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lol, its true and I would like to make one, but auto-x > cruise.

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LOL, i don't blame people for thinking that, but it will be on the road for the spring cruise unless something catastrophic happens which I don't envision.

My initial plans are for a "true" 650whp at hopefully 25-26psi, not just a VD plot that says it, I think i am close with the EF4 but hard to say for sure.

Then if the setup is working well, I plan to shoot for 700whp pending my fuel pump scenario.

The T4 Twinscroll 6266 has a 1.0A/R and a few other bigger ones yet to try down the road too.
I am planning for sub 4k spool on this setup. The guy running a t4 TS 6466 is spooled by low 4k range on his with a 2.0L, I think the smaller A/R, smaller turbo and displacement will really spin this up fast. We will see though.

I am not trying to break a power record, that is why I went with the 6266 for now to keep myself from trying to do 900+ (for now lol).

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wat

The last autoX I went too I was so board that I left after only doing half my runs.

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That sucks. I've loved the 3 I went on.

Murlo that will be a crazy long powerband if does that. I'm interested in the top end on your car, it seems like these X's just keep on making power at the top of the RPM range.

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Cruises = 5-6 good solid hours of awesome driving, racing, eating, BSing, then get wasted and have awesome stories to tell.

Auto-X = stand there and watch other people drive for 6 hours, drive for 8 minutes, stand there for 6 more hours, drive for 8 minutes. Go home sunburned.

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Sums it up pretty nicely!

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Sub 4k spool to 25psi on a 2.2L with a 6266? Geebus those motors must have been made with gypsy tears, I think my 3.0L would barely do that.

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I will be happy with anything as good as my EF4 honestly, and I think that is possibly.

This guys t4 TS 6466 on a 2.0L has similar spool to my EF4

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/att...1&d=1360395062

So I have to imagine all the factors I listed will get me to 4k spool at least.

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With a good mix of lurking around listing to the endless stream of inane drivel based on internet forum group-think vs empirical data.

:)

Sorry to crap up your thread, Dave, I am sure you're car will posses all the right statistics when you are done with it.

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Yeah looks like 25psi around 4150rpm or so. Should be a pretty sick power band.

I'm also an advocate for Divided T4 setups, so thumbs up from me on going that route. You could try one of those QSV's for even quicker spool!

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You guys left out constant judgement and trash talking about who's better than who!

This is my new favorite thread. Oh, the evoX talk is cool too :)


Dave, what will you have planned for long-term maintenance on the engine, trans, etc then? The kind of numbers you are talking about are going to be murderous on bearings, gears, and axles.

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He'll blow another engine, claim Mitsu is shit b/c it can only handle 4x the factory output, talk about buying a Vette....then come back with a new engine and 900whp ;)

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At least the man is consistent. That has to count for something.

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I've talked to several people about tearing into my engine around 20k miles to check on bearings. I think I will drop the oil pan at the end of this season for a bearing check, if they look like shit I will asses further. I'd like to pull the motor myself this next time around if I need to, so we will see how that goes too.

Gears/axles/drivetrain etc will all be fix it when it breaks in my book. I haven't seen enough data showing anything worth upgrading before hand is worth it. The X trans and drivetrain seem awesome. But when stuff breaks I will probably send mine off to Jack's. I'll also probably put a mechanical diff in the rear if that goes too.

You know me too well :)

That's what I am talking about, gotta be worth a lil bit right?

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Honesty and consistency are worth plenty! :lol:

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I've never been to a 12 hr auto-x, where do I sign up?

5-6 solid hours of awesome driving?
LMAO, you need to tell all those guys that are doing road racing they are doing it wrong for all those HPDE days then, fuck a couple hundred bucks just $10 and a mitsustyle cruise!

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The real reason he won't go is that cruises are fun and Brown only likes to be cranky! At an AutoX he can stand around and bitch with other guys about the guys leading the pack being cheaters, etc so he will be in heaven! ;)

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Damn you! Now my secret is out. :angryfire:

JET I didn't realize you were that much of a drinker.

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:lol:

He can't stand the thought of other people having fun or enjoying something so he do what Brown do best ;)

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Gee idk, every single auto x that's not a test and tune?

