Automatic DSM 9-second pass
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM3YEfAAfBQ&NR

hope it's not a repost.

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That fucking owns. Mad props to the automatic.

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ftw

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yep, its a repost. :)

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Fucking awesome

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Call me a hater, but I want to see the entire vid. And at least some engine bay shots - a mod list to boot would be excellent.

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Its not bullshit. This was posted on a trusted site that I visit. The car is fast and the transmission is fairly stock other than a stall.

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sweet! fucking autos...

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What is there not to believe? He isn't even the only 1G auto in the 9s. It's a light car, with a decent sized turbo and the usual shit. It's 100% streetable though. Lee has constantly worked his times down over the last couple years with the auto.

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I'm not calling bullshit by any means. I'd just like to see the entire vid. I'd enjoy seeing the E/T and speed pop up and at least a look-see under the hood. Like I said, I'm very interested in a mod list. When I said "Call me a hater" I meant that I didn't like the vid, because it seems sketchy - thrown together quickly with just the run and a slip. Show it off, that's all I'm saying.

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Yeah you are just seeing the youtube version of it. What Shane is saying is that some of us have been following the car for awhile on anther board. The car is what it is advertised. Its a legitimate 9second street driven DSM.

There are getting to me more and more people that drive DSMs that make any power that are switching to autos since the DSMs weak point is the transmission. Yeah they aren't as fun to drive on the street but if you want to put your power to the ground and run the times you are expecting and auto or a shep dogbox is the only way in my opinion.

How often do you see a DSM make a shit ton of power but never run to its potential because of tranny shifting issues? There getting to me more and more auto DSMs way into the 10s and 9s. Like I said, they are boring to drive around on the street but when you go to the track you are more likely to get your moneys worth with an auto.

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Must I reiterate myself once more? BY NO MEANS AM I CALLING BULLSHIT. When I stated "Call me a hater," I was basically saying that I didn't enjoy the video that was provided. If you'd read further than the first few words and also my entire second post, you'd understand why. I myself have an automatic and am planning on making this sort of power. I know it can be done.

Here, I'll make it just that much easier on you and everyone else. Tell me the other board that you're following this car on and the gentleman's member name. Or maybe, if you're so inclined, you could provide a mod list from that gentleman. But I'm certain you'd rather continue pointing your finger and telling me what I'm saying.

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Things are not made totally public for a reason. If you don't know what board he is on, then you shouldn't know. That is by design. I will not post up his mod list.

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If it's on another board and you know its specs, then I'd imagine that it is public. I don't understand why you can't post up his mod list or at least the board so I can get my enjoyment out of a 9 second auto.

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It's a private board.

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Figures. Guy a sleeper?

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The board you are asking about has strict rules on leaking information from it to other places. It is an invite only board that you and I will probably never be members of.

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That would explain why the video is so vague.

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No, not really. Most of the videos of the faster NABR members are also all over the internet or their own personal site. The car is fast, and that's that.

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We aren't talking about faster NABR members. We are talking about this one guy with this one car. If all I wanted was to prove that I ran a 9 second quarter without anyone knowing who I was or what I had, I'd do exactly what he did. Short and to the point. It's people like me that want to know what he's running, so I can learn from his setup. And I don't think anyone has questioned if the car is fast. Even without showing the time and speed at the end of the track, I still know it ran 9 seconds just from seeing the run itself.

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The guy is on dsmlink and has his mods on there as well. His car has been runnign 9's since the middle of the summer if I can remember correctly. I thought his best was a 9.6. I heard about it on there and I remember saying it ran 9's all day long. I don't think that guy is trying to hide anything from anyone. I am fairly certain he is running a T67.

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Sounds like the right size turbo for the times, built ither 2.0 or it could be a 2.4 I think ither would make it there on race gas using an auto, with a T67 and supporting mods.

~John

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It would have to be stroked in to properly spool that turbo, especially without nitrous. That's basically all I wanted to know. I'm not familiar if it's out for 1g's, but is he using TCUgo?

