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scheides 04-04-2013 03:53 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Damn that looks hot. When you headed down to pick it up? Want to pick up my shortblock? :)

Murlo26 04-04-2013 07:10 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 427370)
Damn that looks hot. When you headed down to pick it up? Want to pick up my shortblock? :)

I was really hoping to pick it up tomorrow but I haven't heard squat so I am guessing that is out :(

I would assume next thursday/friday time frame. I will help you lift your shortblock into your car or you could load it into knoxvilles Tahoe if you want :) I am sure he would help ya out and we could haul it to your place.

scheides 04-04-2013 09:25 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 427381)
I was really hoping to pick it up tomorrow but I haven't heard squat so I am guessing that is out :(

I would assume next thursday/friday time frame. I will help you lift your shortblock into your car or you could load it into knoxvilles Tahoe if you want :) I am sure he would help ya out and we could haul it to your place.

Hell yea he can bring me back my helmet at the same time :D :D :D

Knoxville 04-04-2013 09:45 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 427393)
Hell yea he can bring me back my helmet at the same time :D :D :D

I told you that I would get it back to you on the cruise. If you need it sooner, just let me know.

I don't need the helmet anymore, but thanks for letting me use it!

http://i.imgur.com/IF86Mjc.jpg

Murlo26 04-04-2013 09:47 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 427393)
Hell yea he can bring me back my helmet at the same time :D :D :D

If you really do want to head to MAP with us let me know, its a haul from our area now so we don't go often haha. Just text me and I will text you when we plan on going. Figuring out how to secure it is the trick, but the tahoe should have room.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knoxville (Post 427397)
I told you that I would get it back to you on the cruise. If you need it sooner, just let me know.

I don't need the helmet anymore, but thanks for letting me use it!

http://i.imgur.com/IF86Mjc.jpg

Is that scheides' or your new one?

Knoxville 04-04-2013 09:48 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 427398)
Is that scheides' or your new one?

This is the new hotness

Murlo26 04-12-2013 10:41 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
More pics!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps56ba09ce.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps47a546d9.jpg

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http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps60752345.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps40c4cc42.jpg

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http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps30843e72.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps456e9512.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...pscb10f1b4.jpg

All installed and at home! Tuning coming soon :)

evotuner 04-12-2013 10:58 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Beautiful man, when will it hit dyno?

Murlo26 04-13-2013 01:06 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
No idea, month maybe.

Street tune first needed :)

scheides 04-13-2013 06:59 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Got to lay eyes on this thing last night and a nice long gentle cruise back to the city from MAP's new 'fortress of solitude.' I have to say this kit looks super nice end-to-end and MAP's new shop has transformed into something out of this world!

Car fires up and drives pretty nice for the rough scaling for the 2150s it has on it. With some work I'm sure it'll do just dandy. Good luck murlo!

Murlo26 04-13-2013 11:25 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 427867)
Got to lay eyes on this thing last night and a nice long gentle cruise back to the city from MAP's new 'fortress of solitude.' I have to say this kit looks super nice end-to-end and MAP's new shop has transformed into something out of this world!

Car fires up and drives pretty nice for the rough scaling for the 2150s it has on it. With some work I'm sure it'll do just dandy. Good luck murlo!

Thanks man! With some work it will purr I am sure :)

JET 04-13-2013 02:58 PM

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Looks very nice!

Murlo26 04-17-2013 12:59 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Well started tuning tonight, maybe went through 20-25 revision over 5-6 hours. Ugh, worn out after that and working all day.

Trying to get this turn ready for the cruise.

Well, went to start WOT testing...no bueno. LEAN as shit. The lean kind that basically points to a fuel pressure issue. Jon thinks I ruptured the in tank fuel hose, he said he has seen some cars do it 4 times before. So I am going to drive to work and around tomorrow to get the gas level low and pull the assembly.

If anyone is bored tomorrow, and wants to review my fuel setup with me to see if we can figure out WTF, feel free to drop by.

I will probably be home around 6pm and start playing with shit.

scheides 04-17-2013 07:14 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Where is it at power-wise, and how much boost? Seems odd to just have it split suddenly.

Shane@DBPerformance 04-17-2013 09:04 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
You should get a fuel pressure gauge on there, that is the second most useful gauge for tuning besides a wideband. It's easy to cover up fuel pressure issues in a tune on purpose or accident and hard tell when it's happening. More advanced standalones and many of the Ford ECUs use a fuel pressure input also to be able to modify fuel injector pulse width to compensate for non-linear fuel pressure problems.

Are you running a single or dual pump system now? What you are describing often happens when 1 pump in dual pump setup fails.

4seasons69 04-17-2013 09:38 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I had a similar issue happen last year when my alternator started dying on the dyno. Towards the top of a pull we would get a huge voltage drop that would cause fuel pressure to drop a lot.

