My friend is looking to get 3 sidemounts and have them welled and made into a front moutn? anyone know of a site with some more information at all? just wondering.

It's pretty simple, I am not sure what info he would need.

Jacek did that (a member of this site). You can either pm him or maybe he'll see this.

A top-to-bottom-to-top-to-bottom frount mount... Nice! :uh:

yep i did make a top to bottom flow fmic. i looked at the way the diamond star specialties one tapers and just went to town, if you can get someone to weld it together go to town.

Are they just as efficient as a regular fmic?

Dejon Tool makes one out of 3 2G sidemounts.

http://www.dejontool.com/DSM-1g%20FIC.htm

DSM (2g ) Street Frontmount Intercooler

It is on the top of the page.

Two, not three.

the shitty part is that the core once made is 4.25" thick so you'll have to work around that power steering line that runs in from of your condenser or chop the bumper. i chose that power steering line.

Doh!

Hey did I see welding mentioned? Let me know if you need someone to weld it up/fab tanks or otherwise. I can do all that for you :banana:

geez raptor take it easy! lol

Never! :wacko:

sorry but id say that be kinda stupid of him. yes it would cool more cuz its up in front but still doesnt solve the fact the ig fmic doesnt flow worth crap. why not try it with supra smic's or just custom make a fmic with a searco core those are cheap off ebay.....

who cares.. i made my own. i guess im stupid

It's not stupid...My friend paid $200 for his entire car, and now that it is running he wants to make it fast and not spend $1000 on a FMIC...The stock side mounts actually flow pretty well, but are not large enough to support the kind of airflow you see from a larger turbo. Granted they are not race intercoolers, but considering the relocation and doubled size it is well worth it.

Why would a fairly well known shop fabricate and sell them if they made no difference?

Chris Carey

BTW ~ I have a supra smic on my car, and if I had the choice between this and the two sidemounts in the front, I would definately go with the front sidemounts...Just my opinion though!

Where did you get the endtanks to make 2 or 3 stock SMIC work? And you have a price on one? or a link would be nice...

never mind

1000 for a custom fmic i think not. you can get a very nice big core for 400 bucks and piping would only be 100-200 bucks just get the pipes and bring them to a exhuast place and have them weld it for you. can be done cheaper if you buy used parts and such.

1G sidemounts as a front mount work very well when done correctly. Nothing wrong with going that direction. Peter, end tanks can be custom made easily by any decent fabricator. RDlaser, don't forget you have to have end tanks made for that spearco core as well and just any exhaust shop isn't going to be able to weld the alluminum for those tanks much less have them able to stand up to pressure. Having exhaust shops do your intercooling piping means MIG welding and not nearly as nice a quality of welds. Unless you can TIG well and have the equpiment or can borrow it, have a competent race or welding shop do the welding and fabricating. The cost difference won't be much higher for a completely different level of quality.

Please don't listen to Mr. Ghetto Fabulous here, I wouldn't trust an exhaust shop to make a decent exhaust for my car, let along intercooler piping that will need to hold high preasure levels. Completely different welding techniques need to be used for IC piping and exhaust piping. Try preasurizing an exhaust sysyem to 25+ PSI and watch it blow every weld (VPE style yo).

The 2G stock cores are the best to use for a custom FMIC setup since they are a bit more efficient. 1G cores are probably easier and cheaper to get ahold of though.

Please don't listen to Mr. Ghetto Fabulous here, I wouldn't trust an exhaust shop to make a decent exhaust for my car, let along intercooler piping that will need to hold high preasure levels. Completely different welding techniques need to be used for IC piping and exhaust piping. Try preasurizing an exhaust sysyem to 25+ PSI and watch it blow every weld (VPE style yo). [/b][/quote]
im saying most places do have good welders there and probably could do it very well. im not saying having them make the piping either you get the piping and either weld it yourself or have a good welder do it. the spearco intercoolers i am talking about come with end tanks. go check them out on ebay i know a couple people that use them and are very statisfied.

The 1G cores at better, the 2G cores are smaller. The only thing good about the 2G cores are the larger inlet/outlet pipe, which you would be cutting off anyways.

Oops, I got the 2 mixed up...for some reason I was thinking that the 1G had the better endtanks and the 2G got the better core.

yeah maybe you should read more and play with your "bunchies" less..eh?...EH?? :stick:

:bj: one man team, huh Chris?

I would hope your not refering to Dejon? IMO their products suck. Idk how those flanges they use seal and not warp when they weld to them, in that perspective now you see how they came up w/ the idea of using SMIC's for FMIC's. What do they care if their products suck or not, they dont have to use them :P .

Nick

Once again, IMO i would take the supra SMIC over 2 DSM SMIC's as a FMIC. Supra SMIC's have been proven to support 600+ whp on supra's and the worthless DSM SMIC's cant even support the measly 14b. Seems like a no brainer there, but what do i know :uh: .

Nick

How about this? If you are willing to spend $400+ on buying the intercooler/s and $200 on custom piping, why not just spend a couple of hundred more and get the GReddy 24R FMIC? :idea:

Or a buschur race kit....

or the supra sidemount i'm trying to sell

I wouldn't go as far to say that Dejon's product sucks, but it is deffinately lower quality than other higher priced kits (there is a reason why they are cheaper than everyone else). I would personally never run an intercooler or intercooling piping from Dejon since they use such thin flanges that have been know to have sealing issues. I personally think a few extra dollars is worth paying for 3x thickness flanges. As far as intake piping goes though, you really can't beat Dejon since they offer such a wide variety of pipes to fit a wide variety of setups. Another thing about Dejon, don't use them if you are trying to make a "show car", their powdercoating is low quality...just enough to get the job done. Please nobody take this as me dogging Dejon b/c that is not my intention, I am only stating my opinion. For those on a budget (aren't we all) Dejon is deffinately a good company to look for a wide variety of products from.

If you look @ all the variety of intake they have, 75% of them are completly pointless designs. All you need would be 2.5"(small turbo's), 3" (large turbo's, 2G MAS), 3.5" (GM MAS), and 4" (TSO4 compressor). All the rest are some very ugly designs.
I will agree w/ their powdercoating, i looked @ some examples of their woprk some vendors had on display and was not very impressed.

Nick

...i dont think dejon tool power coats there stuff. i think they just spray paint it. i once had a dejon tool uicp blow throw gm maf one i ended up selling it cause i really didnt like it now looking for someone else to make me one. as for buying the greddy 24r i thought we were talking about 1g's here

Dejon Tool powdercoats, not paints. Not the best quality, but oh well.

Are we? Nobody has said yet what kind of car this is going on.

Well the topic says 1g FMIC in it... but never really focused on what car.

My point exactly

Either way quit being a cheap ass and buy a FMIC.

By the time you got done ghettoing 1G SMIC's together w/ piping for an extra few dollars you could more than likely have a nice bolt on piece. IMO its not worth the hassle. Why take 1 POS and combine it w/ a few more to make a big POS?

Nick