aclh/meth/water injectio
 

So is it that good on daily driven cars...


does anyone have it set up on their 2g?


should we do a group buy?

-E

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group buy! group buy! Id definitely be down for getting a kit.

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I would also be interested in a good kit.

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Group buy for sure! I was just thinking about doing a meth kit.

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Can someone explan this? Just kinda wondering how it helps. Or any links of it.

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I'll take a stab at explaing but I could be wrong; This will basically replace your intercooler, while doing the same thing an intercooler does but in like a liquid form. Lot of dragsters use these kits and I guess people who don't want the extra weight of an intercooler? or in my case, when you can't have any visible mods :D Hope I got that right.

I want to know how well these will hold up on daily drivers too though, like Enes asked. Anyone have any experience with these?

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Oh ok thanks!

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No, it is not really intended to replace the IC. It basically switches on when boost is entered and raises the octane of the fuel and lowers the temps some. It allows you to run more boost on pump gas.

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I thought you tap the i/c pipe close to the TB and it just sprays more octane in the motor and lower the combustion chamber temp meaning you are able to run pump gas close to race gas as tuning it concerned. I didn't think it had anything to do with the intercooler.

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All I know is that I've been wanting it on my car for about a year, and if anyone started a group buy, I'd be in like flynn!

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(Copy & Paste)

**This is the true Mitsubishi Stage-2 "Snow" Performance Boost Cooler kit that a lot of whispering has been done about. It is for the most part the same as any other Stage-2 Snow kit, but uses a two dimensional map for more accurate and more efficient methanol injection. This system uses boost and mas air flow to ensure the correct amount of methanol/water injection!

$399.00 **

Than step up to the 7 quart reservoir. If we could get this system for less I'm in all the way.

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I might be interested in a group buy too.

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I built my kit for about $150. I run a 50/50 mixture of methanol/H2O.

As we all know, our cars run rich under WOT to dissipate heat and prevent knock (over 50% enrichment if you are flowing more than 2.7 g/rev). This fuel is not burnt and is only added to displace heat. Unfortunately, gasoline is not effective at quenching heat and preventing knock. Water and methanol have considerably higher latent heat of vaporizations compared to gasoline and therefore quench more heat than gasoline. By injecting water/methanol into the cylinder you can remove a great deal of gasoline that isnt being burnt in the combustion process. This lowers combustion temperatures and slows the flame front (much like race fuel). This means that you can run more boost and advance timing.

Water has a greater latent heat compared to methanol and methanol is basically an octane booster. Some people have more success with 100% H2O while others have more success with a mixture of methanol and H2O. Keep in mind that methanol burns in a 6.5:1 ratio, so your desired A/F ratio will decrease.

These setups are perfect for street cars that run on pump gas and run high boost.

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Yes, it is basically a "chemical intercooler". I was able to raise boost to from 21 to 24 psi and advance timing anywhere from 1 to 3 degrees (although I could probably add more).

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lets do this! however, if we get a mitsu specific kit i'm out.

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I have never seen a car specific kit. Most kits are universal. All you need is a pump, hobbs switch, wiring, water lines/fittings, check valve/solenoid, and injector.

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the one unreal808 sounded mitsu specific, but yeah I havent seen any others that have been car specific. I have a car that is MAFless.

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I also do not want a car specific kit as I run a stand alone ECU, so it would do me no good. I have always heard good things about the Aquamist setups.

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Yay, all the Supercharged 3G Eclipse guys use an alcohol kit, so they can run more boost without having to replace the pistons, and for the fact that they don't use an intercooler. I would buy a kit if it was around $200.

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I purchased the majority of my parts from here:

http://www.enginerunup.com/

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Jet, check out the Torque Freaks/Derek Devises kit for one that integrates well with an AEM EMS.

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Aquamist probably makes the nicest pumps. I really like the kits from SMC too (SMC has great customer service). The EvolutionM forum has lots of good info on aquamist and SMC.

I have a new (never used) Aquamist 1S kit I'd sell for $500 shipped if anyone is interested. I'm not ready to put it on the Evo and I'm going to try E85 in the Talon.
http://www.3sxperformance.com/alcoholinj.asp

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We should do then a group buy, i'd be in for 1 or 2, maybe even 3 kits depending on the price..

I would put one on my Diesel truck and Eclipse, plus most likly a gift for a friends Eclipse..

-E

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well lets do this then! we should vote on a kit.

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wow, this idea really died, WTF.