Murlo26 04-17-2013 12:09 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Not running anything for power, getting into boost at 10psi it goes crazy lean and pop pop pop and backfiring, jolting etc.

I have a fuel pressure gauge in the engine bay, but not in the cabin.

I am running a single wally 400 e85 version hardwired to battery voltage now.

Found some oil and maybe coolant mixed in on my garage floor today :(

UGh...I don't know what the hell to do now...cruise readiness looking not good. Its coming from the passenger side of the car. at least that is where it is located under the car, who knows where its dripping from.

That coupled with unknown fuel pressure issues (we think), and then my boss yelling at me for even taking vacation for how busy we are and wondering why I am not working 50+ hour weeks...FUCK ME! Helluva week...

Shane, don't suppose there is a chance in hell you guys have an hour or two to help me look at this stuff this week? Tonight even? lol :) I have friday off for vacation and could stop by too. Just tossing it out there. I haz money to pay :)

Kracka 04-17-2013 12:22 PM

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Kizashi!!!

Murlo26 04-17-2013 12:24 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
That or the corvette maybe...

Evo is not ruled out yet, I aint going to give up til the last second. But its not going to be easy.

scheides 04-17-2013 12:33 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Boost leak test?

Murlo26 04-17-2013 12:35 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 428257)
Boost leak test?

What for? You mean to see if fuel pressure regulator is working or something?

I think my regulator is working, it changes fuel pressure when I pull the line to it.

asshanson 04-17-2013 01:17 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Do you have a hose with NPT fittings and you can run the mechanical gauge to the cabin through the hood and window or something? That's what I did when I was having fuel pressure problems in the Cadillac, mechanical gauge through the window.

I went to fastenal and made a 10 foot section of hose with NPT fittings for like $10, it was sweet and in the spirit of DSMs.

JET 04-17-2013 03:14 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Almost sounds like your fuel pressure isn't going up with boost too. AFPR is hooked up and working correctly?

Kracka 04-17-2013 03:20 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
You've bypassed the fuel pump relay, correct?

Murlo26 04-17-2013 03:21 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
So I did install the new fuel rail and FIC2150's a bit ago too.

So it could be something with that install, the in tank stuff or something clogged.

Yea, it sounds like fuel pressure isn't rising with boost. This thing feels like it wants to hit hard though lol :) Can't wait to get it working.

Good news...I scheduled time with MAP on Friday at 9AM to get leaks looked at and fixed then I am going to hit the dyno there I think for some troubleshooting. I was going to try DB since they are closer and try and do it before friday as I was hoping Friday could be a tuning day but I will try and get Jon working on it Friday while I am at MAP. I guess the good news is MAP should have a bunch of parts there if I need to replace or add anything.

Tonight I am going to install my SSP catch can instead of messing with anything else.

Murlo26 04-17-2013 03:22 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 428274)
You've bypassed the fuel pump relay, correct?

Pump is hardwired to batt voltage, so yes.

timschot 04-17-2013 03:58 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
It's not a big deal to pull the pump assembly out with the tank near full. You just spill a little gas on the ground. If you're careful and put a towel or something around it, you won't even do that.

That said, when I ruptured my in-tank line, it wouldn't even start. Mine was completely split in two though, perhaps yours just has a small hole.

Murlo26 04-17-2013 04:08 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I am not convinced its the in tank line, just something i have to check.

But my car starts HARD for sure. Like it struggles and needs gas pedal action every time.

But that could be tuning still, not sure.

I will get what I can done at MAP Friday. Anyone who wants to join me there let me know, could prolly use some help :)

Shane@DBPerformance 04-17-2013 07:06 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 428253)
Shane, don't suppose there is a chance in hell you guys have an hour or two to help me look at this stuff this week? Tonight even? lol :) I have friday off for vacation and could stop by too. Just tossing it out there. I haz money to pay :)

Sorry, I don't have time. I am booked on the dyno and then leaving on Friday at 6am for a race.

Does the car have a Fuel Lab regulator on it? I have had multiple failures with their FPRs and sometimes you can take them apart, then put them back together and they start working again, but I sure wouldn't trust an FPR that fixed itself like that. Your slightly broken fuel line idea makes sense though too, I have had many many cars with a fuel line leak for one reason or anything inside the tank and ran fine until some boost level.

Murlo26 04-18-2013 02:29 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance (Post 428290)
Sorry, I don't have time. I am booked on the dyno and then leaving on Friday at 6am for a race.

Does the car have a Fuel Lab regulator on it? I have had multiple failures with their FPRs and sometimes you can take them apart, then put them back together and they start working again, but I sure wouldn't trust an FPR that fixed itself like that. Your slightly broken fuel line idea makes sense though too, I have had many many cars with a fuel line leak for one reason or anything inside the tank and ran fine until some boost level.

