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93gtpeater 10-02-2011 11:09 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Nice job. Wish I could made it out to the track. I want to go auto now. What are your plans now for the car?

C3L1CA 10-02-2011 01:23 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Congrats dude!

95tsi 10-02-2011 04:37 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Nice work!!! Same trap speed I have just a few tenths quicker. Very nice!!

scheides 10-02-2011 05:26 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Holy shit! Automagic has earned its name! Nice work buddy.

turbotalon1g 10-02-2011 05:35 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Thanks dudes. ^Actually big man, that's the thing it really didn't seem to do a lot of magic.
Made me quite confused.

It pretty much looks like my old 16G 5 spd car, slower 60' but quicker 1/8th mile and .3 quicker, if i would of turned on some NLTS i know i could of done 11.4

I think with suspension and maybe better track prep, a better 60' will be had along with some solid low 11s.

Plans you ask? Get the car to run consistently, fix all leaks and clean her up.
Mods wise?

suspension
brakes
SMIM
Restalled converter maybe
Speakers
Ideally finally build a damn motor for one of these cars, but being out of FT work who knows.

I think we should try and do a style track day next year like a track rental.

jrohner 10-02-2011 10:34 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Did you play with your timing at all trying to get up on the converter?

Goat Blower 10-02-2011 11:33 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Damn, nice work Brown! That's exactly what my car trapped with the old 20G setup I had back in the day but with a half second shaved off my times. Auto is looking better every day.

turbotalon1g 10-03-2011 09:55 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Yeah I messed with timing and fuel.

munchgsx 10-14-2011 10:39 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd1ZOhukix8&hd=1

turbotalon1g 10-14-2011 10:50 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Thanks big man.

I can't wait to go and do it again! I need more injector though so I can run more boost and not worry about fuel.
I'm thinking FIC 1680s will be all i need for quite a few years.

Murlo26 10-14-2011 10:52 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
They don't make the 1680's anymore. I think Scheides is selling his set though as he bought some 2200's.

edit: great run though, very impressive.

awd-drifter 10-14-2011 11:23 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
incredible man. good time and trap!

turbotalon1g 11-03-2011 09:48 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Not too much to update, a lot of changes are happening with me right now so no time but to just drive and enjoy it.

I did pick up a 3-port solenoid for boost control and some Deutsch DT connectors to wire it up with, I also have a gear display box that should be here soon.

Watched munchgsx run a 11.29@119, so i know that the suspension is holding me back and maybe the weight a bit. I think he cut 1.61 60fts to my 1.79s or worse.

So this reinforced my goals for a 10.99 next year with more boost and a SMIM.
Next big purchase should be injectors hopefully by spring, apart from that I should just be cleaning up misc. small things I don't like with the car, oh and I need to get some real speakers and a sub for the car I miss having a nice stereo in it.

Tachyon 11-03-2011 10:07 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 395160)
the suspension is holding me back

I picked up several 10ths going from wore out stock suspension to a Koni Yellow + GC Coilover setup. 450/325 lbs per inch F/R and the car is so much flatter on the shifts, I wish I'd done it years ago...

Not sure if it's going to make as much of a difference on an auto, however.

Halon 11-03-2011 10:27 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Automagic got pwned by the Voy.

turbotalon1g 11-03-2011 11:20 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tachyon (Post 395164)
I picked up several 10ths going from wore out stock suspension to a Koni Yellow + GC Coilover setup. 450/325 lbs per inch F/R and the car is so much flatter on the shifts, I wish I'd done it years ago...

Not sure if it's going to make as much of a difference on an auto, however.

Watch the vid, the car noses up pretty hard initially and that's where I'm losing the most time. I wish they still made that setup, hell I wish I could of seen it I don't know much about the GC setup at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 395165)
Automagic got pwned by the Voy.

Y did u have to post this. :aikido:

I'm just glad it wasn't on video, i knew what was happening as soon as you kicked it down, you must have too much torks!!! :drive: lol

Tachyon 11-03-2011 01:03 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 395169)
Watch the vid, the car noses up pretty hard initially and that's where I'm losing the most time. I wish they still made that setup, hell I wish I could of seen it I don't know much about the GC setup at all.

I did, and she squats a bit on the launch. But imagine that happening with every shift ;)

Since Koni discontinued the rear shocks for the 1g I was forced to use the 2g's (only for the rears). It's virtually the same shock - the bottom bolts right up and you use the 1g rear top-hats to complete the assembly. The only factor is the shock is physically 2" shorter than the 1g rear, but this is not an issue if you are lowering with the GC's.

Overall, I could not be happier with this setup. The car is very flat when it needs to be, but the ride is still very good with no bouncing on normal pavement.

turbotalon1g 11-06-2011 10:32 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Well the day is here, car will be put into storage mode. Which really doesn't mean much for me other than no more random/fun drives with the car.

