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Super Bleeder!! 06-30-2010 10:12 AM

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O NOEZ ACT CLUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JK :)

scheides 06-30-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 1QUICK4 (Post 347119)
Damn man, it looks like you guys got alot done yesterday. Looks like you don't need my help after all :D

Honestly, my goal was to have the trans out and flywheel getting machined by friday. I'm super happy with the progress!

A//// Guy 06-30-2010 10:15 AM

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Dang dude, not fun! Why didnt you wait for the weekend? Just rent a cheap car for the week haha.

mlomker 06-30-2010 10:15 AM

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Damn impressed, as always.

Murlo26 06-30-2010 11:03 AM

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ACT 6 puck ftw! I love mine...from what I remember.

I am not sure if the diff pins are in my tranny yet or not, but you could call Danny at DB and ask how much they were to install, i am not even sure yet.

SSP also just released their new MC since their old ones were having problems. The new one is a single piece and doesn't use stock components any more like the old one did. I never had problems, but didn't have much use on mine.

So just some things to think about...personally I would do the MC for sure and if you plan to beat on the car more, then I would just do the diff pins while the trans is out.

But your own labor is free, so maybe it's not such a big deal to do it yet.

scheides 06-30-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 347123)
Dang dude, not fun! Why didnt you wait for the weekend? Just rent a cheap car for the week haha.

Wrench on a holiday weekend? Bah! I plan on drinking and relaxing with family :)

I think I'm going to skip the master cylinder for now and just plan on replacing it down the road. If it explodes on me, well I guess I didn't replace it soon enough :) I'm on a tight-ass budget for this, not only monetarily, but also time-wise. I have interviews, work, and family/friend stuff to do nonstop this summer, I just want the car done and put it behind me.

I'm investigating the diff pin thing today. I don't plan on pulling this thing apart for a long time, so I'm considering it.

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 347124)
Damn impressed, as always.

Thx man, couldn't have done it w/o help.

scheides 06-30-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 1QUICK4 (Post 347119)
Damn man, it looks like you guys got alot done yesterday. Looks like you don't need my help after all :D

Flywheel is getting machined today, I'll be in touch :) Many hands makes light work.

mlomker 06-30-2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 347139)
I would do the MC for sure and if you plan to beat on the car more, then I would just do the diff pins while the trans is out.

With all the problems that people had with that SSP master cylinder, I'm glad that I'm still on the stocker. It obviously hasn't burst yet. At this point in time, a IX conversion seems safer if you're going to do anything.

scheides 06-30-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 347147)
With all the problems that people had with that SSP master cylinder, I'm glad that I'm still on the stocker. It obviously hasn't burst yet. At this point in time, a IX conversion seems safer if you're going to do anything.

Did you do that AMS ring or anything? or just rocking 100% stock MC? I like the idea of an IX conversion, that is on my list of things to research.

rose0529 06-30-2010 11:34 AM

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Looking good sir! Sounds like a ton of work, but def a big savings!

mlomker 06-30-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 347148)
Did you do that AMS ring or anything? or just rocking 100% stock MC?

The rings don't work, so I'm stock. It's the Exedys that always break the MC. The ACT HD plates are more hit-n-miss. The IX conversion involves notching the firewall but otherwise doesn't look too bad.

simulatedwood 06-30-2010 12:01 PM

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Nice work scheides... I am loving the homemade transmission jack. That is great!

The ugraded IX MC looks like a great idea "if" the stocker fails. As for the diff pins, I heard great results with welding them in place or don't even break the tranny seal. :)

Murlo26 06-30-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 347152)
The rings don't work, so I'm stock. It's the Exedys that always break the MC. The ACT HD plates are more hit-n-miss. The IX conversion involves notching the firewall but otherwise doesn't look too bad.

The SSP works fine and they are shipping me one this week. The problem with the last one was they didn't replace the spring from the stock MC and reused it in their upgraded one and it wore out. So the new one is a full unit that is supposed to be perfect, i guess we will find out, ill be rocking it.

turbotalon1g 06-30-2010 12:05 PM

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Nice work, could of called this mofo.