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says who? shep and rau run 2.0s.

a lot of the auto cars run small shots of nawztrous.

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1.) Rau/Shep use GT series (BB) - faster spool.
2.) They're built for the track. If a car were street driven, as I'm led to believe from the posting, then it would be stroked.
3.) I'm aware that auto's use nitrous - but this one doesn't, from previous posts.

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to be honest, you dont really know what he has at all. you only know what you've been told. :)

also, ball bearing turbos dont do as much for spool as you probably think they do. they are quicker by something like 14% from what i've read. big wooop.

transient response is what they prevail at, and what they were designed for.

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BB turbos sure spin for along time even after the engine is off :D

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That is why the transient response between shifts is so good, once they get up to speed they stay spinning.

Rau and Shep are running turbos quite a bit bigger than a T67, their stuff doesn't spool that fast but it doesn't matter since they rev past 10,000RPMs.

They also make dual ball-bearing T67s now for not a huge amount more than the cost of a non-bb T67.

As far as not having to use nitrous has more to do with how high the stall convertor is setup in the car.

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What would having a stroked motor or not have anything to do with driving it on the street??

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If you want to get technical, keep in mind that Rau runs a BorgWarner CHRA, not a Garrett.
http://www.borgwarner.com/

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I don't know how this guy has his ride setup, but if it were me, I would definately want it to spool as quickly as possible. Normally when you size a turbo, you keep in mind when you'd like to see power. Why have a large turbo, but not enough nuts to spin it to see its true potential? I'd find it hard to believe that its something other than a 2.3 or 2.4L

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Congratulations on completely dodging my question. Your award is another chance to answer it. I shall even quote it for you.

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uhh stroked motor will spool a turbo quicker? I'm considerably rusty but I think that has everything to do with what he was saying.

The power of E-thug be with you!

That's a fast bitchin car! That's something great about AT's.. Much more consistant times. Constant 9's - Man I'd drive that car! lol

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What is with the ideology that you need boost on the street? I don't get it. Stay out of the power band if you want to drive it on the street, don't go crazy with the throttle... It's not that hard.

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You wouldn't be seeing peak power - which is what you'd need out of large turbo to run such a pass. It just moves his power band north on his RPM scale. He'd have to rev to 10,000 rpm. And I don't think he is.

Why don't you have someone strap on a T67 on a 2.0 4g63. I'd imagine you wouldn't see power until, say, 5000rpm. Congradulations, you have a 2000rpm window to see power. Not practical, but it does satisfy what you're saying.

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The last I checked DSMs can rev pass 7k. Stock rev limit is 7800 for christs sake. Remove the shovel from your hand, the hole is getting deeper and deeper.

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That, and Shep revs to about 10,000 on a 2.0. You can even see the tach in some of his videos. And his turbo isn't small.

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Shep revs past that even in 1st gear. His motor and head are built for that though. His turbo size is not any issue considering how high he revs and its even more of a mute point when he is spraying it.

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Again, he's built strictly for the track..........

And as stated above, he does spray. Although he does take it off from time to time.

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So what is your point? You want to build a 9 second daily driver automatic dsm street car?
I guess you want A/C, power steering, full interior, 150db system, get 30mpg, and have a towing capacity of 6000lbs?

I bet your gonna do it for less than $1000 as well huh? http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...com/asshat.jpg

Seriously, why don't you enlighten all of us noobs on what you are going to build? Then we can figure out what the hell you are talking about.

If you can get the turbo to spool and build the auto correctly it really doesn't matter what size you want to run.
We were going to put together a gt42 with a 2.0 on a auto and it would have been just fine for a purpose built car. Isn't that the point of building a car? The purpose of it?
High stall converters(what something like this car needs) SUCK ASS on the street to drive. The terms "street car" "daily driver" "streetable" "street legal" are not interchangeable.

If you can't tell I am just having fun with you, but calm down. This car is verified, people aren't lying to you.