The 3S Gauntlet has been laid
 

Well Swanny, the bar has just been raised. Apparently some 3S guys in NC just ran a 9.66 at 139mph in an auto AWD 3S. Looks like the auto movement permeated into the big brother camp as well.

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Cool, that is a fast moving land yacht.

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If i'm not mistaken, that was 3SX's car

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Correct.

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I have seen video of this car, it is fast and really consistant.

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Isn't 3SX running one of the LSE xfer cases on that beast as well?

That's crazy fast for an auto plontoon on wheels. ;)

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DSMs are slow. :D

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I see Curt running around nekkid now rejoiceing!

3SX is just running rampid now.

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It is an automatic that was a 6spd a week or two ago.
There are 2 other automatic 3s's being built as well.
Dynamic racing still has the fastest manual transmission 3s at 9.73 something.
That 9.66 run wasn't perfect. I talk to 3sx and I don't want to know the $$ they have into that fully custom automatic setup.
I'll stick with my liberty modified transmission for next season (as long as they can get it done for me) thank you very much.

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Another 10 years and they might catch up to the current quickest DSMs and Supras. :)

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I agree.

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Maybe 5, the dsm's have walled in the 7's, lol.

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Brent went 6s a while ago.

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LOL, yeah thats a dsm.
If thats the case, the 3s's have been in the 7's for a few years. There is a prostock team running a 6g72 in a 3g eclipse.
Brent's eclipse is more like an "eclipse". Johns talon is a talon...everyone else is way behind (besides a few individuals).
Normal DSM's wall in the 11's, then 10's, then 9's is a huge hurdle.
3s's are about a second behind. 12's are easy, 11's are work, 10's are an accomplishment, and a select few are in the 9's.

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:from the evo owner:

Even the Evos passed the 3/S's up in 1/2 of the time of being out in the US of A and broke into the 8s. :D

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Good point! The 4g63 is pretty new to the U.S., so that is a huge accomplishment.
What is with the 3s hating? Isn't this Mitsustyle? The 3000gt/stealth community is finally starting to get aftermarket support.

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Yeah once 3S' get cheaper and cheaper I think the aftermarket will get larger. That's the main reason Honda and DSM's are insane with aftermarket parts. You're not making a huge car payment so you can afford to mod.

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I totaly agree with this statment. I respect the 3S guys alot. I mean wow to take a yaht and put that in the 9's is great. I bet if Swanny could hook up he be close. Or even there. We don't know what that Stealth can do with a clean run.

But I think the reason why the Evo's are so quick to get in the low times...is the Mivecc they have on the 4g.... Unless they are not running that. I know the FTO's have it.

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yea, thats it *rolleyes*

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So why is it big news when a 3S runs a 9, and that same number hardly garners a yawn in the DSM crowd? :D Oh yeah, there twelve times as many DSM's running 9's or better compared to the 3S crowd. ;)

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What am I wrong. If so please tell....

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you're honestly going to say that evo's (evo 9s to be exact) are fast because they have the ability to alter their cam timing?

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No I did not say that mostly...I was talking about it. The Evo's are fast because of the aftermarket base over here and back in Japan. Besides the 4g63 is a very nice engine. Its not great or godly but nice. But then again...I don't know the real facts on why they took a short time to get in the low times.

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How are you and john even related? IT boggles my MIND!

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LMAO!!!

My nomination for post of the year.

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18 times as many ;).

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I dunno..the 4g63 is voted in the top 10 motors of all time, next to the 2jz, and the rb26..

-A. Swift

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The 4G63 is a great motor hands down.

Most of the fast Evos do not have MIVEC. MIVEC just came out with the 9s, and there weren't even any aftermarket cams available for it until just very recently.

The 3s isn't that expensive, so I don't that has held it back at all. The MKIV Supra isn't cheap. The motor and drivetrain have held it back. It requires more work to get farther, which Josh has been doing.

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The weight is a huge issue, so are some major drivetrain issues. Things are getting better for the market, only time will tell where it walls again.

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Keep in mind that far more DSM's were produced than 3/S's allowing a much larger enthusiast base therefore more opportunities to go fast. I like both cars, nothing against either, I am just saying that statistics do play a role here.

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Yea, cause they were half the price! ;)

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About half the car too, stock for stock the 3/S is in a whole different league. ;)

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Thats great.

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Sorry for disagreeing with you...

Different people bought 3/S's for different reasons than those who bought DSM's; both are good cars in their own regard. I guess I really don't understand what DSMers have against the 3/S's. Every car has its strong points and there isn't a single car out there that doesn't have its weaknesses too.

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I lika a you. Waa waa wee waa!

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x2

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Why all the hate, I guess we could all just say that mitsus in general are crap because domestics have been running faster than them for a long time, Who cares.

There are more fast DSM's than 3/S's, there is a bigger aftermarket for DSM's, coincidence?? Also, DSM's are lighter, and can make as much power as a 3/S, both have all wheel drive, show me why the 3/S's should be a better drag car. Obviously 3/S's weren't designed specifically for the 1/4 mile, considering they are geared to do about a million mph, so who cares, hate all day long, but until you are running 4's like john force or someone your still a fag with a slow car.

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My nomination for post of the year.

This thread delivers.

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LOL haha. Go look around on the EVO forums and notice that a lot of the EVO owners go out and buy a car, then drop it off at Buschur or AMS, then write a huge check and make them promise that they will be the new dyno queen on the internet. After they are praised on the net they find a good driver and have them rocket their car into the 9s.

Now, not all EVO owners are this way but the ones that are the fastest, in most cases, are either business owners(AMS, Buschur, etc) or they are rich guys on the coast that have nothing better to do with their money.

Props to another 3/S in the 9s, hopefully next season we can have a local in the running. It obviously takes a lot of enginuity(sp?) to get a land barge like that to trap that low of a time.

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