hi dsmtuners! Care to help me?
 

Finally got some cash to throw at the dsm. Do you guys know of any deals I can grab to get me closer to my goal 600awhp. Of course Shane will be doing the tunning for it when the time comes. Basicly a stock 2gb gsx with boltons as of right now.

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Getting a hand to install the things would be nice too.

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What are you asking for?

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Your goal of 600 awhp is kinda silly, How about setting a 300 awhp goal first. Start off with a turbo, fmic, injectors, fuel pump, exhaust and fuel control. That narrows the slight basics first.

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Worst thread ever. Please before you post do some research, set a reasonable goal, get educated, and DO NOT just throw parts at the car thinking putting on a big turbo on a 7bolt will make you run 600hp.

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Maybe u should get something else? If u can't take time to research your goals you probably don't have time to learn a decent amount about these cars to take care of them.
Search is your friend on many sites, not MNSC or streetracers.org.
DSM sites, talk, tuners, check out vendors recommended staged upgrades for a rough idea.
Basically don't be lazy and use your brain.

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What do you have on the car now? What do you have purchased that you want to intall? Lastly, how much do you have to spend, we could help you pick out which parts would be the most effective for your money.

Otherwise, go to buschurracing.com and click 'add to cart' after the following items:
AEM EMS + Sensors
1600cc injectors
3" Turbo Back Exhaust
Race FMIC kit w/ big boy BOV
GT42R Turbo Kit

...and you'll be good to go! Oh wait, then you'll need a clutch, new brakes, some sort of decent fuel pump/fuel delivery system, and....well you get the idea...

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Set a realistic goal and then we'll help you. 600 is possible, but it takes a lot of time, money, and knowledge; its not just tossing on some cheap parts.

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For 600 HP you are going to need more than just cash. You really need to either grow up or set a real goal and a big bottle of asprin. Did you run this pass shane. He can help you with a setup for your goal. To be honest you are going to need about 6K plus dollars to get that much HP if you want your dsm to live. I think you should look at breaking the 300 HP first to see how you like it. Breaking the 300 HP is not going to break your wallet.

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Haha, it takes a lot more than $6k to get a well-setup 600 AWHP car! To go along with that much power, don't forget a new tranny and suspension setup it practically required to keep things semi-under control. I can go on and on, but you can't just bolt on 600 hp without drastically changing the rest of the car.

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A thread like this belongs in the newbie section of Toonerz.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I wish it'd cost only $6000 for a reliable 600awhp car. LOL 6 grand, buying only new stuff, pretty much get's ya some bolt ons.

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Give us a call and we can help you out, but as these guys are saying 600whp includes a built motor, large turbo, and supporting fuel/ecu modifications...

Chris

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Some people need to stop assuming everyone is a noob to cars just because they are a noob to the forum.

I thought about doing the step by step idea but that would be a waste of my money and I rather just shoot for the goal than buying a 14b then to a 16g then to a 18g then to a 20g and etc.... You see what I mean.... money wasted.

All I'm asking is for is advice and if you guys know of any deals or parts I can grab.

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Read your original post, you come off very n00bish, the reason I say this is b/c anyone who has been around awhile and done some research on their own wouldn't ask something like this. None of us are trying to hate on you, we are just being honest. We want to help, but first the goals must be realistic for your level and budget, which you haven't as of yet specified.

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I agree, 600 whp off the bat is not very realistic. 600 whp is also probably a hell of a lot faster than you realize. Shoot for 450 whp or so first. That is doable and still a damn fast car. How much money do you have to spend? It would make a big difference on what parts to get.

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let's just say budget build best describes it since I want to spend as little as possible

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What turbo can flow just enough air to support 600hp and not require me to rev past stock redline since I don't want to get stiffer valve springs.

What do you guys think about dsmlink and mapsensor setup?

If you guys know of or got stuff I'll be needing and it's not crazy priced then lmk.

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Wow, right off the bat with the money!!!
If I were you, I would fear the all mighty crankwalk after spending all that cash!

