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scheides 02-05-2010 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 322882)
Well, I was waiting to post anything up, but scheides kinda forced the hand.

Whatever punk, you mentioned UPS coming with your new turbo in the shoutbox multiple times, then were talking about it, blah blah blah....don't try so hard to pretend to be a wallflower when you know you're an attention-whore :P

C3L1CA 02-05-2010 09:18 AM

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Did you ever figure out the reving issue?

Thats a pretty cool turbo tho, hope you put it to good use!

Matt D. 02-05-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by At-Least-It's-An-Evo (Post 322947)
The 67 didn't want to spool on your car...like it does on other DSMs. Two words: hello lag.

Hello 1000RPM of usable powerband.

mlomker 02-05-2010 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 322961)
Hello 1000RPM of usable powerband.

I assume he's building the head for 9k rpm or somesuch.

A//// Guy 02-05-2010 10:19 AM

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Yea I dunno, big turbos are cool. But I would have stuck the money into fixing the ignition issues, and maybe a paint job. :D

I like having power for more than 2k rpm too. Just doesnt seem fun.

Matt D. 02-05-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 322964)
I assume he's building the head for 9k rpm or somesuch.

Even then I bet he has less than 3000 RPM of usable power, and as of right now he can't even get the car to rev past 8000.
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Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 322965)
I like having power for more than 2k rpm too. Just doesnt seem fun.

Low end power is for pussies.

turbotalon1g 02-05-2010 10:47 AM

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For drag racing he might need 2k of power.

scheides 02-05-2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 322964)
I assume he's building the head for 9k rpm or somesuch.

If you read back through this thread, this car has been plagued with a solid rev limit of like 7949rpm or something exact and he hasn't really been able to figure it out. I say put a hta68 on it and you have the perfect street car/drag brawler.

A//// Guy 02-05-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 322973)
For drag racing he might need 2k of power.

But hes never drag raced. haha

tpunx99GSX 02-05-2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 322977)
But hes never drag raced. haha

:wedgie:

Swifty1638 02-05-2010 12:33 PM

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We think the rev limiter issue has been fixed, as everything else has been looked over, ohmd, tested, etc. The valvesprings couldn't keep up with my cams, especially since they where not properly shimmed, but rather thrown into the head, like most of us would do.

Lag. I don't really care. I like the fact that it's laggy, in all honesty. Regular driving, the car is easy, like a honda, and when I want power, just downshift. You all act like it's soooo hard to find the powerband and drive in it.

Small ass turbos don't make the power I wish for. Plain and Simple. Who knows when I'll stop, but right now I am still working things out.

For a second there, I thought I was reading another swifty bashing thread, not a BUILD/PROJECT thread...;)

tpunx99GSX 02-05-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by swifty1638 (Post 322995)
lag. I don't really care. I like the fact that it's laggy, in all honesty. Regular driving, the car is easy, like a honda, and when i want power, just downshift. You all act like it's soooo hard to find the powerband and drive in it.

Small ass turbos don't make the power i wish for. Plain and simple. Who knows when i'll stop, but right now i am still working things out.

truf.

Matt D. 02-05-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 322995)
Small ass turbos don't make the power I wish for. Plain and Simple. Who knows when I'll stop, but right now I am still working things out.

You seem to constantly be working things out. When was the last time you stuck with a setup long enough to even attempt to achieve the maximum potential of that setup? Not hating, just calling it as I see it. You're kind of like a dog chasing a car, but you never catch the car because you start chasing another car that just passed you going the opposite direction.

turbotalon1g 02-05-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 322995)
We think the rev limiter issue has been fixed, as everything else has been looked over, ohmd, tested, etc. The valvesprings couldn't keep up with my cams, especially since they where not properly shimmed, but rather thrown into the head, like most of us would do.

Lag. I don't really care. I like the fact that it's laggy, in all honesty. Regular driving, the car is easy, like a honda, and when I want power, just downshift. You all act like it's soooo hard to find the powerband and drive in it.

Small ass turbos don't make the power I wish for. Plain and Simple. Who knows when I'll stop, but right now I am still working things out.

For a second there, I thought I was reading another swifty bashing thread, not a BUILD/PROJECT thread...;)


Please don't try to involve, group the rest of us in your failures. Most of us are not wanna be cool asshats. :KANE:

Swifty1638 02-05-2010 01:31 PM

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huh? I said not many people measure, check, and shim their valvesprings? Did you?

Shane@DBPerformance 02-05-2010 01:35 PM

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We do on all the valvesprings and valves we do on heads, unless someone really wants them thrown in ghetto/internetz style without removing the head.

Swifty1638 02-05-2010 01:37 PM

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Well then, I'm just a fuckup, and caused all my failures. I certainly HOPE this is the case! I know some springs/retainers you can throw in and not shim, other softer, or less strong ones you don't need to. The new ones I'm getting you don't need to.

Shane@DBPerformance 02-05-2010 01:49 PM

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If you aren't throwing a mild spring into a 100% stock head, then you should probably have the installed height, seat pressure, coil bind, retainer to valve guide seal clearance, etc checked. Having different valves or a valve job can throw things off.

