Transmission wont go into reverse
 

Ok i have a problem with my 96 talon tsi awd manual i just got a remanufactered transmission from mitsubishi graveyard and i put it in like a week ago. Everything did work fine but now i have some trouble with the reverse it doesnt have it it doesnt even fell like theres a slot for it. I was driving earlyer yesterday and i backed out of my driveway and it was fine parked it and it didnt have reverse anymore, plus my fifth gear only stays in if i'm on the gas if i let go of the gas it pops out. Please give me some info on how to fix this beast, i really like driving it but it just wants to keep crapping on me.

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Did you re adjust your clutch peddle? If your clutch does not fully disengage, it will not let you into reverse. Also, try putting it into 1st gear first then reverse.

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My clutch is really touchy, it engauges right when you let your foot off the petal. O and now my fifth gear is completely gone since i let my brother drive it, all you hear is grinding, this is what he said (Its fast but your fifth gear dont work.)

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Like Bode said, first, try adjusting the master cylinder rod on the clutch pedal. I believe you adjust it out if it's grabbing too close to the floor. Then come back and tell us your findings.

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Well i adjusted it and it did nothing got anymore ideas guys, i'm begining to think this tranny is not a rebuilt and its shit.

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5th gear popping out is a transmission assembly issue. There is a nut that holds the gear stacks together, that backed off.
Not even feeling the reverse slot is usually an assembly issue. The bolt that holds the reverse gear "assembly" in place could be missing or backed off as well.

99% of the time those 2 problems are transmission assembly issues. Clutch adjustment issues effect ALL gears, not just reverse.

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So are the nuts your talking about the ones on the outside like it you took off the cover plate just tight those bolts?

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Take off the end cover, there are 2 36?mm nuts. Those are suspose to be tightened and then "dented" so they don't back off.

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Just curious what your "rebuild" consisted of? Also, was it a fresh rebuild or was it a used tranny that had been rebuilt at one time?

I googled mitsubishi graveyard and didnt see anything on their site regarding rebuilding services.

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This tranny was on there ebay store they say they take them apart and replace any worn parts gaskets, seals, bearings, gears, syncros and such. You can tell its been apart it has liquid gasket maker for the case seals, and the drive shaft seals are new.

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I already went through this once, exactly how you are describing.
The problems with having no reverse and no 5th sounds like you damaged the tranny, the causes for the damaged tranny are due to one or more of the items below. I damaged my tranny because of these things, hope it helps you.
Things to Check/replace:
VERY FIRST THING. Turn your adjustment screw on the peddle so to the right if your looking at the master cylender part of the screw, or the left if your facing the peddle. make sure it is almost all the way out. Do not take this step lightly, make sure you dont just skim over this because this can save you a shit load of a headache.Then try shifting it.
Go under the transmission where the slave cylender and make sure that the throwout bearing fork is either in the center, or towards the driver side. If its towards the passenger side then you either have a problem with the pressure plate, the clutch, or the shift fork, either way your taking out the tranny.
IF you are gonna take out the tranny check the clutch disk. Mine was destroyed. Check the pressure plate and the pivot ball. you might as well replace the throwout bearing just to be safe (and save a headache later on.
MAKE SURE the bolts that hold the tranny to the block are all very tight, especially the one that is just above the half shafts. (I had this problem, the bolt kept vibrating out and would cause the clutch not to shift due to the pressure plate pushing the tranny away from the motor. ) Make sure that this part of the tranny has no gap. it should be pressed up against the motor, This bolt is the only one that goes from the motor to the tranny, (as opposed to the bolts that go from the tranny to the motor)
Check these things and im sure you will find one of them problematic.

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Not nessesarily. When my bolts kept coming loose it affected reverse more then any other gear. DRASTICALLY. It would go into first and any other gear, (with little grind) but reverse was horrible.
He also said that the clutch engages right off the floor which is a tell tale sign of loose bolts or clutch adjustment.

