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Murlo26 04-03-2010 10:21 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
New clutch/flywheel/cmc are in now. It feels very good. Still working on normal driving it. Rowed through the gears a bit to see how it was and that feels awesome.

I really dig the 6 puck...gonna take some getting used to though. The chatter is very minimal.



Problem though...either my boost gauge stopped working while at DB or I am only boosting 22psi now :?:

I had to go pick my wheel lock up at DB today and Danny and I boost leak tested it and it held 30psi with no leaks. Soooo, very confused now. Before my gauge never went below like 26 which agreed with the dyno plot at wot after spool. Now it never goes above 23-24:(

Shane said the new WGA could be affecting the car since the X is load based. So maybe DB fixed another IC pipe leak or something and I am in different load cells...who knows. Time to go back to the dyno soon i guess.

4g63tcrazy 04-03-2010 10:38 PM

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Good to hear on the clutch! Once it's broken in you wont get anymore chatter. I know I love my 6 puck. I would try swapping out the boost gauge with a different one just to make sure. Before you spend the money for another dyno tune.

Murlo26 04-03-2010 10:44 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4g63tcrazy (Post 332571)
Good to hear on the clutch! Once it's broken in you wont get anymore chatter. I know I love my 6 puck. I would try swapping out the boost gauge with a different one just to make sure. Before you spend the money for another dyno tune.


I am planning on getting another gauge soon since mine maxes at 30psi and i am running more than that.

However, I was planning on a retune in a few weeks regardless since I now have a good clutch in that can take some more torque...upping the boost to 33ish and hopefully with my new wastegate we could get some more power.

Murlo26 04-04-2010 04:40 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Here is the stock clutch/flywheel combo out...doesn't look terrible. I am really liking the 6 puck..still getting used to the stiffness but if feels great.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/PIC_0009.jpghttp://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/PIC_0010.jpg

goodhart 04-04-2010 10:01 PM

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haha, looks like that clutch and flywheel seen some heat!

LingLing 04-04-2010 10:26 PM

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Holy heat batman! 6 pucks are great. Easy to DD but holds the power when you need it. I've had them on all my manual transmission cars and have never had one fail me.

Murlo26 04-05-2010 12:26 AM

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I am digging the 6 puck for sure...I will likely go with another one when the time calls for it...but we will see, still early to tell.

There was some heat there for sure, lots of hot spots. But the clutch was still holding when i took it out.

Now i just need to find out what is up with my boost.

mlomker 04-05-2010 02:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 332799)
Now i just need to find out what is up with my boost.

Shane put it in 'new clutch' mode when you weren't looking. :rollinglaugh:

Murlo26 04-05-2010 02:58 PM

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Damn, he is so sneaky:)

Murlo26 04-06-2010 06:48 PM

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Hmmm...so my wheel/tire combo didn't fit, lol.

Well it did, but couldn't turn enough to where i would feel comfortable driving up front...need negative camber.

Any recommendations of somewhere i can go, like over lunch where they could set me up with some negative camber?

Is this an easy task to do, or extensive? I would prefer not to have jeff the alignment guy do this since i will need him after all is said and done and would prefer to just do this once.

However, the wheels looked badass, i should've snapped a pic. Tires are the sex too.

Matt D. 04-06-2010 07:04 PM

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If the X front suspension is the same as or similar to the VIII-IX all you need to do is loosen up the two bolts holding the strut to the steering knuckle, then flip the top bolt 180 degrees. When tightening it back up you push the knuckle and struts inward toward the car and that will get you as much camber as possible out of the front suspension. Keep in mind this will cause you to gain a little toe in.

mlomker 04-06-2010 07:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 333164)
all you need to do is loosen up the two bolts holding the strut to the steering knuckle

yup. same same.

Murlo26 04-06-2010 07:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 333164)
If the X front suspension is the same as or similar to the VIII-IX all you need to do is loosen up the two bolts holding the strut to the steering knuckle, then flip the top bolt 180 degrees. When tightening it back up you push the knuckle and struts inward toward the car and that will get you as much camber as possible out of the front suspension. Keep in mind this will cause you to gain a little toe in.