Took it out last night and I got whooped by a 2.3 FP green evo on 23psi (430whp DJ) and a 125 mph V8 nitrous car, I did smoke a low boost turbo V8 mustang though.

I've sold the injectors out of my car and if this local kid can stop being a flake I'll have the 1200s i have sold. With it being winter and me moving I'm going to just throw some stock injectors in there so I can move the car to its new home, which will most likely be heated and inside so I can go sit in it and clean it up whenever I want to.

With that said car has been pretty reliable even for how much is unknown about it, I do want to setup a better crankcase evac system for it however.

List of winter plans:
better evac system
switch to SD or have sensors in place to.
Hookup all gauges (FP & EGT)
Oil cap gasket (I always forget until i drive the damn thing!)
ratchet shifter
install gear display
finally will be to buy injectors most likely FIC Hi-Z 2150s in the spring assuming that I can.
I should do suspension, but I have to do a lot of research for that

cmspaz 11-06-2011 11:19 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 395280)
Took it out last night and I got whooped by a 2.3 FP green evo on 23psi (430whp DJ)

430 DJ, that's it? There's conservative, and then there's wasting your money... Most of our stock turbo son E85 guys are around there, lol.

turbotalon1g 11-06-2011 05:50 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
^Anything else to spout your wisdom about?
Like my power box that wasn't the cause of my fuel pump issue?

I don't think most of your STS homies are at 430 on 23 psi, but please try again.

cmspaz 11-06-2011 09:54 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 395289)
I don't think most of your STS homies are at 430 on 23 psi, but please try again.

I think you missed the point, which was that if he only wanted to make 430 he could have saved himself the cost of the turbo and build to do it. If you're going to drop that dough, you might as well turn the boost up a bit and make it worthwhile instead of being a fucking pussy.

scheides 11-06-2011 10:14 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
I made ~430whp @ MAP with my BBK on pump gas...maybe said car isn't lucky enough to get corn...just like my car back then. It sucked, but then again that's why I added an alky kit :D

Shane@DBPerformance 11-07-2011 03:03 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
An old FP Green is only good for 10-30whp more than a stock Evo 9 turbo, so even if it wasn't at low boost/conservative/etc it isn't going to have a lot of room to grow. If he has the HTA version, he would have some room to grow. A 2.3l isn't going to make a maxed out turbo make any more power either than it would with the 2.0l.

turbotalon1g 11-07-2011 03:39 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
The stock 9 BOV was leaking and there was issues with the dyno so he took it home for the weekend.

They will be turning it up and trying to break 500whp which should be doable.

Looks like I might have my nitrous kit sold too, so no juice for me :O(

turbotalon1g 12-10-2011 11:58 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Well I haven't really done much with the 'ol girl for a long time.

But I sold my FIC 950s and threw in the RC1200s that I have up for sale, they run good but with all the good weather (no salt & 40s) I got itching to drive the car again so I did.

Moved to her new home on my friends driveway, and he said that it can go inside so this weekend hopefully she will be in and I can make some progress.

I have FF OFH to go in, gear display, 3-port solenoid for boost control via link. Then I will just be trying to fix small leaks and installing parts I've had laying around for a while, like the ES bushing kit I've had for about 6 yrs.

Sorry for the lame update, I'll try to have pics up next time.

C3L1CA 12-10-2011 01:47 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
What color shift display did you get? I kind of want to get one as well but wanted the orange and he's out of stock last I checked.

turbotalon1g 12-10-2011 02:20 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
I got blue, its my favorite color.

turbotalon1g 03-25-2012 11:46 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
wow, I didn't realize it has been so long since I updated this.
But the car sat on the driveway till about middle of jan, then I had to push it inside because I sold all the injectors I had.
I decided to sell things I didn't need or that needed to be changed that's why the injectors were sold.

I sold my wideband and got a plx m300, evo 8 steering wheel, vacuum pump, along with those other parts above.

Right now the car is apart a bit, I need to install all the mentioned items, I pulled off the FMIC and cleaned up the install, I need to do some painting so the metal doesn't rust.
I need a new radiator since my the lower 2-3 inches of it is corroded to hell.

Basically I need to get the car back together asap, and buy injectors. I also picked up a new t-case from a guy on link, he had it rebuilt and it only has a few thousand miles on it.

I'll make a newer update with pics of my mess.

turbotalon1g 04-06-2012 10:04 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Ok finally a worthy update.

