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So today starting logging the new MAP, which slowed spool down because it was surging. So backed MIVEC down.

Here is what happened with boost when it surged.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...muchspools.jpg

Keep in mind, warmer now then when I took the last logs by about 30degrees.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../92412run1.jpg

Then, second run, found some issues it looks like.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../92412run2.jpg

I did these runs about 2 mins apart, so we are thinking I simply emptied the basket where the fuel pump sits. So looking like I might need a surge tank anyway :(

At around 7500 or so I stop watching fueling and start watching rpms for letting off for shifting etc and watch knock. The car didn't knock at all above like 6k, just small stuff lower down which I think is motor noise.

The new fuel setup has plenty of fuel pump I think its just at lower tank levels the basket drys up now. I was at 1/4 of a tank.

So I guess over the winter its time to research surge tanks.

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Stop fucking around and fuel cell the bitch.

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x2.

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Or just don't rip it when out of gas. That would be the least expensive solution. Is there any way you can have the tune flagged for this condition and let it not let it destroy itself? I mean yeah a surge tank ...fuel cell ... thing a mabob.. etc.. Would take care of this but eventually a car runs out of gas. It does happen.

Shawn

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^that is foolish. Fuel cell please.

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Just don't run it below half a tank.

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This.

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I am used to that, I am simply testing out my new fuel system. I was hoping to be able to still beat on it at 1/4 of a tank, but looks like its still more or less 1/2 and up to be safe.

Do you have issues when you get lower in the gas tank or emptying the basket of fuel too fast?

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Did a bunch of logging tonight, high rpm low load stuff (5,6k rpms), set up 2step, did 2-3-4 pull and a new 3rd gear pull seen below. Different road than last time, shits never too consistent for me, always around 585-610whp though so whatever.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...26/92612-1.jpg

New MAP going on tomorrow, target boost of 32psi. The car rips right now.

For those who could be curious...what AFR, boost, timing, knock look like on the one above.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b252/Murlo26/logs.jpg

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Looking good Dave! Going to be awesome to see this finally get down the dragstrip!

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^Agreed.

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New MAP in, did a 32psi one and 33psi one, broke 500ft/lbs on one run but it was a bit downhill so prolly 480 ft/lbs, felt good but having issues midrange. leaning out there so we are adding fuel,the car is basically missing there, I think anyway, from not enough fuel.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...asboosters.jpg

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Did logs at lunch, ignore numbers these were entrance ramps as I had no where to go near work during lunch.

But more fuel fixed it all I think...was very smooth and powerful! Ready for the track now I think :)

edit: I shifted on the blue pull to 4th as it was feeling so good, didn't trim it on the log either, which is why it looks like that up top.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ncerampfun.jpg

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Didn't run max boost one, as I don't think I will need or really want it lol. Plus this map was running good :)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../92812runs.jpg

Ready for RF as I will ever be...

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Well, I figured I post up a quick snippet here as well, rather than everything in the RF thread.

I accomplished my main mission this weekend, drive evo to track, drive evo down track and drive evo home. No major issues and the car made it home so a win in my book.

Drag racing, not so easy. Not ever having gone I wasn't too disappointed really and the car felt strong until my clutch started locking out on me big time. I only got 2 runs in without clutch issues, 1st run which was fail because I left traction control on and the 2nd run which was ok, but still terrible for an AWD car (2.5 60') but still ran 12.0 on that run.

Then on my 4th run, lost my oil cap and with all the problems shifting (couldn't get into 2nd, 3rd or 4th was a pretty bad run) I decided to call it quits as I found my oil cap wedged in between my downpipe. So I will be switching back to my OEM oil cap as apparently the metal anodized one I have doesn't work well with my valve cover as everything heats up and loosens. I also probably have way too much crank case pressure and am getting the SSP catch can with 10AN lines off the valve cover this winter.

Anyway, my 2nd run ever, best run of the day..

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...4AFD1BF94D.jpg

A pic when I got home, kinda liking wingless!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...5D806DB35A.jpg

Oh, the few things I took out for some weight savings :)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...5D772C9E71.jpg

Clutch is now feeling pretty bad too. I am guessing its cooked. I will probably be running a twin disc next time. I guess we will see. I can still drive the car now but its very rough on engagement now and I am guessing there are some pretty big heat spots.

Oh, the vid of 1st/2nd runs ever:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWACbKjNTUM&hd=1

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Which clutch master are you running?

