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evotuner 07-07-2013 12:45 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Nice work their man

carltalon 04-25-2014 04:55 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
I haven't updated this in a while. Over the winter I had the transmission out to replace the forward drum and clutch pack the were bad. Yesterday I took the car out to test the transmission so that I could trust the car for some longer drives this weekend. I drove it around for a while and the transmission was working great. I went into town and put in $20 in fresh E85. I took some nice backroads home and was getting on it pretty good coming out of corners. the car felt pretty good so I made a 2nd gear pull. it pulled good till close to redline when the check engine light flashed. I knew I was getting some knock so I let off. I stopped at a stop sign so I desided to log a pull and see what was up. I turned the corner and floored it. As soon as the turbo spooled it went BOOOM!!!
I'll let the pictures tell the rest of the story.

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I'm not sure where I'm going from here. I will be looking for a replacement engine, but I haven't decided if I'll go fully built or just another stock 2g 7bolt. It will probly come down to what is available for what I can afford.

DSMINMN 04-25-2014 05:44 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
That's too bad man.

Dark2g 04-25-2014 06:18 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
That sucks bad man. I have a 0 mile on build 7
Bolt short block if u are interested. Willing to sell for very good price.
New rings and acl race bearings, h beams and mahle pistons

TkrPerformance 04-25-2014 06:35 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Shitty

Halon 04-25-2014 07:50 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Sucks man :( If it were me I'd probably just find another 7-bolt and throw it in. Seems like the simplest, cheapest, quickest way to get it back out so you can atleast enjoy it this summer.

carltalon 04-25-2014 09:10 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 443839)
Sucks man :( If it were me I'd probably just find another 7-bolt and throw it in. Seems like the simplest, cheapest, quickest way to get it back out so you can atleast enjoy it this summer.

That is kinda what I'm leaning towards right now. But we'll see what I can find. A

goodhart 04-26-2014 12:24 AM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Lame. It will be interesting to see what exactly made it fail

C3L1CA 04-26-2014 09:55 AM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Sucks to hear! Hope you get it back on the road quickly!

dsmreck 04-26-2014 09:01 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
buy the one dark2g has. sweet deal

carltalon 04-26-2014 09:53 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmreck (Post 443851)
buy the one dark2g has. sweet deal

It's looking like that is what's going to happen. If my head is salvageable it will be back up and running pretty quick.

JET 04-26-2014 10:21 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Give me a yell if it is not ok Carl, I have a freshly rebuild head here on a 2g. Crower springs and retainers (could take those off), 5 angle valve job.

carltalon 04-26-2014 10:26 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JET (Post 443853)
Give me a yell if it is not ok Carl, I have a freshly rebuild head here on a 2g. Crower springs and retainers (could take those off), 5 angle valve job.

Thanks JET. It blew the #2 Rod but for some reason when I tried to take the spark plugs out the #3 plug turns 1/2 a turn then gets tight so I'm afraid something bad happened in the #3 cylinder.

dsmreck 04-26-2014 10:28 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
damn that sucks. can you post the log file?

carltalon 04-26-2014 10:32 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
I was logging at the time but after it blew I turned the key off and slammed the laptop closed. Here's what it says when I try to open the log. under statement to say the least.

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...pspppaznfd.jpg

Halon 04-26-2014 11:36 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdyC1BrQd6g&hd=1

scheides 04-28-2014 07:03 AM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Ugh, suck dude :( I wonder wtf happened.

Shane@DBPerformance 04-28-2014 11:22 AM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Typical 7-bolt rodwalk.

dsmreck 04-29-2014 12:31 AM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
sounded like he was knocking like crazy. wonder if the flex fuel sensor is a good upgrade?

wow that sounds obvious. call me captain reads and posts

turbotalon1g 04-29-2014 04:55 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
^Don't take my title!

lol.

So did you pick up the replacement motor yet?

carltalon 04-29-2014 05:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 443906)
^Don't take my title!

lol.

So did you pick up the replacement motor yet?

