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Murlo26 03-18-2013 03:36 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
[QUOTE=cmspaz;426027][QUOTE=Murlo26;426021]YOLO!
Quote:

Remind me to punch you in the dick the next time I see you.
hmmm, pass?

cmspaz 03-18-2013 03:38 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
LOL

Halon 03-18-2013 05:32 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
FWIW I run a .91AR

JET 03-18-2013 06:20 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 426027)
Remind me to punch you in the dick the next time I see you.

I just got a new favorite saying at work!

Murlo26 03-18-2013 06:20 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 426037)
FWIW I run a .91AR

Is yours divided? Where do you hit 20psi?

URV8SUX 03-18-2013 06:35 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I ran a 1.32 divided housing on a 6765 few years ago it made 30psi by 6500rpm.

If you looking to get the most power of a 67mm there is better options than the PTE 6766.

Halon 03-18-2013 06:50 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Divided T4 yes. Borg Warner 61mm. Never ran 20psi through it yet. Hope to cross that road in the next few months. AR is just a ratio though, so it's kind of hard to compare different manufacturers housings just by the AR number alone.

Here is old post of mine showing some back to back tests on a 2.5L Subaru I believe, comparing two different BW turbos (60mm and 63mm) with two different exhaust housings (.91 and 1.0). You can see why I chose the .91.
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=62

But again, these are BW housings so not really apples to apples with PTE stuff. And remember AR is a ratio, there's more to it than just that number.

4seasons69 03-18-2013 07:38 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by URV8SUX (Post 426043)
I ran a 1.32 divided housing on a 6765 few years ago it made 30psi by 6500rpm.

If you looking to get the most power of a 67mm there is better options than the PTE 6766.

He's going to be running a 62mm. But you said this in my build thread and failed to produce any examples when I asked. Sure there are some that out flow 6766 but most 67mm turbos out there cost more.

The a/r is very subjective. Halon let me borrow his bw to test fit it on my talon. His exhaust housing is a .91 and when comparing it to the .98 housing off of my gt4294. Even though the a/rs are pretty close Halon's seemed quite a bit smaller.

I went with a 1.32a/r on my 6766 and it also looks smaller than the .98 of the gt42. Even though the a/r is quite a bit larger on the 6766 I can't imagine it will spool any slower that my gt42. I guess we'll find out soon.

Murlo26 03-18-2013 08:07 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Yea I wouldn't go with a 6766 if I was going that big, next step is the 6466 for me if I ever get there. The 6266 should keep me happy for this season and hopefully all of next. Plenty to do to the car that doesn't involve turbos after this upgrade.

URV8SUX 03-18-2013 08:15 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4seasons69 (Post 426046)
He's going to be running a 62mm. But you said this in my build thread and failed to produce any examples when I asked. Sure there are some that out flow 6766 but most 67mm turbos out there cost more.

The a/r is very subjective. Halon let me borrow his bw to test fit it on my talon. His exhaust housing is a .91 and when comparing it to the .98 housing off of my gt4294. Even though the a/rs are pretty close Halon's seemed quite a bit smaller.

I went with a 1.32a/r on my 6766 and it also looks smaller than the .98 of the gt42. Even though the a/r is quite a bit larger on the 6766 I can't imagine it will spool any slower that my gt42. I guess we'll find out soon.

Well since you failed to ask in your thread but now you did in this thread here you go!!!!

EXAMPLE#1 http://store.forcedperformance.net/m..._Code=Turbo-FP

EXAMPLE #2 http://www.full-race.com/store/borgw...sx3-turbo.html

EXAMPLE #3 http://www.precisionturbo.net/turboc...d-OGS-SFWD/500

Also BW has an 11 blade 67mm rated at 1000 or 1050 just can't find it......


Thanks!:bullrider:

For what its worth....
PTE 6765 with 1.32 housing at 34psi made 719whp @DB
BW 67mm with 1.10 at 35psi falling to 32psi made 785whp @DB
Same set up different turbos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 426050)
Yea I wouldn't go with a 6766 if I was going that big, next step is the 6466 for me if I ever get there. The 6266 should keep me happy for this season and hopefully all of next. Plenty to do to the car that doesn't involve turbos after this upgrade.

Sounds good!

