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DB Performance 02-28-2006 08:26 PM

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Hi. I just wanted to introduce our shop to everyone. We have been doing Ford performance since 2002 and are now getting into the import tuning arena. We will be moving into our new shop in Rogers, right by where the Mitsubishi cookout has previously been held, in a couple weeks. We have a lot of experience with turbos and can work on or do tuning on everything from Mustangs to DSMs to Hondas to Subarus. If you need any parts, tuning, installs, or whatever, give us a call. Hopefully we will have a sponsor forum on here soon.

niterydr 02-28-2006 08:36 PM

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Welcome to the forums. Congrats on the new location. Are you guys still planning on using Hi-Tech's dyno?
We are just down the road in Maple Grove.

Nash 02-28-2006 08:36 PM

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Welcome to the site.

DB Performance 02-28-2006 08:39 PM

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No, we already have an AWD dyno.

niterydr 02-28-2006 08:41 PM

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Sweet, what kind? I thought you guys were out of a garage in Loretto or something.

Jakey 02-28-2006 08:42 PM

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Welcome to the site!

DB Performance 02-28-2006 08:43 PM

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We have an AWD Dyno Dynamics.

niterydr 02-28-2006 08:44 PM

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Thats cool. Who was your sales rep? We'll have to compare numbers once ours is installed.

DB Performance 02-28-2006 08:47 PM

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Nobody, we bought a used one. But it was brand new back in June. We talk to Brian quite a bit though. He was the one who sold it to the previous owner.

niterydr 02-28-2006 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DB Performance
Nobody, we bought a used one. But it was brand new back in June. We talk to Brian quite a bit though. He was the one who sold it to the previous owner.

Sweet deal, those are a bitch to find used. When will you be up and running?
Either way, welcome to the forums, its nice to see a shop with the same type of dyno :).

DB Performance 02-28-2006 08:57 PM

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We should be into the new bigger shop in two weeks. We are waiting for our dyno room to be finished to install it.

niterydr 02-28-2006 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DB Performance
We should be into the new bigger shop in two weeks. We are waiting for our dyno room to be finished to install it.

Cool, let us know if you need any help. Its a bit hectic, but you will be neighbors, and we are always around.
Let us know when your up and running, Im excited to see the digs!

Jakey 02-28-2006 09:00 PM

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Just curious and I apologize if this sounds rude, but what experience do you bring to the table in terms of import tuning? I see all that is listed in your original post is Ford Performance.

AJ 02-28-2006 09:13 PM

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I want to welcome DB to the site as a member and as a new sponsor. I will allow them to post up about their experiance and what they can also bring to the site in their own forum if they wish.

DB Performance 02-28-2006 11:06 PM

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Thanks for the interest. No offense taken Jakey, I will get to that in a moment. Good question though. DB Performance is pretty well known in the Mustang world and a few select imports and other domestics alike. I was Brent Rau's crew chief for the 2004 NOPI season. So I have had some hands on with a fast DSM. DB Performance has been located in a shop on private property for over 3 years. Never in Lorreto and I have never dyno'd at High Tech. Up until now I have always dyno'd and tuned at Elite. Mo and I have a great friendship and business relationship. As stated before we are moving into a new location in the heart of Rogers. 4 right turns off of I-94 and you'll be at our door. Now to answer your question Jakey, I have teamed up with Shane Ziegler/ecoli to bring this new venture to the Twin Cities. As most of you know, Shane is a very good tuner with a highly valued reputation. I haved followed many threads and have seen the concern when people relized he had left Elite. Well, Shane is available for all your tuning needs on our new/slightly used Dyno Dynamics AWD dyno. We are shooting to be open for business by the 15th of March. Please feel free to contact myself (Dan) or Shane if you have any questions or concerns. Please stay tuned and we will keep everyone updated on the progress and opening date should anything change.
Thank you all for the warm welcome and we look forward to working with you all in the future.

Dan / Shane

rst95eclipse 03-01-2006 12:05 AM

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I wish you the best of luck in your venture. I'll probably come up to check you guys out in the summer.

On a different note, are you the guy from Stewartville, MN that was on Rau's squad?

Super Bleeder!! 03-01-2006 12:27 AM

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that was Isaac

TheBlizzard 03-01-2006 01:28 AM

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Sounds like quit the shop, the combination of tuning domestics and imports should get you two a lot of buisness. Having a two tuners that have a awesome rep will also draw customers to you all on its own. Welcome to the site.

x-pride 03-01-2006 02:27 AM

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Welcome! Now I can tell people where Shane went.

