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Kracka 02-07-2013 11:27 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Glad you're having fun with it then, that is the key here!

evotuner 02-07-2013 11:17 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
murlo - i think you need a beer

Halon 02-08-2013 08:27 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I used to be a "tweaker" too. Now I just give it to shane, let him do his thing because he's about 10000 times better than me, and then just leave it alone.

Knoxville 02-08-2013 08:39 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 423370)
I used to be a "tweaker" too. Now I just give it to shane, let him do his thing because he's about 10000 times better than me, and then just leave it alone.

If I remember correctly, Shane touched his first two engines...

Tachyon 02-08-2013 08:59 AM

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Que the drama in 3...2..

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw...i6tmo1_500.gif

turbotalon1g 02-08-2013 09:04 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
but murlo didn't change a thing I bet during those tunes.......

Murlo26 02-08-2013 09:28 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I don't want to get into anything on my first two engines. Past is past.

Shane is still an awesome tuner and if I utilize anyone locally it will be him. I went to Jon D as he had been doing some Speed density type stuff and was testing a lot with Tephra. It wasn't quick at all to work with Jon given the fact he is far away but I have sorted plenty of issues.

That being said, moving on...

And I don't tune my car, I just monitor, try to fix if I can and send logs to Jon.

Halon 02-08-2013 09:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Knoxville (Post 423373)
If I remember correctly, Shane touched his first two engines...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 423288)
well part of it is I am always always changing my tune

Are you insinuating the tuner should be liable for anything at that point?

All I'm saying is I hear ya Murlo, I was the exact same way! A week after getting off the dyno I'd be right back on the laptop screwing around. With this car I changed that though. Decided to let the tuner (Shane) do his thing, and then put the laptop away and just enjoy. Which has honestly made it more enjoyable to drive for me.

goodhart 02-08-2013 09:47 AM

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I've never understood those type of people. Pay $300 for a good dyno tune, then start fucking with it. When you get a haircut you don't go home and fire up the clippers do ya? LOL

Murlo26 02-08-2013 09:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Halon (Post 423386)
Are you insinuating the tuner should be liable for anything at that point?

All I'm saying is I hear ya Murlo, I was the exact same way! A week after getting off the dyno I'd be right back on the laptop screwing around. With this car I changed that though. Decided to let the tuner (Shane) do his thing, and then put the laptop away and just enjoy. Which has honestly made it more enjoyable to drive for me.

I think you are misinterpreting when I say I always change my tune. As I said in the above post, I am not tuning my car and have NEVER ever touched my tune. I didn't want to touch it stock let alone now. I am competent enough now to navigate the tuning software and log shit, but zero tuning is done by me.

My tune was redone from the ground up speed density style last year by Jon Draenas, he used to work for Cobb and is a very well respected tuner, especially of Evo X's. His evo X is still on the stock block making 600whp and has been since very early on. Mitsu even gave him a pre production ralliart to start tuning/playing with. I just loved the fact that he had an X and really spent TONS of time learning it and developing ECUflash with Tephra to get it right.

Murlo26 02-08-2013 09:53 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 423388)
I've never understood those type of people. Pay $300 for a good dyno tune, then start fucking with it. When you get a haircut you don't go home and fire up the clippers do ya? LOL

Up until using Jon D (bakaunchi) I never ever had anyone do anything to my evo tuning wise except shane. I had like 300 dyno runs on my X there over a few years, every time I changed stuff I went back to him for retuning.

311evo 02-08-2013 02:41 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knoxville (Post 423373)
If I remember correctly, Shane touched his first two engines...

There must be not other constants, yeah? I'm betting there were.

He also touched my first one that was built at the same time as Murlo's first. Besides a stock valve eating shit the motor has been perfect for over 2 years.

Murlo26 02-09-2013 09:20 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
So anywho, here is the updated graph for the twinscroll 6466 I showed before! MY GOD!

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/att...1&d=1360395062

bramagedained 02-09-2013 11:17 AM

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It's interesting to me that that graph shows 120whp more than my care made at MAP, but, my car made 85 more ftlbs. My turbo is the Vband housing and not the twinscroll.

Making that much power, I'd think that car would be spinning some in 3rd on the street.

goodhart 02-09-2013 12:19 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Mo powa mo problems. That is pretty bad ass though

Murlo26 02-09-2013 01:29 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bramagedained (Post 423456)
It's interesting to me that that graph shows 120whp more than my care made at MAP, but, my car made 85 more ftlbs. My turbo is the Vband housing and not the twinscroll.

Making that much power, I'd think that car would be spinning some in 3rd on the street.

You are also making more boost I thought, like 40ish psi? This guy is at 34ish.

The X motor is similar to a honda motor, its just super efficient up top.

From what I have seen, everytime on the same turbo, the x spools faster yet lacks the same mid range punch, but usually doesn't taper up top like the 8/9 if the turbo isn't maxed.

Different motor/platform, the 4b11 IS a good motor when it stays together :)

bramagedained 02-09-2013 03:21 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I'm just amazed it could make that much at ~35psi with the same turbo.

