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HiImBrian 05-23-2006 12:00 AM

GSX vs. T/A
 
First off I'm not a huge racer or anything. But I will take part in racing events/get togethers.

Well my buddy has a Trans Am and he likes to talk big. So we decided to run our cars tonight. We hit up a long flat road with practically no cars. I've got a gsx so i crushed him on the launch and stayed in front up to 80mph. I think this is a pretty sweet story, considering a tiny little turboed 4cyl took a beefed up v8. anyways, theres muscle vs. import for ya. haha

Jakey 05-23-2006 12:02 AM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
Great.

sleepydsm 05-23-2006 12:03 AM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
LS1 or LT1 or older?

Andrew7dg 05-23-2006 12:04 AM

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There is nothing like an AWD launch to put Trans Am, Camaros, Mustangs to shamehttp://dsmstyle.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

howslowcanyougo 05-23-2006 12:47 AM

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Yep too bad they can catch up and win as well.......?

It all depends on an almost infinite amount of factors.

You can make generalizations, but they are only generaly correct at very best.

slowbubblecar 05-23-2006 12:51 AM

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I took a LT1 before in my old car with a slipping clutch. The random person flagging asked if I wanted a head a few lengths. I didn't need that...

INTRIGUED 05-23-2006 12:54 AM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
I have plenty of story's "racing" misc cars in your car. :) It pulls strong, Shifts unlike any other DSM I have driven. Could use a little bit of a stronger clutch IMO. Throw a FMIC on there and see what she can do. Have you shortened the shifter yet? Previous owner didn't mind the huge dildo shifter.

TheBlizzard 05-23-2006 01:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howslowcanyougo
Yep too bad they can catch up and win as well.......?

It all depends on an almost infinite amount of factors.

You can make generalizations, but they are only generaly correct at very best.

Already talking like a long time Cobra owner. Pretty soon you will be saying that the only 'real' racing is from a roll.:rolleyes:

Nice race, but a video would be even better.

INTRIGUED 05-23-2006 03:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlizzard
Already talking like a long time Cobra owner. Pretty soon you will be saying that the only 'real' racing is from a roll.:rolleyes:

Saw that coming, Was wondering who was going to say it. http://dsmstyle.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

howslowcanyougo 05-23-2006 09:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlizzard
Already talking like a long time Cobra owner. Pretty soon you will be saying that the only 'real' racing is from a roll.:rolleyes:

Nice race, but a video would be even better.

Nope, you and I both know every almost every make model cars have their strentghs and weaknesses. <Except for Honda's that are mostly weak>

That V8 muscle has it's disadvantages as well........<Like all the Girls!>

AJ 05-23-2006 09:37 AM

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These "recaps" should really be in the "other" part of the site ;) But then I guess if you can't see that "other" part, you wouldn't know about it huh? ;)

Onefast99gsx 05-23-2006 10:04 AM

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You should literally blow the doors off the T/A with your GSX. You must be pretty stock though. Anytime I raced last year with my GSX I couldn't even run in the Street Eliminator class where the Trans Ams, Camaro's & Mustangs genearally run. I had to run in King of the Hill. I don't know where the cut off is, 12.99 or 12.50. I was dialed in at 12.00.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 05-23-2006 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howslowcanyougo
Nope, you and I both know every almost every make model cars have their strentghs and weaknesses. <Except for Honda's that are mostly weak>

That V8 muscle has it's disadvantages as well.

I can think of a few hondas that would tear up your mustang... So what's up with that generalization? Sounds sorta hypocritical.

HiImBrian 05-23-2006 12:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm
LS1 or LT1 or older?

LS1.

I'm fairly stock.
ported/polished big16g
custom 3'' turbo back exhaust (no cat)
Injen intake
1g bov

I'll have my new ported exhaust mani w/ a 38mm wastegate soon. Then I'm planing on upgrading my fuel system and put on a 1g intake system.

I can't upload vids otherwise I would. Sorry but my computer is ungodly slow and I think it would die if I tried to do that haha.

Jakey 05-23-2006 12:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX
w/ a 38mm wastegate soon.

And what kind of boost levels are you planning on running?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX
put on a 1g intake system.

Intake manifold?

howslowcanyougo 05-23-2006 12:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimpin Dsmstyle
I can think of a few hondas that would tear up your mustang... So what's up with that generalization? Sounds sorta hypocritical.

I was joking, guess you didn't get it?

You havn't seen my mustang yet!

In fact I havn't seen my mustang yet!<at least in person, yet!>:rolleyes:

Sorry if I offended your sensitive nature.....but comeon....defending hondas now huh?.........:confused:

The real Bottomline is that any make or model can beat any other make model on any given day depending the the cars setup and driver, PERIOD!

I LOVE MANY DIFFERENT MAKES AND MODELS OF CARS!!!

There I said it!

Onefast99gsx 05-23-2006 12:42 PM

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An LS1 is good for around 13.2.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-Tra...slip-6596.html

The one is the link above is modified some.

howslowcanyougo 05-23-2006 12:49 PM

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Cool site! Nice to get at least a base to shoot for?

Hmmmm....

Looks like I could hope to be close to the 11 second club, if I get setup right and could ever learn how to drive right?


http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

Don't know if that will ever happen as I'll have a vert, and I seriously doubt I'll ever be putting in a rollbar.