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Hahahaha, 600hp with no headwork?!?! Come on kid, like we've all said above, get realistic. Stop talking about 600 hp, tell us how much you want to spend, and we'll tell you what your optimal setup will be. There is a lot more to building a fast car than just bolting cheap parts on.

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Shut this down and let the kid do some serious research then come back, this is a waste of everyone's time.

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Why don't you just inform me what's needed to be done since you're typing any ways. It's alot more helpful than insulting me for not being as knowledgeable as you are.

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Stop calling me a kid you kid. Some people are so immature and unhelpful...

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Seriously. If you can't throw enough at a set-up to reva little high I wouldn't expect to be able to pull this off.

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Then I guess stiffer valve springs is back on the list then.

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Can we get a ban in here or something.

Heres the setup you need. Huge turbo, Huge injectors, Standalone, Good suspension, Good brakes, Big Fuel Pump, Big intercooler, Built tranny.

You wanna be vauge with what you want, I'll be vague with what you should get. Don't expect someone else to do your homework for you, if you want that, just roll up to a shop with a wheelbarrow full of money and have them do it, otherwise do some research, and come back with some halfway educated questions, and stop with this "How does I make my car go fast" shit.

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If you have cash, come over to my house and I'll sell you parts off of my 2g: the internally gated gt35rle turbo, buschur 2g fmic kit w/ tial bov and MAF-T setup, 650cc injectors w/ ported/polished 1g fuel rail for ...$2600? + some of your stock parts. That will get you started :)

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damn. I wish I had money like that. lol. The pass 3 yrs have been 90% maintenance then anything else for me, thats why I never got quicker :D. But back on topic. DSMtuners has a Stage 1-Stage3 set up thingy you could look at. It gives you a good idea about what you'll need for a certain amount of power and if you want more power you can go into the next stage. You can always substitute parts on their list for you own that might be cheaper.

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You really think I'm a car noob huh... stay out of my thread please

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What do you other guys say about this setup and hp wise?

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You've yet to say anything that proves otherwise. If you want our help, first you need to help us help you!

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What do you recommend me to get?

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Alright, I'll give you my $0.02 on a modification list (even though my car is farrrrrrr from 600whp). However, it would be great if you could expand on what boltons means.

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Tell us how much you have to spend, what kind of fabrication skills you have, what kind of goals you have besides horsepower, and quit acting like a damn noob.

There is this thing called google, you can search for things there, there are websites with 600hp dsms on there that usually have some details about their setups, go there instead of wasting our time, or quit acting like a dman noob and maybe we can help you.

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apexi 3" catback
mbc
intake

that's about it that I remember right now
very stockish right now

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still... you have a 7 bolt

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I don't have a welder but my cousin does the welding for me since he got one.

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I don't know a damn thing about 600hp setups, but people have had luck just shimming the stockers.

To add to the list given of what's needed, add a well built engine. You can't count on much more than 400hp on a good tune (from what everybody seems to be able to get away with) on a stock bottom end. The best way to think of the goal you've set is to plan on replacing better than half of the functional parts of your car. It's quite a goal.

Is that more helpful?

And don't be insulted by everyone's anger over this thread. You may not realise it, but you're posts give away an ignorance that will not allow you to meet your goals, yet. Hence the recomendations to set them a little lower. Set a goal of 300-350hp. The steps you'll take to get there will give you a lot of the knowledge you'll need to go higher. What you need to know to hit 600hp reliably is not the type of info you can gain by asking 'what do I need' on a forum.

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sorry guys but doing the step by step thing like I mentioned before is a real waste of my money and I rather get direct advice from you guys that been throught it many times before. I don't know about you guys but when it comes to things I know and someone asks me what should I do I normally help and guide and inform them what to do and buy. I don't do the shaddy "I don't what people to catch up or be at my level" unlike other people.

I think it's been mentioned here before by someone that some guys don't want other people to catch up or outstage them and so they won't help noobs or give them solid advice.

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if you want to go righ tot hte 600hp mark, and you dont have all the money it takes right away, start from the outside and work in. do suspension, get a built tranny, get the right turbo/manifold/exhaust/fuel system, then work your way inside, get headwork and finally get the block built. Once you have everything, then turn up the boost, tune it and you're there.