4seasons69 03-18-2013 08:50 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by URV8SUX (Post 426051)
Well since you failed to ask in your thread but now you did in this thread here you go!!!!

EXAMPLE#1 http://store.forcedperformance.net/m..._Code=Turbo-FP

EXAMPLE #2 http://www.full-race.com/store/borgw...sx3-turbo.html

EXAMPLE #3 http://www.precisionturbo.net/turbochargers/class-legal/details/Class-Legal-Turbocharger---PT6785-CEAŽ-for-MIR-Super-Street--True-Street-and-OGS-SFWD/500

Also BW has an 11 blade 67mm rated at 1000 or 1050 just can't find it......



Thanks!:bullrider:

For what its worth....
PTE 6765 with 1.32 housing at 34psi made 719whp @DB
BW 67mm with 1.10 at 35psi falling to 32psi made 785whp @DB
Same set up different turbos.


Thats some good info! I'd like to see 700@db if I can. We'll see how the 6766 does. If I don't like it I'll run it this summer and go a different route next winter


Sounds good!

Actually I did ask in my thread. I was looking at that bw and fp. Those are gt42 framed sized turbos. I went with the 6766 based on boostin performance's recommendation to not go with a turbo that large for my goals for my car. They recommended the fp hta3794 or the 6766 (yes the 3794 also out performs the 6766). The 3794 is $2500. that bw and fp hta4294 are $1500 and that other pte one you posted is almost $4k. I went with the 6766 because it was $1050 new.

4seasons69 03-18-2013 08:51 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Sorry for the mini thread jack! I can't wait to see what your car does on the 6266!

bramagedained 03-18-2013 10:31 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
The 6466 sure fit nice behind the motor on the 3Dx Evo at Tx2k...

Left as gigantic image for effect.

http://i.imgur.com/cMtdeAs.jpg

evotuner 03-18-2013 11:28 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
bigger pic please

cmspaz 03-19-2013 09:16 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JET (Post 426041)
I just got a new favorite saying at work!

Walk into my cube and say that again... I dare you. ;)

Murlo26 03-22-2013 03:05 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Well, sounds like the new 6266 showed up today at MAP :) They are mocking it up now on a test engine outside the car. It is indeed the 1.0AR housing and after hearing this from Aaron at English Racing I feel pretty good about not going with the .84 A/R:

6466 testing (not quite what you are asking but similar)

2.3 VIII with a SMIM made 22psi at 4500 with a 1.15 vs 13psi at 4500 with the 0.82 T3

Volvo 2.5L we saw 34psi of backpressure at 27psi with the 0.84 TS. A more efficient Evo X would be even worse. Currently that same turbo went on a 2JZ (3.0L) in the same car with the 1.00 housing and was 13psi backpressure at 18psi of boost before we had to stop because of an injector issue.

It would be my opinion that the 1.15 is the best choice but since you are wanting more response than peak power I'd start with the 1.00. Worst case is you have to buy a new housing and then retune.


So he thinks even the 1.15 for the X but sounds like the 1.0 is a better choice for sure than the .84. So game on.

4seasons69 03-22-2013 03:13 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Good choice! Can't wait to see your results when it's finished!

Mark Leasure 03-22-2013 03:59 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
So why a T4 manifold on a 6266? I had good luck with the vband on mine, makes good power and spool is responsive, just my 2 cents. You will like the new power capability!

Murlo26 03-22-2013 04:02 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I debated vband, the AMS kit is vband and is pretty badass. But honestly from what I have seen the t4 twinscroll is even a bit better for response while still being able to dish out the top end.

Realistically, this all came together with the opportunity to work with MAP on making their new t4 twinscroll kit, so that is why I jumped onto it this year (was going to wait for another year of succesful motor running) but it was a good opportunity to jump into the non stock frame stuff which I have wanted for a while now.

Murlo26 03-27-2013 11:57 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Updates:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps9738f418.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...pse4772ecc.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps1cf25ab6.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...psc5371c36.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...psf13c217e.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps52ea7894.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps567dff8e.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...psa3346db4.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps708df1f6.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps708bb7a0.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps9e44dce1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps3be012c0.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...psf6ad2224.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...psf0f1834a.jpg

Looking good :)

4seasons69 03-27-2013 12:22 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Seen some of these pics on fb. Looks good!