Halon 03-01-2006 06:00 AM

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Welcome! I used to work out there in Rogers at Alcoa right off Industrial Blvd. Sounds like you guys will have a nice thing going for you there! Welcome and best of luck

Swifty1638 03-01-2006 06:50 AM

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Congrates on the place and new job shane. I hope that business and income will be profitable for you. It's good to know that you didn't go anywhere else, and decided to stick with the tuning aspect of things, because I know that's what you love to do. welcome to the site dan. I can't wait to see the new place you have set up here soon..I'll bring the jelly.

-A. Swift

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 03-01-2006 07:31 AM

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..I'll bring the jelly.

-A. Swift

I got the chunky peanut butter. Hiiiiii DB!

Jakey 03-01-2006 07:45 AM

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Awesome!

TalonFiero 03-01-2006 09:04 AM

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Dan welcome to the site, glad to hear you brought Shane on board. I will definitely check out the new place once you guys are up and running at the new location.

Jim

Jana 03-01-2006 09:06 AM

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Welcome and glad to have you both on board. :D I look forward to seeing the shop.

niterydr 03-01-2006 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DB Performance
Thanks for the interest. No offense taken Jakey, I will get to that in a moment. Good question though. DB Performance is pretty well known in the Mustang world and a few select imports and other domestics alike. I was Brent Rau's crew chief for the 2004 NOPI season. So I have had some hands on with a fast DSM. DB Performance has been located in a shop on private property for over 3 years. Never in Lorreto and I have never dyno'd at High Tech. Up until now I have always dyno'd and tuned at Elite. Mo and I have a great friendship and business relationship. As stated before we are moving into a new location in the heart of Rogers. 4 right turns off of I-94 and you'll be at our door. Now to answer your question Jakey, I have teamed up with Shane Ziegler/ecoli to bring this new venture to the Twin Cities. As most of you know, Shane is a very good tuner with a highly valued reputation. I haved followed many threads and have seen the concern when people relized he had left Elite. Well, Shane is available for all your tuning needs on our new/slightly used Dyno Dynamics AWD dyno. We are shooting to be open for business by the 15th of March. Please feel free to contact myself (Dan) or Shane if you have any questions or concerns. Please stay tuned and we will keep everyone updated on the progress and opening date should anything change.
Thank you all for the warm welcome and we look forward to working with you all in the future.

Dan / Shane

Good deal. I was just inquiring as that is what I've heard, thanks for squashing the rumors.
Great choice on hiring Shane, he is a very well respected tuner thru-out the import and Minnesota scene in general.

scheides 03-01-2006 09:28 AM

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Welcome guys! Shane has been an excellent member of this board, and I think the guys at LSE could use a run for their money. I think a few dual dyno days are in order, and seing as you guys are both going to be up and running soon (with awd dynos, that is), I'd like to spearhead this by offering to put my car on both and see how the numbers stack up.

This is going to be a fun summer!

Pushit2.0 03-01-2006 09:56 AM

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Nice find on the used DD, I hope it all works out for you guys.

~John

niterydr 03-01-2006 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides
Welcome guys! Shane has been an excellent member of this board, and I think the guys at LSE could use a run for their money. I think a few dual dyno days are in order, and seing as you guys are both going to be up and running soon (with awd dynos, that is), I'd like to spearhead this by offering to put my car on both and see how the numbers stack up.

This is going to be a fun summer!

We are always up for the challenge.
The car should have similar numbers on both dyno's. They are the same brand, they are the same type, they are nearly next door...they should be the same. But I agree that having a comparable car between the both would be nice.
Or are you talking about getting your car tuned at both locations?

TheBlizzard 03-01-2006 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by niterydr
We are always up for the challenge.
The car should have similar numbers on both dyno's. They are the same brand, they are the same type, they are nearly next door...they should be the same. But I agree that having a comparable car between the both would be nice.
Or are you talking about getting your car tuned at both locations?

I think he is referring to the people tuning them more so than the machine they are on. In my opinion given that they are the same machine basically, I will wager the difference will be whomever can tune cars better will have the better numbers.

Especially with DSMs and some Imports, they aren't the easyest thing to tune by any means.

I know Shane can get every ounce of power out a most cars, its been proven.

niterydr 03-01-2006 10:26 AM

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That could be fun :).

scheides 03-01-2006 11:07 AM

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That could be fun :).

Well, we could make it really interresting by having one team tune it on their dyno, keep all equal and drive over to the other dyno, see if the numbers are comparable, and then reset everything, and let that team see if they can get similar numbers (keeping the two tunes secret from the other).

