang his bitch ass outside the whitehouse.

All things being fair.

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^^ Here shit goes....

Im not even responding to your retarded way of thinking.

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I'm not big on the death penalty, but I wouldn't mind seeing Saddam and Bush both swinging from the gallows. Both are self rightous pricks who think armies are their play things.

(thought I'd get in early to the shit storm :) )

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Hang 'em high...............

Last time I checked, we aren't at war with Iraq, nor have we ever declared war since WWII. Congress declares war, not the President. And Congress basically gave the President control over the armed forces. So technically, we aren't at war. Bush did however lobby for support from Congress to show the world that America was behind his actions. If you want to blame Bush for the deaths of our troops and Iraqi civilians, then you must blame Truman for the same in Korea, Johnson for Vietnam, and Bush Sr. for Desert Storm.

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Are you retarded? Good god.

People of style: it's the offtopic forum, I can say almost whatever I please. Don't hate the player, hate the game. ;)

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Just because you can say whatever you wish, doesn't mean you can post stupid comments.

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Same to you, n00b.

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Good one creampuff. Think I'm past that stage now.........

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Go figure, all the liberal countries who can't get their own shit straight are protesting his hanging. Fuck 'em, let him hang.

And if a couple of you clowns actually think Bush is somehow guilty of premeditated murder like Saddam because soldiers have died in a legitimate war, you obviously haven't gotten out and done anything for your country. There's a damn big difference between ordering thousands of people to be shot in the head and thrown into pits versus sending willing people over and paying them to protect our freedom. Personally, I think we should send over all the whiners and put them on the front lines, and throw John Kerry in front of them wrapped in nothing but an American flag.

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:D
Fo Shizzle

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Ill let Steve speak for me :)

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Well then, I'm with Peter: Steve has the floor.

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*My bad*

I'm with Steve, whether you agree with the war or not, Bush did not commit the atrocities Saddam did. Remember, those soldiers signed up for the armed forces, not the other way around. IMO all this pissing and moaning about it isnt doing anything to better the situation so why waste your time?

On a side note about sending people to war, when I was bussing to the party at M/// Guy and S2kracka's appartment, I sat near a slightly retarded old lady. She was nice and everything, but she spoke her mind with out thinking about it and didnt talk to anyone in particular. When two crazy goths got on wearing all black and baggy clothes, anarchy signs all over everything, that goofy emo makeup and like 3 ft green and pink mohawks she watches them pass and says, "I bet those used to be pretty girls, why'd they have to mess themselves up like that?" Then she looks right at a few ladies sitting across the isle and says, "We should send them to fight in Iraq, they would scare all the rag heads away right away." The two goths just kinda shot her dirty looks and the whole front half of the bus just laughed.

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NO MEMBER BASHING. :mad:

Everybody has an opinion, good, bad or ridiculous! :cool:

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You are so corredt man im with you, plus im in the military and so is my best friend. We both have signed up to be deployed(if you have a negative comments on that, you can go f**k yourself, Positive comments welcome thank you) We both believe in this liberation of iraq and are willing to fight for it. Also bush didnt start this, the f**king towel heads did. There has only been two presidents who had to deal with the probelm of being attacked on our own soil, first FDR WWII but that was pearl harbor and not the heart of america in downtown NYC at our most important building. So if you bitch ass liberal want to get something done stop whining and actually try to help this country instead of destoring it.

Ooo and let that MOFO HANG from the tallest building so everyone can see

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Saddam and in fact Iraq as a whole had absolutely nothing to do with september 11. Al Quaeda did. They were in the least being harbored by the Taleban. That's why world-wide support for our actions in Afghanistan was high, it was a reasonably legitimate course of action. The support for invading Iraq was low, because we had absolutely no good reason to invade.

Don't get me wrong, Saddam is a sick and demented fuck and deserves exactly what's coming to him. The trial is of course just a formality. He is being killed appropriately by those he wronged. Fair.

But when it comes to whether or not Bush has done something wrong, it's pretty clear. Sure, the members of the military are volunteer, but they entrust their safety in the commander in chief. When that person abuses their power and gets americans (and foreigners) killed he is doing something terribly wrong. Simply put, people die in war. Everyone knows this so you do not enter into a war without good reason.

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Yes! Good idea! Sorry I started this, I know I can't convince you guys.

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First off, I have nothing but respect for you and your best friend for enlisting and even volunteering to be deployed. You both are making the world a better place to live.

I consider myself a moderate, neither a liberal nor a conservative. I would however like to understand how you believe that liberals are whining, getting nothing done, and even destroying this country. Yes, they do want change, as do most Americans. Please do not cite John Kerry's comments. No politician or American would support his statements.

