Re: My Talon
 

Here

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He said it was at 28psi with 18 peak timing.

Re: My Talon
 

Dat graf is sik yo!

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I just thought I'd make this power at a lower boost level, and that spool would be better.

Anyone have any thoughts? BAD boost leak?

Re: My Talon
 

You didn't boost leak check you're car before the dyno/tune??

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I'd check for boost leaks for sure. But you're also on a mitsu exh side right?

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Looks like the boost falls off up top a little on that run, maybe thats why you didn't make more horse powa y0. haha

Still some damn good numbers and has got to be a fun car!

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Yes, I did.

Ha, there was kinda a boost leak at what appeared/sounded like the turbo itself. I checked with soapy water, etc. I gave up and called it good.

If it was a bad boost leak, wouldn't we have noticed something on the dyno?

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Pretty sure the difference between our setups was turbo choice, and you have a SMIM.

But at like a few pounds less boost, you made more power and torque, and spooled faster.

What gives? Holset ftl?

Re: My Talon
 

I'd say more along the lines of FP and ball bearing FTW.
Still nothing to complain about. I'm on a 2.3 stroker and it took 27psi to make almost exactly those numbers. That isn't bad power for a 2.0 on 27psi, congrats.

Re: My Talon
 

Get us some dyno graphs and logs.

Also what you big boy using for injectors, i have a chance to upgrade my 950s.

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frick..I wish my graph looked like that!

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I'm happy with the car, it made the numbers I've always wanted, it's fun to drive, what more could I really want. I am content.

Re: My Talon
 

So when are you gonna get us a real dyno graph or some logs?

Re: My Talon
 

^Good question.

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Kevins car pulls really good, we ran a few times tonight with me at 22psi(I think I have a bad boost leak) I would pull on him till 4th and then he would pull on me.. He kept telling me to shift faster and I kept saying I dont have a shep tranny. It was a very good time.

Re: My Talon
 

lol. Nice. But at 22psi I thought you said you were only making 350whp.

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I think closer to 380-400 range, but alot more torque than kevin has.

Re: My Talon
 

If you had under 400tq when you were making 450hp, you'd have less tq if you're making less power. So your torque was probably a lot closer to mine then.

Re: My Talon
 

I had the best race of my life last weekend.

The organic disk isn't up to par, so a new ACT 6 puck ceramic sprung disk is going in.

New plugs and fuel filter on Sat, Rockfalls on Sunday.

I just got tie rod ends and ball joints, waiting on wheel bearings. Doing all that the following weekend.

The maybe a forsale sign? :p

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My 6 puck sprung with a 2900 held up real well tonight at 27psi on my new setup and pulled extremely hard so I think you should be good with your new disk.

Re: My Talon
 

Good results for the boost and stock intake manifold on a 2.0L. Hey what brand dyno was this on?

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Dyno dynamics, the heartbreaker.

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I can drive around right now and haul ass, my clutch doesn't slip. But when I did two launches/pulls immediately right after each other, it slipped the 2nd time.

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:) yep. what, is it, 18% lower than a DJ? 400hp / .82 = about 490hp on a dynojet.

Re: My Talon
 

I don't think it's that high?

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DynoJet reading 18% higher than DD != DD reads 82% of DynoJet.

400 * 1.18 = 472
400 * 1.16 = 464
(it seems a lot see between 16-18%, so between 460-470)

Good luck with the new clutch setup.

Re: My Talon
 

About 18% lower on DD puts you at 490hp. Click. 275.8hp on DJ. 224.7hp on a DD. And, 224.7 / .82 = 274hp. DJ read 275.8hp.

18% less than 100% = 82%

82% X dyno jet numbers = DD number

DDnumbers / .82 = dyno jet numbers

400hp / .82 = 490hp


Regardless, all the numbers are good. No biggie. 470whp is nice.

Re: My Talon
 

Enough math, where's the damn dyno sheet?

Re: My Talon
 

1 page back. That's where the 400hp number came from :p . 402hp, right?

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Don't be ghey, that's shane demonstrating his MS Paint skylz ;)

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Ah, I see you took the nasioc stats of DJ reads 21-22% higher than DD. Just personal experience I guess, I don't think we've seen quite that high between our two dynos here in Minneapolis. But another good reference.

+1 for a real dyno sheet!

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It looked funny. Why I asked which brand dyno :spin: . . .

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A DJ in SAE correction in AWD mode seems to around 15%-17% higher than our Dyno Dynamics. It's around 17%-20% for a DJ in STD mode depending on weather conditions. I am only talking AWD cars though. And it still depends on weather, strapping, how each dyno is run, etc.

There is a big difference in the math between saying X reads 18% higher than Y compared to saying Y is 18% lower than X. For example 550cc injectors are 22% bigger than 450cc, but 450cc are 18% smaller than 550cc.

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I was misinformed about the AWD vs. 2WD thing previously, but I think that's because I always talked to you crazy evo and dsm people!

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Hence, my link to the nasioc dyno results showing that a DD reads about 18% lower thana DJ. Not that a DJ reads 18% higher :) .

If a typical DJ reads 18% higher than your DD, then you're DD could read a little higher than other typical DDs. No big deal. Just an observation. All dydnos even of the same brand will read different by +/-2 to 3%

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I wouldn't try to compare a Subaru as directly though with the way that those ECUs control timing, they aren't the most consistant cars from one run to the next.

The numbers from a DD will depend on inertia settings and load settings and the numbers from a DJ will depend on the correction used SAE, STD, DIN, Uncorrected, etc and the smoothing factor used.

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Ah! I know just the silhouette of the scoobie platform. Makes sense. We can all agree the difference is over 17% however you want to do it. not bad. . . If the results are REAL ;). I'd like to see that dyno sheet too. Very interested in the curve shape.

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Well I emailed that guy above (Ecoli) to get my graph but no response haha. I GUESS I'll call DB just so I can get it emailed to me.

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Hey, just take a pic of your paper copies and uplaod the pics to photobucket or something. Easy enough.