I'm thinking I'll pick it up this weekend. Want to road trip?

scheides 04-29-2014 06:02 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 443906)
So did you pick up the replacement motor yet?

Did you get your car running yet? Who do you guys think you are, Leasure? :D

turbotalon1g 04-29-2014 07:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carltalon (Post 443907)
I'm thinking I'll pick it up this weekend. Want to road trip?

I'm back to work this weekend. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 443910)
Did you get your car running yet? Who do you guys think you are, Leasure? :D

Nope, got other things going on.
Soon, hopefully in time for the end of the monsoon.

Mark Leasure 04-29-2014 07:59 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 443910)
Did you get your car running yet? Who do you guys think you are, Leasure? :D

Love it, street credit.

In all seriousness, good deal to get it back on the road. Not enough DSM around anymore.

Goat Blower 04-29-2014 11:12 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
True that.

turbotalon1g 04-30-2014 03:32 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Leasure (Post 443914)
Love it, street credit.

In all seriousness, good deal to get it back on the road. Not enough clean/solid DSMs around anymore.

Fix.t :hehe:

carltalon 05-06-2014 07:04 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
On Saturday my daughter and I made the drive up to Grand Rapids to buy the Built short block from Dark2g. The motor looks great. He and his friends were really cool and have a nice shop to work out of. it was really nice meeting you guys.

Yesterday I finally got the old motor out of the car, and disassembled. Its not good so far I think the only parts I've found that are reusable are the cams, oil pickup tube, and the piece that goes around the rear main seal.

So at this point I'm in need of
2G head
front cover / oil pump
oil pan
baffle plate

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dsmreck 05-06-2014 07:19 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
we agree fun meeting you as well. I will take a look in the garage tomorrow and see if we have any parts to help you out for sure. I assume andre had an oil pan to give you. idk i'll deff check though. Also I would not feel comfortable reusing the pickup tube but thats me. I also hope the tubo is ok.

carltalon 05-06-2014 07:43 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmreck (Post 444261)
we agree fun meeting you as well. I will take a look in the garage tomorrow and see if we have any parts to help you out for sure. I assume andre had an oil pan to give you. idk i'll deff check though. Also I would not feel comfortable reusing the pickup tube but thats me. I also hope the tubo is ok.

Thanks. If I do reuse the pick up it will be cleaned multiple times. The turbo exhaust inlet had a lot of stuff in it from the cylinder that the valve broke. The wheels look fine and there is no shaft play but I will probly have it rebuilt just to make sure its good to go.

turbotalon1g 05-06-2014 08:15 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
God that's a lot of destruction for a 16G car.

carltalon 05-06-2014 08:27 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 444269)
God that's a lot of destruction for a 16G car.

It was a hell of a 16g car considering the weight. I think the destruction would have been less. But when the rod broke it took out the rear balance shaft. When that happened the oil pump locked up and took out the timing belt destroying the head.

Halon 05-06-2014 08:32 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Excellent carnage photos, thanks for sharing :)

DSMINMN 05-06-2014 10:41 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Hawt damn that thing went hard!

19TsiAwd90 05-06-2014 11:12 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
that is impressive.

19TsiAwd90 05-06-2014 11:13 PM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
that is impressive.

TkrPerformance 05-07-2014 07:03 AM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Wow that ate if self good.

I have a new oem pan with a 10an fitting welded on and a few baffle plates.

scheides 05-07-2014 08:23 AM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Holy epic carnage pics batman! Thank you for sharing!

My favorite part is the rod impressions on the baffle bolted under the crank, you can see how it just bounced bounced bounced its way across there and then kabam out the side of the pan :D

Goat Blower 05-07-2014 08:26 AM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
If you're going to break something, do it big. I think you win. :D

dsmreck 05-08-2014 10:21 AM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
Gstracer on tuners has a front case and oil pump for sale

Goat Blower 05-08-2014 11:15 AM

Re: Carl's 98 auto AWD project Black Magic
 
If it's the one at $325, you can get it brand new from WB Mitsu for less than that with the discount.


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