Kracka 06-30-2010 12:08 PM

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Anyone else look into Ralliart's metal clutch master cylinder offering?

Murlo26 06-30-2010 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 347164)
Anyone else look into Ralliart's metal clutch master cylinder offering?

All the information I have seen shows that it will not fit the USDM one.

There is a thread on EvoXforums about it and AMI customs (who partners with SSP for their MC) insists that there is no way it would fit.

I wouldn't risk it unless I was absolutely sure it worked, but the part itself would be nice.

EDIT: I believe that the Ralliart piece was the same piece as the Evo 8/9 MC actually.

TalonFiero 06-30-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by simulatedwood (Post 347158)
Nice work scheides... I am loving the homemade transmission jack. That is great!

Those are my "special" transmission removal tools I use on every Mitsu clutch job I have done. It sure beats having many jacks underneath the car and you can lift on the wood and move the motor or tranny around.

It really helps when I do evo clutches by myself, it's like another set of hands.

All the credit should go to my brother though, back when he worked at Kennedy transmission that would be all they would use on every car. Build an "H" frame out of wood and suspend shit from it, no need to bolt it together.

Scheides, wish you had the clutch so we could get it done tonight!

TalonFiero 06-30-2010 12:46 PM

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Also, after working on Chris's car last night, it isn't nearly as rusty or in rough shape as I once thought from the earlier pictures. Everything came apart nicely and nothing looked rough and in bad shape. Car was just dirty dirty when he bought it.

scheides 06-30-2010 03:29 PM

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Shane just helped me make up my mind on the diff pins. $350-400 for install and turnaround is a day, meaning 1-3 days including coordinating me dropping off and such. Then, they don't have the pins, I'd have to get them from buschur for $190+ shipping + the 3-5 days it'd take, meaning another week before I can even think about my trans being ready. I detest downtime. Trans is going in as soon as the clutch comes in, thursday or friday as-is, with some redline fluid and a machined stock flywheel.

Luck is on my side, sorta. Met up with Jim this morning and he brought my flywheel down to Brake Warehouse to get turned, and Trevor is going to pick it up for me in the morning. If it works out, I'd like to get the trans and xfer case bolted up before the weekend, then just button it up myself when time allows. Should be back on the road early next week at the latest.

cmspaz 06-30-2010 03:50 PM

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Sounds like a good deal. Glad to see you just decided to go for it.

turbotalon1g 06-30-2010 04:12 PM

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Nice, you know this unemployed brown guy that can turn a wrench or at least eat donuts so if u need a hand.

TalonFiero 07-01-2010 05:25 PM

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New clutch is installed and Tranny is back on the car.

rose0529 07-01-2010 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TalonFiero (Post 347331)
New clutch is installed and Tranny is back on the car.

YAY! I stopped by to drop something off for scheides today, and I got there just as they were about to get the tranny bolted to the motor! Nice work guys! Good luck with getting the rest of it back together!

scheides 07-01-2010 11:58 PM

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I have some amazing friends. I hope someday I can pay them back for this. Before I left work today, I got this pic from Trevor:

http://i.imgur.com/zjuqr.jpg

when I got home, the tranny was on. I was elated! I could have cried I was so happy, except for all the rest of the work left to do sobered me up quick. Aaron came by and helped me thank god, cause don't forget who's writing this--I suck at wrenching :). We spent a good hour wrestling with two motor mounts, then got the transfer case on and trevor came back to help us button up the axles and suspension, and a bunch of other little stuff. 11pm curfew imposed by Anna, so I'll probably button it up tomorrow.

Rosey, it was too dark to see your little project, I'll take pics of it tomorrow! I gotta be at work at 7am. :(

A//// Guy 07-02-2010 08:31 AM

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Nice work!

turbotalon1g 07-02-2010 11:28 AM

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I hope all you X owners replace those shitty motor mounts if you ever pull the trans/motor out what a pita.