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Hey, just noticed this post, I believe you are incorrect, sir.

Mexican War
War of 1812
Revolutionary War
Not to mention countless other attacks on American soil by Native Americans and others.

Serve our country well! Use your head.

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Hey, did I mention;
Now stop arguing and stay on topic. :mad:

By the way, we went over there for oil, got it? ;)

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The Mexican-American War was not fought upon American soil. Texas was not a state, it was annexed while under Mexican rule. It's like saying Iraq is ours, then invading.

We went over there for oil? And I thought it was to import sand for our beaches, since global warming is rising water levels..........

Anyone think it'll be televised?

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You sure about that?

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You're kidding, right?

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Old Man Hill get's my write in Vote!

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vegancowboy has my vote, Iraq never planned that attack, if you think iraq should be blamed in part for the 9/11 stuff, you could also think that America is to blame for the oklahoma city bombing. Why would the president start a war with a country that didn't harbor the leading terrorists in the attack and had no weapons of mass destruction? That is the real question. One possible answer is that he was getting revenge for his pappy cause saddam put a hit on bush sr. That last part is true.

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How can you say that he never had WOMD? He used too... where did they go? My guess is over in a neighboring country being kept safe. And we will never know if Al queda never had ties with Iraq or Saddam, how can you be totally positive they didnt have a connection.

Either way, it is good to get a potentially harmful enemy out of power, and that is what we did.

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Why don't we just call up Osama and find out what's going on?

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(jokingly) Maybe we can have Tauni get his number. She seems to have the connections.
She did a nice job on finding out info for Jet though :D.
But back on topic...Anyone know when this hanging is going to take place? Hanging doesnt seem as painfull as being shot, but it lasts a lot longer so I guess that'll do.

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I wonder if they'll place the noose on eBay when it's all said and done?

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Yes.

There has never been any evidence supporting that. Even Bush has stated this publickly after being called on his insinuations that there was a connection. There was absolutely no connection between Saddam's regime and sept. 11 or Al Quaeda's actions. In fact, the two were pretty opposed to each other given that Iraq and Saddam's government were much more secular than most middle eastern countries.

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Given it's not pushes fault people got sent over seas, and i'm not blaming him for that... But can't we hang him anyways for being a dumbass?

You think they will televise the hanging? I'd be willing to pay for that sh!t.

We went over because we thought he had nuclear weapons. So we wanted to stop him before he was able to test or atempt to use them on this own people, or a nearby country. It's like giving a 4 year old a big red button that says "DO NOT PUSH", we know what's going to happen.

What i don't get, if we went into iraq to prevent them from getting nukes... didn't north Korea just get them and test them sucesfully? And now Iran is working on their program... at this rate we need a new president or a draft if we are going to keep this up.

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About the oil, yes. About staying on topic, NO. :cool:

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Well, if we'd have all known that beforehand, it would've made it much easier to make the decision. But we didn't, and a decision was made, sometimes you have to do that, popular or not. Had Iraq fired a missle our way at some point, we'd all be mad at Bush for not doing anything. Iraq definitely had a nuclear program, but even when that information is given to the American public, some democrats cry foul and have it removed stating the info could get into the wrong hands. Since we just took it out of the wrong hands, that's a weak argument in my book. More like bad timing for them as far as elections go. Hmmmm.

Besides that, just because we don't have pictures of all the weapons with Saddam posing in front of it doesn't mean they weren't there. They had plenty of time to get rid of them before we came over and it's widely though that a lot of it was trucked into Syria. There's also been reports of high levels or serin and other toxic gases dumped into the rivers there, it wouldn't be hard to get rid of. I think it's just a matter of time before we find something big.

I'll agree, Saddam obviously wasn't directly responsible for 9/11. Did he help Al Qaeda along the way? Very good possibility. Did he knowingly harbor and Al Qaeda, I can pretty much guarantee it. Just because you don't see it on the nightly news doesn't mean it doesn't happen. If you've been in the military during any conflict at all, you'd know that.

Point is, going in and killing the bad guy isn't cut and dry in this case. But along the way, we got rid of a murderous dictator and are restoring democracy to a country that's been in fear for decades. We're also building schools and giving freedom to people that are just realizing what it is. So even if we haven't gotten what we came for yet, we've left doing more for that country than all the "save the world" organizations combined could ever do. I feel good about that.

Oh yeah, back on topic for Vicious.

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Once again, Steve is right on the money.

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double post

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I agree with Steve also, but with all the satellite technology we have, we would have seen plenty of it leaving the country. It's hard to truck missles and such without being out in the open.