Kracka 03-27-2013 12:28 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Are they going to wrap the manifold and use a turbo blanket on the housing?

goodhart 03-27-2013 12:30 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
INB4 Magnus claims they were the first to use that manifold design. ;)

Kracka 03-27-2013 12:32 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I'm sure Magnus will claim they invented turbochargers all together and that Mitsubishi Heavy ripped them off.

Murlo26 03-27-2013 12:41 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 426632)
Are they going to wrap the manifold and use a turbo blanket on the housing?

No wrap planned. Coating the manifold and hotside for sure. Undecided on what else.

Kracka 03-27-2013 12:42 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Melty melty :)

I vote to heatshield and wrap the hell out of that setup.

Murlo26 03-27-2013 12:47 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I have the firewall heat shield already.

Planning to wrap lines and some sensors too with heat tape.

Ill figure it out before I push it real hard.

93gtpeater 03-27-2013 12:49 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
So no cruise for you? I would wrap that shit. You can go wrong with wrapping something... Better safe than sorry. Hope you put down so good numbers so you can run some liter bikes

Murlo26 03-27-2013 12:52 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Nope, ill be there, at least on wastegate boost:) I just don't plan to beat the shit out of the car.

evotuner 03-27-2013 01:28 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 426634)
INB4 Magnus claims they were the first to use that manifold design. ;)

ROFL:spin:

Halon 03-27-2013 07:10 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Very nice. I 2nd the turbo blanket idea, but either way should be badass.

Murlo26 03-27-2013 09:16 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Adding the following after seeing everyones comments and talking with my tooner:

http://www.streettunedmotorsports.co...bo_blanket.htm

For oil feed/drain:

http://www.maperformance.com/dei-alu...l#.UVOoBFeTeKS

For wastegate lines:

http://www.maperformance.com/dei-fir...l#.UVOoLFeTeKR

And of course I am still getting the two coatings, on the manifold and hotside of the turbo. So the hotside of the turbo will be doubly covered.

scheides 03-27-2013 09:33 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
These are fantastic additions.

goodhart 03-27-2013 11:53 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I like it. Have you looked at PTP blankets?

Murlo26 04-01-2013 05:10 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 426738)
I like it. Have you looked at PTP blankets?

I have not, I already ordered the DEI one though, so maybe next time :)

I also got some of the gold tape for firewall buff up too, just in case. I think I have enough shit now, I hope :) Time will tell.

I am getting really pumped for this, I was hoping to have it ready for this weekend for cars and coffee but I think I am going to spectate instead.

I also want to get a mini fire extinguisher but not sure what to get and how to mount it.

Anyone have any ideas?

scheides 04-01-2013 10:52 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
They sell some at target. I keep one in my glove box at all times.

Murlo26 04-02-2013 12:38 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 427059)
They sell some at target. I keep one in my glove box at all times.

You have a Fire extinguisher in the glove box? Wow, that's a small one.

I was hoping for a mount that went under the passenger seat, anyone know of anything or maybe it's custom time.

goodhart 04-02-2013 08:04 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Wouldn't it being under the seat make it awfully tough to grab real quick? I would think you would want it in an easy to access place like glove box, center console, etc. If really needed, you would probably be needing it in a hurry.

scheides 04-02-2013 08:35 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 427075)
You have a Fire extinguisher in the glove box? Wow, that's a small one.

Yup, for automotive application. It's small but in the event of an emergency it'd be better than nothing or the random bottle of water/pop you might have in the car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 427082)
Wouldn't it being under the seat make it awfully tough to grab real quick? I would think you would want it in an easy to access place like glove box, center console, etc. If really needed, you would probably be needing it in a hurry.

This. Think easy access. I put mine in the glove box right near the doritos that I stock in case Anna gets hungry.

Murlo26 04-02-2013 09:52 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 427082)
Wouldn't it being under the seat make it awfully tough to grab real quick? I would think you would want it in an easy to access place like glove box, center console, etc. If really needed, you would probably be needing it in a hurry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 427089)
This. Think easy access. I put mine in the glove box right near the doritos that I stock in case Anna gets hungry.

This is what I was thinking of guys:

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/att...3&d=1308504392

Might have to do some custom stuff.


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