I would need to run with this kind of toe in anyway with my aggressive wheel setup right? I mean there isn't any getting around that i assume?

scheides 04-06-2010 07:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 333164)
If the X front suspension is the same as or similar to the VIII-IX all you need to do is loosen up the two bolts holding the strut to the steering knuckle, then flip the top bolt 180 degrees. When tightening it back up you push the knuckle and struts inward toward the car and that will get you as much camber as possible out of the front suspension. Keep in mind this will cause you to gain a little toe in.

this. take off a wheel and take a look, it's pretty obvious which bolts, there's two big ones. 17mm IIRC, mayyybe 19 (on the CT9A anyways). If you absolutely can't figure it out, give me a call and stop over. We can do it in about 20 mins. 651.236.0985

Murlo26 04-06-2010 07:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 333174)
this. take off a wheel and take a look, it's pretty obvious which bolts, there's two big ones. 17mm IIRC, mayyybe 19 (on the CT9A anyways). If you absolutely can't figure it out, give me a call and stop over. We can do it in about 20 mins. 651.236.0985

Hmmm, well maybe I will stop by sometime, you free tomorrow or Thursday?

I really do need to get my own tools, or start gathering some. A torque wrench is very necessary.

Would this http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...orque+Wrenches and a set of bigger metric 3/4" sockets be all i would need to do this job?

Perhaps I can watch the first time, then next time I can do it myself, or have you guide me the first time.

t-revzr 04-06-2010 07:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 333175)
Hmmm, well maybe I will stop by sometime, you free tomorrow or Thursday?

I really do need to get my own tools, or start gathering some. A torque wrench is very necessary.

Would this http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...orque+Wrenches and a set of bigger metric 3/4" sockets be all i would need to do this job?

Perhaps I can watch the first time, then next time I can do it myself, or have you guide me the first time.

You never watched me when I was doin them at Scheides the other weekend? It's a walk in the park!

scheides 04-06-2010 08:10 PM

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Tomorrow by like 7 or Thursday would would work. Watch? Lol you can turn the second wrench :). One on each side is best.

Murlo26 04-06-2010 08:24 PM

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^Yea i watched, lol, but i guess i am only really worried about torquing shit down. Don't wanna overtorque anything or under for that matter and have something back out.

I am a puss when it comes to doing something new, but once i have done something and feel comfortable i fly through it.

I'll give you a call tomorrow scheides. I guess I will head over a little after i get off work.

So i am guessing i will need an alignment after this for sure? Will it hurt to drive on it for a week or two until i can get one? I guess it is irrelevant since i will probably do it anyway, but figured i would ask.

Kracka 04-06-2010 08:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 333175)
Would this http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...orque+Wrenches and a set of bigger metric 3/4" sockets be all i would need to do this job?

Thats too small, that torque wrench is 3/8" and in in/lbs, you'll want a 1/2" drive in ft/lbs for doing suspension and wheels.
This is the one I have: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...orque+Wrenches
As a note, Craftsman doesn't have a lifetime warranty on their tq wrenches but I've had mine since 2002 and it still works perfectly.

scheides 04-06-2010 09:19 PM

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I have that same torque wrench, as does my neighbor, very reliable as long as you make sure to back it off to zero after you're done using it every time.

Murlo don't worry about over-torquing these bolts, we'll use a torque wrench but a little extra gutentight is usually dandy :)

Kracka 04-06-2010 09:22 PM

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Murlo, just so you aren't confused, Scheides is referring to the wrench I linked, not the one you linked.

Matt D. 04-06-2010 10:41 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 333187)
So i am guessing i will need an alignment after this for sure? Will it hurt to drive on it for a week or two until i can get one? I guess it is irrelevant since i will probably do it anyway, but figured i would ask.

You'll be fine for a couple weeks. Only when alignment is several degrees off in both camber and toe will severe tire wear occur in a short amount of time.

Murlo26 04-06-2010 11:00 PM

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Cool, good news on the alignment. Kracka, ya that's what i thought, i will get the one you linked, maybe tomorrow if i am feeling crazy. I need to be able to take wheels off for installs anyway. Mind as well get the shit needed to do it.

Thanks all for the help, and i will call you tomorrow scheides, probably on my way over.

scheides 04-07-2010 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 333216)

Thanks all for the help, and i will call you tomorrow scheides, probably on my way over.