Nope, AEM regulator.

Good thing MAP has openings I guess, sucks i have to drive a bit further but hopefully Friday is productive. Thanks Shane.

Wow, rough night tonight. Got my SSP catchcan installed. Started at 730, finished at 1am. That included a trip to Orieleys and Autozone for parts to plug my manifold spot that isnt used and also helping knoxville install his strut bar. Also some drinks, so not a terrible install, but kind of a PITA, I hate removing the front bumper.

Few pics:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps5fef5060.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...pscb90d340.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps7a8dfcc9.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps649bd70a.jpg

For whatever reason the car feels WAY smoother now, just from this. I am thinking I had some sort of an issue before, but this feels great now. Maybe I jarred something loose on install, but its feeling better now. Now if only I can figure out my fueling...

Ok, bed now, tired. Tomorrow pull fuel assembly.

edit: Oh, few issues on installing...One, there was no self tapping screw for the ground horn, I improvised. Pictures on install notes could've been more clear. Unless I missed something, I had to trim a plastic piece on the bumper (routes air to oil cooler) quite a bit aside from the necessary one attached to the bumper beam...it was hitting my catch can. Also the catch can needed to push against the AC line quite a bit to get into place. Not sure if that is from a motor install issue or what not but threw it all outta whack. Not huge issues but slowed me down for sure.

scheides 04-18-2013 06:58 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Looks good! Any chance you had some loose injector clips or something? Do the 2150s fit the stock plugs or do they have adapters? I had a bunch of issues when I got my 1680s but I had gotten them used and didn't have the latest adapters...FIC sent me new ones and no issues since.

Knoxville 04-18-2013 08:05 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Keep on wrenchin'!
http://i.imgur.com/cGbRWff.jpg

Halon 04-18-2013 09:18 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
So what about the coolant/oil mix you reported?

Murlo26 04-18-2013 10:51 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 428316)
Looks good! Any chance you had some loose injector clips or something? Do the 2150s fit the stock plugs or do they have adapters? I had a bunch of issues when I got my 1680s but I had gotten them used and didn't have the latest adapters...FIC sent me new ones and no issues since.

2150's are plug and play, no adapters. I am wondering if its something with the line from my fuel rail to my AFPR. It's a little bent/kinked now as it was too long since I switched fuel rails. It was setup for stock rail.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knoxville (Post 428322)

Indeed, long ass night last night. I am burnt out right now...way too late of a night. I did get Taco Bell on the way home that made me feel good :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 428326)
So what about the coolant/oil mix you reported?

It is just oil I think. I put a cardboard box under the car while at Knoxvilles (you can kinda see above) and it had maybe 10 drips on it after 6 hours. Oil level is still fine right now so its not significant.

I am heading to MAP friday morning to get it looked at and fixed.

Murlo26 04-18-2013 11:42 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I didn't work on the car at all tonight, too cold and can't drive it anywhere. I am hoping the roads are clear enough by mid morning, still going to try to head to MAP tomorrow morning.

4seasons69 04-19-2013 06:55 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 428428)
I didn't work on the car at all tonight, too cold and can't drive it anywhere. I am hoping the roads are clear enough by mid morning, still going to try to head to MAP tomorrow morning.

The roads weren't too bad on my own way into work this morning so you should be good to go.

turbotalon1g 04-19-2013 07:59 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Agreed, roads are basically wet.

Almost 6 hrs for a catch can install? god damn.

simulatedwood 04-19-2013 08:24 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Roads are ok, Side roads/ off ramps / city streets are coated with ice and slick. Main roads are getting better, Id say make the trek now there's very little traffic out there.

Murlo26 04-19-2013 09:40 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 428445)
Agreed, roads are basically wet.

Almost 6 hrs for a catch can install? god damn.

Yes, with a trip to two different stores to get parts and helping out knoxville. It's a gay install.

Murlo26 04-19-2013 10:38 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Went to MAP today, was there a good 6-7 hours. They found my oil leak, it was my turbo return oil line, the oring ripped on the part into the block. Problem fixed now! No more oil leak.

We also did some fuel testing today. We pulled my fuel pressure gauge out further on a line and drove, still had pressure. So we strapped it on the dyno and jon VPN'ed in and we played some. The car was starting very hard, barely going. We actually had to put a jumper unit on it. The car fired up and ran great with that on, so we think i have a bad battery and actually think that might be affecting my tune/injectors with low voltage on them.

With the battery jumper connected during a pull we were finally able to get a "full" pull in (only out to like 7300 for starters, not full really). And I am liking what I am seeing. This is with like no tuning still haha.

More to come :) We couldn't start the pull any lower as down low fuel is really not coming in, MAP tables are still off. So this thing spools fast!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...psac5316f6.jpg

600whp+ at 20psi if I rev it out to my normal redline I think :)


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