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craig 09-18-2008 05:53 AM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
come on get over that 400 hump

turbotalon1g 09-18-2008 07:19 AM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
FP4rs? those things scare me.
Your engine size won't really determine how much boost you can run, but it will tap out the turbo quicker than a 2.0L because of the increase in gas.

polishmafia 09-18-2008 08:03 AM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Great numbers, Andrew. Congrats!

A//// Guy 09-18-2008 08:24 AM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Awesome! Finally.. haha!

Kracka 09-18-2008 09:32 AM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 256705)
FP4rs? those things scare me.

Why?

scheides 09-18-2008 09:50 AM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Indeed. As long as they can keep them in stock, these are the next HKS 272 (DSM) or HKS 280 (evo8) imho.

asshanson 09-18-2008 02:41 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Not sure about the Evo version, but for DSMs there are apparently super tight clearances required, the valve stem seat height needs to be exactly matched to stock spec, and you need a basic spring upgrade to rev to 8k or so. So with the aftermarket parts, you need to make sure everything is put back in at factory spec.

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig (Post 256703)
come on get over that 400 hump

Would be nice, but at least I know 3 or 4 of the pulls did make over 400.

Kracka 09-18-2008 02:47 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
After reading FP's site it does sound like the DSM 4/5R's are super picky about clearances, etc. The Evo ones were designed around the factory specs with enough clearance added into them to account for sub-par builds.

turbotalon1g 09-18-2008 04:11 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
^Thats why i am scared.

I might try the new hotness from down under, they look amazing.

asshanson 09-28-2008 09:02 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
465awhp and 390tq on a DynoJet, woot! I'll post the chart when I get it from MAP.

TkrPerformance 09-28-2008 09:18 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
also I got the pass side seat bracket made for craig's old seats he had in his 1g. Just have to make the drivers side tomorrow

asshanson 10-01-2008 09:50 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
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Got both seats installed thanks to Mark, here is a pic of just the passenger one in. They feel so much better than stock seats, the sides on the old ones were so worn out I just slid around on corners.

Kracka 10-01-2008 10:15 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
I like the new seats!

asshanson 10-01-2008 10:38 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
They are nice, just need to lower the driver-side bracket some, 2gs have such a low roof.

turbotalon1g 10-02-2008 12:01 AM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
sweet, seats are awesome.

polishmafia 10-02-2008 08:14 AM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Nice!

Halon 10-02-2008 12:22 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
titties like a woman

Swifty1638 03-04-2009 04:19 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
update!!!

tehehodi 03-04-2009 04:22 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
+1

with all the talk of overbore in the sb...i want to know whats going on..

Swifty1638 03-04-2009 04:23 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
pics or ban! colorful rainbow 2g-maker!

asshanson 03-04-2009 04:36 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
The other day I got a leakdown test. Compression was 160 +/- 3 across the board, with a loss of 9-14%, the middle two cylinders leaked the highest and had oil on the top of the pistons, which explains my huge oil burning issue.

Here is the plan for the next couple weeks:
Wednesday 3/11: Take off manifold/turbo/o2 housing, take them to Minneapolis with me and have them coated at MAP
Tuesday 3/17: Return to Iowa, remove head by Wednesday evening and have a local machine shop acquaintance check valve seals/guides, flatness, etc.
Saturday/Sunday 3/21-22: Have same guy come over with ball hone and ring filer, install new rings and bearings and hopefully get head back on and timing set by the end of the weekend.

I've never set timing before while the motor was in the car, I have no idea how to compress the tensioner, I need one of those screw thingys but I don't know how they work exactly.

Since the head and everything will be off, I'm debating deleting the ABS stuff since it should be pretty easy with that out of the way. I'll see if they have the parts at u-pull, or spend the $150 and get them all new from mitsu.

Shane@DBPerformance 03-04-2009 04:39 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Put the tensioner in a vise.

asshanson 03-04-2009 04:48 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Yea thats what I did before, used a c-clamp. How do I loosen everything then, undo the tensioner pulley? I don't have the tool to re-tension, maybe I'll borrow someone's when I'm up there next weekend.

Shane@DBPerformance 03-04-2009 04:53 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Just unbolt the tensioner or cut the timing belt or whatever. The hardest part will be when you need to re-tension it and get so that you can put the pin back in and out with it all set and tightened. It isn't an auto tensioner that you just pull the pin and let it expand.

Swifty1638 03-04-2009 04:58 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
you can borrow mine andrew.

cmspaz 03-04-2009 05:03 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Now aren't you glad I have connections down there?

asshanson 03-04-2009 05:05 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
This is true, I couldn't have done this until June or later otherwise. Swifty I'll look you up next weekend and get that.

scheides 03-04-2009 05:18 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Holy fuck dude, sounds intense. I have a tensioner tool as well, I'll trade you your dog for it ;) Of course, it's actually only 1/3 mine, the other 2/3 is hughes and zac, so you'll have to offer them something too :)

Kracka 03-04-2009 05:22 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Hmmmm what do I want....

Its the nice hardened AMS one.

turbotalon1g 03-04-2009 05:57 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
good luck man. I havent seen your car in years.

FattyBoomBatty 03-04-2009 11:00 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
I hate engine problems.

A//// Guy 03-04-2009 11:02 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
The only thing im wondering is how a motor with only a couple thousand miles has ruined rings already. Can a really bad break in process do this? I wouldn't think so but Im not sure.

asshanson 03-04-2009 11:24 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
If the rings never seated properly then it would always burn oil, plus it was gapped pretty loose from the beginning. It also sat on a garage floor for 3 years after the first 1000 miles, probably doesn't help.

cmspaz 03-04-2009 11:53 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
^Troof.

Not only was it a garage floor, it was a garage floor in Ames, Iowa.

Swifty1638 03-04-2009 11:58 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
didn't you see it last year at a dyno day aaron?

I also ponder if the rings really are bad..

-A. Swift

A//// Guy 03-05-2009 08:57 AM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
An engine sitting covered up and sitting for a couple years wouldnt have any effect on rings going bad. The only thing I could see happening from that is surface rust on the cylinders, which would be bad.

I suppose seating the rings could have been the issue. I just would think with all his experience with engines, he would know what to do with engine break in.

asshanson 03-05-2009 10:14 AM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Well, I guess what are the alternatives? A really bad leaking head? The car pushes a little coolant, but I've only filled it up once or twice in a year so thats not bad, so the headgasket isn't really blown. I just don't know what else it could be, lightly cracked block or something?

Symptoms:
1. 160 compression on 9.0:1 pistons - I'd expect 180-190
2. Burns 1qt oil every ~700 miles
3. Burns a TON of oil after a pull on decel or between gears
4. Crankcase pressurized, dipstick popped out once before I crushed the tube a bit
5. Ton of blowby into catch can, need to empty every oil change, also letting some oil into intake/turbo/piping

Swifty1638 03-05-2009 10:15 AM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
I guess that's just not something I'd guess at.

-A. Swift

asshanson 03-06-2009 08:06 PM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
Well shit. I don't think I can get the rings in time now since I have to return the wrong ones I ordered. Still waiting to hear back from Magnus on the exact specs that were ordered, I don't want to have to order them again.

Still taking off my turbo parts to be ceramic coated though, but the rering may have to wait until after the cruise.

FattyBoomBatty 03-07-2009 09:21 AM

Re: Make slowboy not so slow
 
I just want to throw this out there, but did you check all the valve stem seals and guides?


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