What time do you wanna come? I'll get home a bit after 5, going to take the pups for a walk, then we can get crankin. Wanna roll out to OC afterwards? Meet starts at 8.

Murlo26 04-07-2010 01:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 333278)
What time do you wanna come? I'll get home a bit after 5, going to take the pups for a walk, then we can get crankin. Wanna roll out to OC afterwards? Meet starts at 8.

What's OC? I'd probably be down though, at least for a little bit. I have some other stuff I need to do tonight so I won't be able to stay too long.

I was thinking about leaving my place around 6:30ish so be to your place at 7pm. I am going to stop at Sears after work and buy a torque wrench for future endeavors and i will bring it along too.

Kracka 04-07-2010 01:36 PM

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OC = Old Chicago

Murlo26 04-07-2010 01:37 PM

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Ah, is that a weekly meet then or something? I have never been.

Kracka 04-07-2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 333287)
Ah, is that a weekly meet then or something? I have never been.

http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17507

scheides 04-07-2010 04:20 PM

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Yup, Old Chicago. Try and get to my house before 7, I'd like to leave about 730 to roll over there for food and such.

Address:
http://tinyurl.com/newb-mod-day-at-scheides-woot

Murlo26 04-07-2010 04:27 PM

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Sounds good i will get there a bit before 7 then.

Murlo26 04-07-2010 08:31 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Well thank you Scheides!!!! He showed me the in's and out's quick with moving the camber bolt, now i have a little more negative camber the new wheels should fit nicely hopefully.

Thanks Scheides, you are the man...now comes Fender rolling this weekend hopefully :eek:

Stay tuned, pics tomorrow of rims on.

t-revzr 04-07-2010 09:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 333347)
Well thank you Scheides!!!! He showed me the in's and out's quick with moving the camber bolt, now i have a little more negative camber the new wheels should fit nicely hopefully.

Thanks Scheides, you are the man...now comes Fender rolling this weekend hopefully :eek:

Stay tuned, pics tomorrow of rims on.

Awesome! excited to see the pics!
You 2 figure out the other issue with the car?

Murlo26 04-07-2010 10:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by t-revzr (Post 333349)
Awesome! excited to see the pics!
You 2 figure out the other issue with the car?

Nope we didn't try, just a quick camber adjustment and I took off, Scheides went to OC meet.

Car is going back to the rollers next Thursday though. Have the new WGA on, new spark plugs, my new synapse bov and summer tires. I want to crack 430whp (might have to do valve springs and rev it out for that but i can hope). I want 430whp because that is 500whp dynojet territory.

t-revzr 04-07-2010 10:36 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 333371)
Nope we didn't try, just a quick camber adjustment and I took off, Scheides went to OC meet.

Car is going back to the rollers next Thursday though. Have the new WGA on, new spark plugs, my new synapse bov and summer tires. I want to crack 430whp (might have to do valve springs and rev it out for that but i can hope). I want 430whp because that is 500whp dynojet territory.

Ok awesome! I will be on the rollers Wednesday. I hope it goes good for both of us! We both need to break 430 whp lol!!!

Murlo26 04-07-2010 10:57 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
^Did you fix your car? Didn't you have a bent valve or something?

You are going to be on there with the black still right? I think you just need to make black power and you will love the turbo. I would hate it too with extra spool and no extra top end. Once you figure it out i think you will like it.

scheides 04-08-2010 09:10 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Yee haw! Was a quick job, bolts came out easy and went back in fine. We're doing trevor's lifter's on sunday night @ my place.

mlomker 04-08-2010 09:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 333437)
We're doing trevor's lifter's on sunday night @ my place.

Ah, hopefully that's the problem then.

Murlo26 04-08-2010 09:56 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
So lifters are the supposed problem? Do you think he has any valve issues?

Murlo26 04-08-2010 08:56 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Still needs work, still hits the front of the inner liner when turning a bunch, clears the back now...

Need to roll the fronts and the rears and then drop this monster truck, lol.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/PIC_0013.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/PIC_0014.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/PIC_0016.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/PIC_0017.jpg

Constant_Project21 04-08-2010 08:58 PM

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Damn, that's a lot of tire!! Haha. Looks good, does look a little monster truck like though haha.


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