Swifty1638 02-05-2010 01:53 PM

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Well, what about what I AM doing? 1mm oversized, otherwise stock porting, soda blasted so it's fresh and clean, and rau's beehive ferrera valvesprings, retainers, etc? He said he never shims his and doesn't have issues hitting 11,500rpms..I would hope i'd be ok to hit 9200?

mlomker 02-05-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 323029)
He said he never shims his and doesn't have issues hitting 11,500rpms..I would hope i'd be ok to hit 9200?

How often does he tear down the motor? When you cross the line from daily driver (perhaps a 10 sec car) into these beastly ranges then I'm sure a lot of things are done differently.

Swifty1638 02-05-2010 02:08 PM

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Motor is only torn down when it's needed. The motor that was in it this last year was the motor all year, and the head swapped once when we where in brainerd for the MCSO, atleast to my knowledge. Either Way, it seems the springs and retainers are more stout then the BC ones I had before..

scheides 02-05-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by swifty1638 (Post 323029)
..i would hope i'd be ok to hit 7900?

ftfy ;)

Matt D. 02-05-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 323036)
Either Way, it seems the springs and retainers are more stout then the BC ones I had before..

I have been advised by multiple shops to avoid BC springs due to premature fatigue.

Swifty1638 02-05-2010 03:16 PM

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Well, good thing I got rid of them then! I was cheap when I got them, just as I'm cheap now, but I keep thinking the things I am changing will help for the future. Be it the -an lines everywhere to prevent swelling/leaks/tears, or etc..

Matt D. 02-05-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 323057)
Well, good thing I got rid of them then! I was cheap when I got them, just as I'm cheap now, but I keep thinking the things I am changing will help for the future. Be it the -an lines everywhere to prevent swelling/leaks/tears, or etc..

I just purchased GSC beehives, they're similarly priced to the BCs but use stock retainers and you don't have to worry about the questionable quality that Brian Crower is know for.

Swifty1638 02-05-2010 03:24 PM

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hmm..You gonna shim yours though? I guess there's a lot more into it then I thought. Coil bind, valve seat cut, etc..

goodhart 02-05-2010 03:37 PM

Re: Swifty's never-ending project thread!
 
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Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 323029)
Well, what about what I AM doing? 1mm oversized, otherwise stock porting, soda blasted so it's fresh and clean, and rau's beehive ferrera valvesprings, retainers, etc? He said he never shims his and doesn't have issues hitting 11,500rpms..I would hope i'd be ok to hit 9200?

I think You mean Ferrea noob. lulz

Good luck with the new setup though, the head upgrades should help the revving issue. I'm thinking of going with the FP Beehives in my car, Shane had said the Kiggly beehives might be a bit too stiff of a spring for my setup.

turbotalon1g 02-05-2010 03:38 PM

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I don't know how to multi-quote, but.

You caused that fuckup where the alternator wasn't grounded probably last year.

And apparently shane puts in springs the right way by checking them unless they are mad sick yo and you want to pay him partially with taco bell, I heard something about "extra no meat" once upon a time.

My head I got from Munchgsx and well we know how he rolls.

scheides 02-05-2010 03:41 PM

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Please note the 'MQ' button, next to the 'quote' button ;) Click it on whatever posts you want to multi-quote, then click quote on the last one. You can do it in the order you'd like to quote them in, too.

Swifty1638 02-05-2010 03:41 PM

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lol, yea. The alt was grounded, it was a different wire that wasn't that I didn't know about. It was tucked down away from back when hort had the car. Either way, we all find things that are hacked and not the way it should be, and we fix it, right?

turbotalon1g 02-05-2010 03:43 PM

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fuck yeah I hate this car, I find hacked shit all the time still.

I wish I would of started with a stock car, but well I've had quite a journey with this one.

Swifty1638 02-05-2010 03:44 PM

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See? We all are there. Fuck it. Fuck cars. Just fix em, and try to go faster! :D

turbotalon1g 02-05-2010 03:45 PM

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Yeah, but nothing where my car didn't work. Just dumb shit that pisses me off.
Either way, whats left on this beast now?
Can we get pics of teh manifold?>

Swifty1638 02-05-2010 03:50 PM

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Manifold is currently in the works..I have pics of the collector somewhere..lol. I also have pics of his other work..lemme dig them up.

Swifty1638 02-05-2010 03:58 PM

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His pics:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...y38/ballin.jpg

A T4 mani he just is finishing up:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...8/DSCN1208.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...8/DSCN1199.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...8/DSCN1194.jpg

And the start of mine..

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...8/DSCN1188.jpg

I keep trying to get him to sign up on here, but he's a busy guy.

Matt D. 02-05-2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 323061)
hmm..You gonna shim yours though? I guess there's a lot more into it then I thought. Coil bind, valve seat cut, etc..

MAP will be building my head, so it will be at their mercy.

Swifty1638 02-19-2010 01:48 AM

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Progress pics of the mani so far..

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs169...._5106588_n.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._1466094_n.jpg
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs169...._7860430_n.jpg

Mocking and more test fitting tomorrow, then should be soon that I get it..

turbotalon1g 02-19-2010 07:31 AM

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Nice, what about the WGs?

Swifty1638 02-19-2010 10:08 AM

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Single wg..my old 38mm, with the dual springs. WG will be added last minute.

goodhart 02-19-2010 10:11 AM

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Where's the turbo already?


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