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What loose bolts? all are tight and i adjusted the clutch it didnt do anything for me.

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Make sure the crush washer is there.

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I did for the reverse switch it was there, shortly after looking at that the reverse didnt work.

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Well i did what you said i tightend the two bolts, they were loose alittle the middle one more than any, but there was no difference still no 5th just grinds and reverse is still locked out. Any ideas?

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How is the shift movement? Do you have full range on the shifter assembly?

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Holy shit! That's a good post from Tom! WTF? You used punctuation, grammar and everything. Ok, your spelling still kinda sucks, but I'm very impressed.

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I got full range 1 thru 5th but reverse is locked out wich i really would like fixed i still drive the car every day with just 4 gears, 5th on the shifter locks in but theres nuthing there, i was thinking i could just pull the 5th gear, gear set off and put the one off of my bad transmission, on my bad tranny the intermediate gear shaft the bearings went out and it wore away some stuff and busted the case. Do you think i should try the 5th gear set swap?

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Taking apart a transmition and putting it back together right is not an easy task. I would not recommend it unless you seriously know what you are doing, and have the right tools to do it.

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Dont worry about me. I know exactly what to do.

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Then why are you asking if you should do it:confused: Get it done already if you know what to do.

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unless you mean that you know you need to bring it to a real shop.. I'd worry about you. My guess is that you couldn't tell the difference between the gears once you open up the tranny :( If you get into the inside of the tranny, it's a big cluster fuck with big / little gears all over the place. In reality, it's not complicated. However if you are untrained, you will just see a bunch of gears and have no idea what to do. Putting a wave washer or thrust bearing on backwards can completely screw up everything.

lol the wave washer / thrust bearing stuff is for A/ts :P woops

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I do have it done, I'm waiting for my silicone to dry as we speak one hour from now i will tighten the cover, add fluid and see if it works i found some wrecked stuff in there i'm gona see if i can show you guys, i will take pictures!

Tim, why are you still on dsmstyle? you dont have a dsm anymore, or do you plan on getting another?

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Theres a bunch of people on here without DSM's I think. You don't get kicked out if you sell your DSM and don't get another Mitsu product. Hell I don't own a DSM anymore and don't know the greatest amount about them, so now i just come on here to bug people like you.....haha

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The people who add worthless crap ^

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Well, two attempts at puting in the 5th gear assembly in and it didnt work i need some help, i thought i put the assembly in right but i obvisoly put somthing in wrong, goes into 5th and reverse now yeah, but nothing is there you can just swing the shifter back and forth its not ingauging anything does anybody have pictures or can sombody tell me how the assembly goes togethor, need some help bad so please if you could just post here or pm me.:(

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Do you have the detent balls in the shifter rails?
Did you assemble the trans in neutral?

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The first try i had the car in first gear and it was all messed up the second time i put it in neutral, i didnt take the balls out. Do you think theres somthing wrong with the detent not moving anything.

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If the balls aren't in the rails the car will not beable to get gears.

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So what should i do?

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Take the tranny apart again or send it up here.

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As I said, you'd be better off not touching it. The more shit you mess up, the more it will cost.

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Sorry if i want to experience things and fix it myself than have my mom or dad pay for it to get fixed for me.

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I'm pretty sure all i have to do is align the detents does anybody know how to do this?

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Anybody?

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You need to do a search for the Mitsu transmission repair manual. I think it's on one of the Gallant boards.

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I couldnt find anything.

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Well, looks like i'm taking the transmission out sunday and shipping it back to mitsubishi graveyard in new york. Hes fixing it for free and paying for shipping so that takes care of it, i did all i could do with the transmission being still in the car.

p.s. dont buy transmission from mitsubishigraveyard.com

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How much did this tranny cost you? Shep ones are the best way to go...

These trannies are one of the weak links on all DSM's. The last place I would buy a tranny from is a mitsu dealer or anything of any kind. Shep or TRE is the way to go. Even for just a stock replacement *stage1*