Murlo26 07-02-2010 11:33 AM

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I haven't touched mine yet..maybe i should buy some for my new motor...wasn't planning on it though.

Are they they hard to change later?

scheides 07-02-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 347396)
I hope all you X owners replace those shitty motor mounts if you ever pull the trans/motor out what a pita.

Fuck that! They were a PITA to reinstall but my ass and non-vibrating dash loves them :) I am a firm believer in a mildly upgraded front motor mount and stock side and rear mounts, plenty of performance there at most (normal-ish) power levels.

Thanks again for your help aaron! Sorry the mounts were such bitches. We worked them though!

turbotalon1g 07-02-2010 11:48 AM

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^lol, I am the same way, that is how they are in my talon.

mlomker 07-02-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 347397)
I haven't touched mine yet..maybe i should buy some for my new motor...wasn't planning on it though.

Can't say I'd recommend it. My car feels fine at cruise but in the 4k rpm range the buzzing makes you feel like the car is coming apart.

scheides 07-02-2010 12:07 PM

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^I still have your stock rear mount if you want :)

Kracka 07-02-2010 12:36 PM

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I definitely wouldn't do anything more than just a front engine mount for a street car. I did all 4 on a DSM and regretted it. The Evo X for me is all about no-regrets modding, which is why I ordered a new catback a few days after installing this current one. On every modded car prior to this I've done something that makes the car not as fun to daily-drive and I want to make sure that doesn't happen again.

TkrPerformance 07-02-2010 01:08 PM

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way to go. would have helped out but I am trying to get the evo 1 swap done and had to do a engine swap on a honda.

engine mounts are all up to who dives the car. I cant stand to have stock mounts in my cars they all have to have all 4 polly mounts and the evo has them and will get an alum front rollstop so the turbo stops rocking into the radiator

mlomker 07-02-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 347405)
I still have your stock rear mount if you want

Meh, the Boomba mounts are pretty. I just wouldn't do it a second time.

Super Bleeder!! 07-02-2010 01:18 PM

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vibrations are fun in a weekend car, not a daily.

scheides 07-02-2010 07:04 PM

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Buttoned everything up a few hours ago! She leaked a bit out of the driver's side axle, but a quick tap with a hammer got it fully seated and seems to have stopped it. Took the car around the block a few times and a bunch of first gear/reverse starts and it seems 100% perfect. I'll drive it a bit more tomorrow, taking Anna to the casino to blow off some steam and start off the holiday weekend right. :)

ready for more real mods now!

scheides 07-03-2010 12:52 PM

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I snapped a pic when I got home thursday, I couldn't believe my eyes!

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX-...2897.sized.jpg

Like I said a few posts up, got everything nearly done thursday night, and ended up taking friday afternoon off and buttoning everything up. Let me tell you BeaterX fought me every step of the way.

Anna helped us the last 15 minutes with a whip was jonsen' us with some harsh words to hurry the eff up! (You can see how happy she is)
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX-...2900.sized.jpg

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX-...2903.sized.jpg

I got home pretty late last night, but this morning I woke up, checked out that leak and she looks dry as a bone. Put about 20 miles on it this morning and it feels fantastic! I'm taking it easy but still in shock that just a few days ago I was planning on limping this thing for a few weeks until someone could do this for me :D

Pedal feel is a little heavier than stock, and its really grabby between shifts, and pretty damn smooth for a 6-puck leaving from a stop. The new redline Xcocktail (2xMTL 1xMT90) is smooth as buttah. Gonna get this thing broken in quick, cause beaterX is going to continue to be in for a beating :)

turbotalon1g 07-03-2010 03:00 PM

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Nice.

C3L1CA 07-03-2010 06:59 PM

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Nice job! Its gotta feel good to get it done yourself so quickly

scheides 07-03-2010 09:40 PM

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It sure does, but I couldn't have done it w/o my friends :)


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