HiImBrian 05-23-2006 12:53 PM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey
And what kind of boost levels are you planning on running?


Intake manifold?

I'm planning on boosting around 18psi.

And I want the 1g throttle body, heads, and intake mani.

howslowcanyougo 05-23-2006 12:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX
I'm planning on boosting around 18psi.

And I want the 1g throttle body, heads, and intake mani.

What are you running for Fuel control/engine management?

Pimpin Dsmstyle 05-23-2006 03:58 PM

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No I'm not sticking up for hondas in general. I just know of a couple big HP hondos and one of the is on this site >>

HiImBrian 05-23-2006 06:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howslowcanyougo
What are you running for Fuel control/engine management?

I will be running safcII shortly

Swifty1638 05-23-2006 06:25 PM

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hey brian, lets try to meet down on uni one night..I MIGHT be able to make you a bracket for the safc or something..I also know of places you can get it, so it's not just "thrown" or stuck to the dash, or something.

-A. Swift

HiImBrian 05-23-2006 06:54 PM

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I wanna get the turbo thing all firgured out first swift.

FattyBoomBatty 05-23-2006 07:15 PM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howslowcanyougo
Yep too bad they can catch up and win as well.......?

It all depends on an almost infinite amount of factors.

You can make generalizations, but they are only generaly correct at very best.


Generally, my conquest would whip anyone on here's car's ass.

howslowcanyougo 05-23-2006 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty
Generally, my conquest would whip anyone on here's car's ass.

Since I know not you or your setup, you just MIGHT be correct!


Then again, do you know mine?



Wait I don't even know mine YET............CRAP.....:confused:


That has ALWAYS been the poker playing game of racing......


Except if you have a big wing or a yellow and purple color combo, then you KNOW they are fast!:rolleyes:

Jakey 05-23-2006 07:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX
I'm planning on boosting around 18psi.

I hope that you do realize that if you plan on running higher boost levels, you do not want to enlarge the size of your wastegate flapper, unless you plan some sort of spring modification.

HiImBrian 05-23-2006 07:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey
I hope that you do realize that if you plan on running higher boost levels, you do not want to enlarge the size of your wastegate flapper, unless you plan some sort of spring modification.

dont the tial 38mm w/g's have a spring that controlls the boost? And please explain how I would go about enlarging my w/g flapper. I have pulled my tubo and I am familiar with the stock internal w/g and the flapper. But can't I just weld the flapper?

tim 05-23-2006 08:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DSMStyle
These "recaps" should really be in the "other" part of the site ;) But then I guess if you can't see that "other" part, you wouldn't know about it huh? ;)

I am not cool enough.

Jakey 05-23-2006 09:05 PM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX
dont the tial 38mm w/g's have a spring that controlls the boost? And please explain how I would go about enlarging my w/g flapper. I have pulled my tubo and I am familiar with the stock internal w/g and the flapper. But can't I just weld the flapper?

Nevermind what I've been saying, I thought you were going with a 38mm internal wastegate.

s1ngletracker 05-23-2006 09:24 PM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty
Generally, my conquest would whip anyone on here's car's ass.

bold statement. Care to back that up with anything?

HiImBrian 05-23-2006 11:50 PM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey
Nevermind what I've been saying, I thought you were going with a 38mm internal wastegate.

Woofta! I got a little scared. I've learned my lesson about posting things w/o researching things before and I was totally lost for a second.

vr-4lif3 05-24-2006 12:31 AM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm
LS1 or LT1 or older?


Umm I'm pretty sure its LT1..... I raced as well in my stock 3000gt VR4 and missed thrid :( and still beat him. I would have really struggled with a LS1.

HiImBrian 05-24-2006 10:27 AM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
Yea I talked to him last night and I was wrong. It is the LT1 w/ a few bolt ons n stuff

sleepydsm 05-24-2006 11:17 PM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX
Yea I talked to him last night and I was wrong. It is the LT1 w/ a few bolt ons n stuff

Oh, well then thats not impressive at all.

CVD 05-25-2006 05:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm
Oh, well then thats not impressive at all.

Wow, nice kill.

slowbubblecar 05-25-2006 07:07 AM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty
Generally, my conquest would whip anyone on here's car's ass.

I'll doubt that. I will try you in my new $2500 beater when I figure out the shift linkage issue.

slowbubblecar 05-25-2006 07:09 AM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swifty1638
hey brian, lets try to meet down on uni one night..I MIGHT be able to make you a bracket for the safc or something..I also know of places you can get it, so it's not just "thrown" or stuck to the dash, or something.

-A. Swift

I usd to just wire the safc into the glove box and mount it in there as people wouldn't be able to see it and you can lock it between tunes. It didn't look too bad having the Safc and AVC-R mounted in there before.

slowbubblecar 05-25-2006 07:11 AM

Re: GSX vs. T/A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX
I'll have my new ported exhaust mani w/ a 38mm wastegate soon.

What manifold are you getting? Why are you using an external on the big 16G? Do you plan on upgrading? If not, I guess I would have just ordered the 38mm flapper for the turbo as they are much cheaper.

Swifty1638 05-25-2006 07:37 AM

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as far as I was told the turbo has an upgraded flapper brian..i'll hafta look into that.

-A. Swift


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