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I'm thinking about getting some turbo manifolds, with a 16g turbo. Any suggestions on anything that you guys have used and experienced with? I was planning on the Mitsubishi Evo III mainfold.

If this helps I'm also getting 75mm Magnus TB, and Magnus intake manifold.

Or if also there is better throttle bodies and intake... please let me know.

This will be for my 92 GSX!

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We run manifolds, not headers. ;)

DNP makes a nice low budget manifold that would work nicely.

Not much better than the Magnus intake. The 75mm might be a little over-kill for a 16g though.

I would suggest a bigger turbo (20g or .50 trim) before I started looking at intake manifolds.

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Thanks man!

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Whats a good turbo brand or is any .50 trim good?

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PTE, Forced Performance, Innovative, Turbonetics, etc.

The FP Green is a really nice bolt-on turbo that uses a little older technology, but works well. You might be able to find a used one at a good price.
Any turbo using the newer GT wheels are nice.

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How new are we talking about here? Past year, two, three?

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EVOIII exhaust manifold is a good upgrade and will go perfectly with a 16G. FP sells some complete turbo packages you might want to look into.

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That new Slow Boy Racing exhaust manifold looks nice, outflows an Evo 3. Also, when you do upgrade to a larger turbo, there is an external wastegate flange on the manifold. I'd suggest just a plain old 2G manifold, because they're cheap, keep the stock intake manifold for awhile, and get a larger turbo instead ;)

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I've read in here, that most people said that they should of stuck with the B16g and max it out. Instead of jumping to a 50 trim, but then people skipped both of them haha. I've never really thought about anything higher than a B16g, but .50Trim is so commonly used. So what do you guys say?

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I personally say go with any variation of the 16G instead of a 50-trim. A lot of people will disagree with me, but its my personal opinion. Its easier to setup and tune, quicker spool, and properly setup and tuned will be faster than a lot of the 50-trim cars around. There is a lot more to making a car fast than slapping a huge turbo on it, you need all the proper equipment surrounding the turbo too. I prefer a more well-rounded car, possibly milder setup, for a street car than a lot of people do; but I also value overall performance (not just straight line speed), reliability, and durability fairly highly.

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So many 16G options, and prices are so wide ranged. Some of the HP ratings are kinda different even though their the same turbo. FP, SBR, BHP...

My budget is $600-700 for a turbo!

Small 16g
Big 16g
Evo III Big 16g
18g-5h (any experience?)
GT 16G Turbo
Is there such thing as just a 16G turbo or is that just the same as a small 16G?

I was thinking of going with the GT 16G from www.DSMparts.com for $540

Desc: Big 16G GT model has a smaller turbine scroll for quicker spool up. This turbo comes complete with the additions of a full port job and 34 mm waste gate port and flapper disc.

Specs: Compressor Wheel = Big 16G // Inducer Diameter 1.892" // Exducer Diameter 2.680" // CFM 550 Turbine wheel = TD05H // Inducer Diameter 2.200" // Exducer Diameter 1.930" // Turbine Housing 7cm2 // HP 400 .

TECH TIP: This turbo is not MHI, it is manufactured by BBL group. (does mean that I have to do something else to it?)

So should I also take into consideration of the Inducer and Exducer sizes?

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A normal/plain 16G is the small 16G. The one to get is a real MHI Evo 3 16G.

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$530 for an Evo 16g from me.
I am usually 1 week out.

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Stay away from the GT 16G's, they are knock-offs from China. The EVOIII 16G is a great choice and that price Swanny (niterydr) is offering is a great deal.

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It's not harder to tune a .50 trim. I would suggest it to anyone wanting to make more power over stock. You tune to airflow through the engine, whether it's an evo3 16g or a .50 trim. Tuning is tuning. The .50 trim has been proven many times over to be a great street turbo for the 2.0L, even better for a 2.3-2.4L if you like near off idle boost responce. ;)

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I like my PTE 50trim. I personally like 20g's, but I got the 50 trim because I got a sweet deal on it.

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Exactly. The 16g is barely an "upgrade". The only one I'd ever consider, if ever, would be a Evo3 16g because it actually does make a good amount of power for the money spent on it. A tune is a tune. When you start guess "tuning" is when shit blows up. I bet you'd be happy with a 50 trim. If you're on a budget, you might be able to even get away with an internally gated one; but port it for it to not creep. My low compression 1g motor spooled my ancient Mutt 50 trim up by low 4000s on the street and hit pretty good at 30 psi.

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As above stated..50 trim is the way to go.

Don't bother with the intake mani just yet. It really won't help you a whole lot over the stock one, until you are revving really high, and you are making a lot more power. 500 spent on that mani to gain a fe wextra horse could be used towards something else, like nitrous, or even c16 for your car.

-A. Swift

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I currently have a small 16g... and it is kind of slow! Very few supporting mods that is. Remember I was the 1g that ran consistent 16s at August Sport Compact!

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Thats because you don't have all the supporting mods to actually take advantage of it. I'm pretty sure 16G's have gone 11's, with a good driver and the right setup they can very easily be low/mid 12-sec cars.

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Yup I suck at driving still, I just got my license in April haha! And first time launching my car was the night before rock falls haha!

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A stock DSM runs like 15.5 I thought?.....

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With a good driver, stock 1G AWD DSM's can go 14's, lightly modded 13's. When my old 1G FWD was bone stock I was cutting consistant 15.3's @ 93 mph, but I know it could have gone into the 14's with a more experience driver (this was just after I had gotten it back in high school, my frist time ever to the track).

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I've seen stock doing low 15s! I'm pretty sure I have a boost leak, and haven't had time to check. My Hallman MBC has a hole in it, I thought it was like that from the factory, but I was wrong!

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MBCs have a bleed hole in them between the controller and wastegate to prevent boost spikes during shifts.

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a 14b powered car, has run 10's. It's all in the car and more-so the driver.

-A. Swift

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Bucci's times are incredible but do not forget to mention that he was running nitrous.

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From www.dsmtimes.org

He also ran 10.841 @ 126.63 with no nitrous.

The 10.61@131.x was with the sauce.

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You got me there, time to learn how to read. :o

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:brushes shoulders off:

haha

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I'll go with a Big16g!

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My EVO III 16G has been doing me good! :D

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Yeah i love my 50 trim. When i got the 95 gst it had a small 16g on it, and i felt like i ran out of turbo, then i put on the 50 and felt like a kid in a candy store all over again.

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Yep. If you're even thinking about going bigger... do it once, do it right.

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I have a True MHI Evo3 turbo, i love it! its ported and has a 34mm flapper. I have a 2g manni that has the outlet ported to 7cm and i have a matched gasket. i have all the supporting mods but i don't have any numbers quite yet. I would recommend this turbo to anyone who wants a good street setup. It spools quick and it flows good CFM for the $.

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Evo lll turbos can make good power, its all in the setup and having everything work together.

~John