I will volunteer my car for this challenge if everyone is up for it. I have a PLX wideband unit installed already, but I only have an S-AFC right now. I have DSMlink on the mind, and have an ecu socketed and ready to go. So if we were to do this, I'd skip the S-AFC bullshit and see some real tuning action on dsmlink.

Would the various organizations be possibly willing to donate dyno and tuner time? Otherwise I'll throw down for the whole event if everyone is willing. We'll document the whole event with video for those that can't attend, and I'll host the finished product.

Shane@DBPerformance 03-01-2006 11:18 AM

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Great choice on hiring Shane, he is a very well respected tuner thru-out the import and Minnesota scene in general.

I am co-owner of the shop now.

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I think he is referring to the people tuning them more so than the machine they are on. In my opinion given that they are the same machine basically, I will wager the difference will be whomever can tune cars better will have the better numbers.

I usually don't try to push cars to the absolute edge though. I would rather give up 5 or 10 whp instead of having the car blow up when a little bad gas gets in the tank or some other variable changes. Things aren't too bad to control on a DSM though, it isn't like most turbos Hondas that have no usable knock sensor to try to save the motor if something goes wrong down the road. A lot of the turbos cars I deal will have at least 1 cylinder go into detonation before MBT is reached, so you can't rely on there being any sort of window between max torque and detonation onset, like you can with an NA car.

niterydr 03-01-2006 12:15 PM

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I am co-owner of the shop now.

Awesome news!

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I usually don't try to push cars to the absolute edge though. I would rather give up 5 or 10 whp instead of having the car blow up when a little bad gas gets in the tank or some other variable changes. Things aren't too bad to control on a DSM though, it isn't like most turbos Hondas that have no usable knock sensor to try to save the motor if something goes wrong down the road. A lot of the turbos cars I deal will have at least 1 cylinder go into detonation before MBT is reached, so you can't rely on there being any sort of window between max torque and detonation onset, like you can with an NA car.

I agree, its not worth pushing a car to the absolute limit unless its in a very controlled environment with support (aka track car).

Goat Blower 03-01-2006 02:49 PM

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Good, now I don't have to keep a secret anymore. Having too many speed shops around is like having too many hookers wanting to ride you tough. (Slightly modified from my favorite quote on NABR.) Congrats boys.

Outlaw1 03-01-2006 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Super4x4Duty
I have a dumb question.

Why do you work on DSM's? Why wouldn't you work on all kinds of performance cars? Isn't there a large base of GM and Ford guys around?

Just askin'.

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Originally Posted by Ecoli
It's usually better to do one thing and do it well, then to be a jack of all trades and master of none. For me that means putting most of my effort into EFI tuning(I don't care import or domestic) and not trying to be a master engine builder, chassis/roll cage fabricator, etc. I build my own motors and some customer motors, but I never tried to push it on people and would give them other options with other shops.

There are already quite a few, well established Chevy and Ford performance shops in the area.

?

Shane@DBPerformance 03-01-2006 03:38 PM

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That is why we haven't done anything about the GM/Chevy tuning stuff. There are already a few good shops in town that do that. We also don't tune carburetors, we are EFI computer guys. We do and will work on Fords because DB Performance is already one of the well established Ford performance shops in town. We had a basic install that we did in an issue of Modified Mustangs a month ago. Dan worked at a Ford dealership before DB Performance turned into his fulltime job a few years ago. We have around $12,000 in just ECU tuning tools and hardware for Ford vehicles. I am adding my import tuning knowledge into the business and will continue to put a lot of my effort into EFI tuning. We have around $10,000 in tuning software and hardware for DSMs, Hondas, Subarus, and Evos. I will also continue to help people pick out the right parts like turbos, tuning systems, intercoolers, injectors, etc to hit their realistic goals. I won't be welding, Dan can do that. I won't be porting Honda heads, DPR can do that. If we want a nice fabbed Honda or DSM exhaust manifold, we will just talk to SLS.

tim 03-01-2006 07:49 PM

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Congrats fellas. Seems to be the best of both worlds.

tpunx99GSX 03-01-2006 11:53 PM

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I just find it crazy that especially in MN where the stangs and DSMs always had a huge rivalry that here is this new shop that specialises in both of them. LOL this could get pretty crazy, or could make a nice peaceful relationship between the car owners. LOL

Goat Blower 03-02-2006 12:39 AM

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Going fast is going fast. Who gives a shit what platform it's done in.


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