During feb. after removing parts, I finally got to installing parts, well part.
Like these:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...61485359_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...94378926_n.jpg

Look familiar? Same ones as I had on my old car:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...96516671_n.jpg
All done, i missed these. Opening a DSM hood with a latch was weird to me.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...13933914_n.jpg

Cleaned up my FMIC install a bit and layed down some primer, the car looked bad because you could see partial white paint thru the fog light holes so I took this time to take care of that.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...74781336_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...32376738_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...84812792_n.jpg
All done, it will look so much better and not so junky.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...31671567_n.jpg

4/6/10- Losing a bit of my virginity here, doing this I will get a chance to install a HG and headstuds the right way, instead of one by one.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...59789146_n.jpg

I was pushing coolant as usual, as I have in almost all of my cars that basically made enough power to overcome ARPs. I actually got used to this and thought it was somewhat normal.

HG on motor:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...23475942_n.jpg

Back of the motor, you can see on the drivers side where oil was leaking down.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...13336550_n.jpg

I just realized basically every corner of the HG was leaking.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...91200497_n.jpg

Old crusty head, has rusty coolant ports:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...64065503_n.jpg

As she sits, All done for the night 4/6/12
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...16656952_n.jpg

I guess now I need to check the block for straightness, I'm gonna throw on a 2G head I have laying around.
I have FFH to put on the car, I also took the '90 OFH off the car tonight. But I'm gonna wait and make sure the block is good before I reassemble any part of the motor.
I also got most of the PLX installed, just need to hook up wires.

I'm trying to make progress so i can make proving grounds, but to be honest it will be damn close if the everything is good, if not I'm probably done for the year. We will see, I'm hopeful.

Constant_Project21 04-06-2012 10:39 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Hope you get it all finished before PG, I know it was close last year as well.

scheides 04-06-2012 11:49 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Keep movin bud! I wanna see this thing rip it this summer!

Murlo26 04-06-2012 11:51 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Nice, solid progress. keep rocking!

FattyBoomBatty 04-07-2012 12:08 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
How soon 'til it's done?

Halon 04-07-2012 01:02 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Lookin good. If u need a hand tomorrow during the day gimme a call.

turbotalon1g 04-07-2012 08:50 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 403605)
Nice, solid progress. keep rocking!

Thanks, I'm trying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty (Post 403610)
How soon 'til it's done?

Hell if i know, if I have the time then I don't have the money, and if I have a little money then i certainly don't have the time.
A lot of things I wanted to do myself and you can all give your opinion on this, but maybe I'm being ignorant about it.
Example, I have active toe elims and they aren't in the car because I wanted to be the one to put them in, now I don't feel my welding skills are up to snuff for something like this so they aren't in. I do know plenty of people that would weld these in and other things for me but instead I just put it off. I don't know at this point, i do know it sucks having things sit here or be crappy like my exhaust.
Driving, it needs HG, injectors, swap T-case and I should be driving it, oh and tune of course for injectors and new head and such.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 403615)
Lookin good. If u need a hand tomorrow during the day gimme a call.

For sure, I should be out there in the afternoon say about 2ish.

carltalon 04-07-2012 12:43 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Nice work. What is your plan for a intake on the 2g head? you should throw some cams in while the head is off nows the time. get that thing together I need some street action .

turbotalon1g 04-07-2012 01:14 PM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carltalon (Post 403645)
Nice work. What is your plan for a intake on the 2g head? you should throw some cams in while the head is off nows the time. get that thing together I need some street action .

I have a stock 2G intake attached to a 2G head I got from desolate on here, it should be ready to just throw on, but we will see.

Cams, I don't have $$$ for and in my quest to buy things once I will just get cams once I build a motor, plus cam swaps are stupid easy the right way. 30mins maybe?

Hopefully I'll get some more done today, we will see though I have to go out in a bit here.

JET 04-08-2012 01:01 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Once you get it running then head over here and we can weld up your toe elim's.

C3L1CA 04-08-2012 03:12 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
Nice progress! Keep up the good work!

turbotalon1g 04-08-2012 11:41 AM

Re: Big Brown's Automagic - The last episode in my DSM story.
 
4/7/12:
Didn't do a lot to the car, well kinda. Today Jesse cleaned up the garage and I helped while working on the car, it feels a lot nicer and like things move a lot quicker out there.

Anywho yesterday I forgot to add something that I found when I pulled the head:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...60211295_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...42227722_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...83804397_n.jpg

Well I'm not sure how the car felt about that or how long it was like that, it couldn't of been too long actually, 1 because I didn't really drive the car that much last year and 2 I'm pretty sure that I pulled it sometime last year.

Anyway, I'm in need of an insert.

I also found a great deal on what is easily the best susp. setup for a 1g under $1600, Koni yellows with GC coilovers loaded with eibach springs, helper springs and torrington bearings for the helpers. So I pulled my stock susp. yesterday too.
No more monster truck/4x4!!!

I also painted the top core support, here is before and after:
Before:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...16656952_n.jpg
After:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...13160843_n.jpg


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