If you would just come on a cruise you would see why they are the funnest events of the year. Instead of just talking some crazy shit that doesn't make any sense.

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Brown's been on cruises before, might have been before you joined.

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Well, had to drive through some snow Saturday in the evo to make it to MAP, but I made it It was sideways a few times as the summer tires were like ice skates but it made it with flying colors, just got really dirty! And for some reason, as usual I couldn't drive the car without some Pontiac Gran prix trying to race me. So hard to just ignore dumb asses that keep speeding up and slowing down and shit when I can't get into the throttle at all with no tune on the car haha. I don't know what it is about pontiac drivers, but they always try to race me, even the grocery getters.

The car ran pretty good considering jon spent like 30 mins on dialing the injectors in, it cruised pretty good, transitional stuff was a bit icky, big lean to rich swings etc but I made it ok.

MAP plans to build a top mount it sounds like just because the bottom mount probably won't fit, so top mount time baby.

I am still planning to go with the 6266 JB one in an .84 trim unless I sell my gun soon, then I might go 6466 for funsy. MAP is planning to build 3-5 kits off the bat and will be doing a sort of group buy I think. I have zero details on pricing but if you are interested please PM me and I will set up the group buy! They do have an MR in shop too so they will make sure it fits the MR too is the plan.

But for now, T4 game on!

edit:

I am also planning on doing a surge tank soon and moving my wally 400 into the surge tank and having either a stock pump or dw65 feed the surge tank. THen I will throw a BAP on the 400 and I that that will be good for A LOT, like I am hoping 750-800whp.

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I thought the price of the 6266 and 6466 was the same? I thought the price difference was JB to BB. Maybe not?

Car looks awesome and the top mount should be awesome to.

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They are the same, but I am doing a JB not BB for now. The 6466 only comes in BB.

I am looking forward to the new setup, should be fun and I think its about time I got into a "Proper" kit for my power level.

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That makes sense. Good work either way and I'm sure it will be sweet when your finished.

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If you need a stock pump w/housing let me know; mine has just been sitting in my garage for about two years :)

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Go 6466. Go big or go home. This car better make it out one summer night for some highway rolls.

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I agree, frum rolls!!!

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I just might need it actually! I sold mine long ago or I can't find it.

I will be out for highway rolls for sure! No 6466, I am not ready for it fuel wise, it would be a waste. I think the 6266 is more than enough, people have made 800whp with them before.

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.84 hotside on a T4 seems kinda small?

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I was doing that on purpose I guess. Others have told me that a t4 divided flange is roughly equivalent to a t3 single scroll for flowage. And an .84 t3 single scroll is good for 700's.

I just want something that spools in the same neighborhood as what I have now was kind of the idea.

I can always swap hotsides for relatively cheap. Which was my back up plan.

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Might want to double-check what other guys are running that you've been following to be sure. Go with what's proven!

ps--you're dumb for doing this! :)

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They all are moving to the 6466 lol. I want to run something smaller/responsive for starters then I will move up after.

I dunno though, maybe I will go with the 1.0AR, I have been getting several people saying to do that now...

Yes, I know very well, I am dumb. You can take it for a spin when its done though if you want ;)

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;)

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This is going to be a wicked setup!

Since you're going twin scroll I would start with the 1.0a/r. I kept wanting to go with a smaller a/r on my 6766 but people like Leasure and places like Boostin performance kept saying go with the bigger a/r. I figure they know more than I do so I just listened to them lol.

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It was bound to happen at some point, I held off longer than I originally planned, mainly due to funds being invested in motor builds lol. I dunno, I just enjoy screwing with stuff that is already working I guess! YOLO!

Thanks, I think itll be really fun.

Yea other big turbo guys keep saying go with a 1.0A/R, i might listen I guess.

Any thoughts from bigger turbo peeps on here?

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Welp, as long as you don't change your license plate to say SWAG, I'm down with whatever blasted A/R you get.

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Shit, better return my new plates!

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There is a big difference between the A/R rating of a divided and undivided turbine housing and then anytime you switch housing families, like from T3 to T4 the ratings are much different.

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Remind me to punch you in the dick the next time I see you.