Murlo26 02-09-2013 03:24 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
35psi on the X though might actually be more airflow. Remember two things here, a. boost is a measure of resistance so if his setup is really efficient it makes sense, b. its a virtual dyno not real dyno, he is going to a real dyno soon.

bramagedained 02-09-2013 04:21 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I'm curious to see how my car does at DB when Shane's done with it.

I'm really happy with the 6466 and my setup.

Murlo26 02-09-2013 07:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bramagedained (Post 423470)
I'm curious to see how my car does at DB when Shane's done with it.

I'm really happy with the 6466 and my setup.

Me too, your setup is beast for sure. I am on the edge of taking the plunge into big boy area :)

Tachyon 02-09-2013 09:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 423471)
Me too, your setup is beast for sure. I am on the edge of taking the plunge into big boy area :)

Much to the dismay of everyone else here, GO FOR IT!

Murlo26 02-09-2013 09:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tachyon (Post 423476)
Much to the dismay of everyone else here, GO FOR IT!

I like your style! At least someone agrees. Seriously though, that powerband is sick!

evotuner 02-09-2013 11:28 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 423477)
I like your style! At least someone agrees. Seriously though, that powerband is sick!

900hp is pretty badass lol...how many miles do you have on your motor now?

Murlo26 02-09-2013 11:30 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evotuner (Post 423479)
900hp is pretty badass lol...how many miles do you have on your motor now?

10k miles...

evotuner 02-09-2013 11:32 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Not bad, does it seem to be just as strong? or hows your logging been, no knock?

Murlo26 02-09-2013 11:41 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Just as strong for sure, zero knock ! Winter though, no logging lately.

4seasons69 02-10-2013 12:05 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Hey its your car if you want a 6466 I say go for it too!

Tachyon 02-10-2013 10:30 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Speaking of 6466's I remember this post from last year on a j2z Supra. More proof that the turbo can supply the air for 900 ponies.

scheides 02-10-2013 11:10 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Goddamn, this turned into a 6466 discussion? Maybe consider just starting a new thread next time murlo....whenever you're posting info about other cars, guns, you know, stuff not related directly to this project? Maybe use that 'new post' button, it's not so bad! People will still reply and know who you are. :)

turbotalon1g 02-10-2013 12:07 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
That is a badass powerband, I think you should do it.

evotuner 02-10-2013 01:21 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 423483)
Just as strong for sure, zero knock !

Glad to hear it man, post this stuff up on evomn as well ;)

Im personally voting for the 6466. Time to run 10s with the 10:cheer:

turbotalon1g 02-10-2013 02:08 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evotuner (Post 423499)
Im personally voting for the 6466. Time to run 10s with the 10:cheer:

This.

Murlo26 02-12-2013 11:59 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 423493)
Goddamn, this turned into a 6466 discussion? Maybe consider just starting a new thread next time murlo....whenever you're posting info about other cars, guns, you know, stuff not related directly to this project? Maybe use that 'new post' button, it's not so bad! People will still reply and know who you are. :)

I thought this was the life of dave thread too though ;) I did really consider starting a new thread for the 6466. Sometimes other threads that get started don't get any people posting though, and its kind of related to my car as it's what I was/am considering for an upgrade.

However, I found out they do have the 6266 in T4 twinscroll too it looks like so I am thinking that would be a better option in their largest A/R.

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 423503)
This.

I hope I don't need anymore power for 10's...good drivers could damn near hit 9's with slicks in my car I am sure lol.

On a new note:

Sold my DW1300's today...upgrading injectors soon, hopefully FIC has their 1600/1700 ones out before snow melts, otherwise I am stuck with FIC2000's.

Also sold my old double pumper for really cheap for some extra cash for other stuff :)

C3L1CA 02-12-2013 12:34 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I say do what you think will make you the happiest and enjoy the car the most.


I would think 600ish awhp is a lot more fun to drive than a 800+awhp car on jack stands...

Murlo26 02-12-2013 12:51 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 423701)
I say do what you think will make you the happiest and enjoy the car the most.


I would think 600ish awhp is a lot more fun to drive than a 800+awhp car on jack stands...

And what makes me happiest right now is a working car. Logic will override silliness here I think and I will stick it out with the current setup. I also am sick of spending big money so I am going to try and keep the major changes to zero this year and do smaller stuff and drive it and have fun. I have house stuff to do.

I just thought this powerband was pretty epic so it was awfully tempting. Realistically my car makes enough power where its tough to find a spot to open it up on the road anymore where I don't feel like I am going to get arrested.

Kracka 02-12-2013 12:55 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Bring it to Texas; tear up the tollways.

Murlo26 02-12-2013 12:56 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 423703)
Bring it to Texas; tear up the tollways.

Road trip this summer maybe, or more likely fall would be better when its not 1000 degrees.

I'd have to get my pump gas tune a bit closer to make it there though :)

Kracka 02-12-2013 01:01 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
You can make the trip on E85, you just need to plan your fuel stops very carefully and call ahead to verify they still sell it. Someone on here did it...maybe Brownman? Pump gas would definitely be easier though. My guest room is all yours if you make it down :)

93gtpeater 02-12-2013 01:45 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I think you need to take this thing to the track some more this year and make a good pass

Knoxville 02-12-2013 02:02 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I'll make a road trip to TX with you Murlo, Tahoe bitches?


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