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Magnus kit. I had to replace the actual master again earlier this year as it failed again. But its been solid all year since.

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So wondering if 15w50 is too thick?

I want to run AMSoil dominator oil but it only comes in 10w30 and 15w50. I used to run the 10w40 AMSoil high zinc AMO oil. But recently switched to dominator and am running 10w30.

I think with my clearances I should run thicker and at my power level the dominator seems to make more sense. Thoughts?

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I would feel OK if all I used the car for was for weekend fun and race track. If you drive it nice and easy on a day to day basis at all, I personally wouldn't run that thick of oil.

Just my opinion.

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Go with what works :) 10w40 seems to be the perfect weight imho. I even ran it through winter!

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Isn't Dominator non detergent? Just something to keep in mind I guess

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Just going to switch back to the AMO high zinc 10w-40. Easy enough.

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My last run, where I had lockout (see video), but I think this was one of my better 60ft's...less of mashing on the gas. I'll check my timeslips later to confirm but thought this was my like 2.1 60 which is still awful bet I was improving.

I think clutch is gone...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-S3b5NhqAU&hd=1

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Well after over 2 weeks since I was at the track, I finally got my lazy ass in gear and changed my oil tonight haha.

Car feels smoother now, some of the oil was getting a bit sludgey almost. No more dominator oil for me, I like the AMSoil AMO better.

Anyway, did some logging tonight, here is my RPM vs. Speed.

I don't know, it doesn't seem to be slipping much if at all. The car missed a bit on this run too. It was also on an entrance ramp, so slightly downhill, a long ramp so not too steep. So the load wasn't crazy. But the clutch doesn't seem too horrible.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...SpeedvsRpm.jpg

Thoughts?

Ps. Been daily driving this for weeks now, I miss this as a daily, drives great! stop and go traffic and all. The clutch got a lot better after a week or so of daily driving. Almost 9k miles on the new motor!

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Once you get the glaze of the clutch, it should be feel like it used to. The drag passes with launching and slipping the clutch transfers heat and clutch material to the pressure plate and flywheel surface. It should be for the most part be back to normal, time to turn the boost back up. ;)

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Never turned it down :)

Here is the same run in VD.

Running rich as shit. Maybe blend change I guess.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...18123rdWOT.jpg

Numbers are inflated some as its slightly downhill.

Also you can see on my real logs the "event" at 6k..where it was kinda missing. Not sure what's happening there.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...23rdWOTLog.jpg

Otherwise, no knock at all and looks good otherwise.

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Had the dynoday today at MAP! Fun times, great turnout. Aside from my hangover in the morning, all was well.

My car didn't really "work" as expected as its breaking up around 6000rpms. You can hear it in the vids. I was hoping maybe it would work on the dyno but no. Going to get my gaps down to .020 or even .018 tomorrow and go for some pulls. Otherwise the car was very consistent and very little knock, few 1's, thats it.

612whp/510wtq yay! And that wasn't even a full pull. I am guessing ~620-630 if I got to rev it out on a clean pull.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ynodayRuns.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8Uw0gYI4U&hd=1

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double post

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Your car is badass up close dude and it puts down!! Very nice, glad you didnt sell it haha

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At Knoxvilles, I pulled my plugs...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...B01DD57EAC.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...B021C1A209.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...B024AB113E.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...B02755AF7E.jpg

Some are a little white, from running a bit lean prolly...but they look ok I guess, no expert here though.

I used this to check gap.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...B02B233193.jpg

It's knoxvilles, but I am not sure its accurate. according to this my plugs are already at ~.020.

I am going to get some new feeler gauges tomorrow morning before i put them back in, just the thin metal deals on the ring at different sizes. Maybe those will show I need to gap them down a bit. So suggestion for closing the gap...just tap down on wood or something?

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Yeah you can tap them on a wood counter top or cement floor if need be.

To open up the gap use a pliers. Don't pry against the electrode/insulation.

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I'd check with a set of real feeler gages, that graduated one is tough to get a real reading from IMHO.

Maybe a fresh set of plugs is in order too, considering the trouble others have been having?

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Yea, I went out this morning and bought real feeler gauges. Then gapped them to .018, zero problems now! Car pulls smooth all the way up :) Leaned out up top to ~13:1 though...car was pretty low on fuel though, maybe 9 gallons below full or so, sigh, still need a surge tank.

Zero knock though. Also, ignore numbers, knoxville was with me but its down an entrance ramp, so subtract something like 30whp prolly. Really just showing the curves and the smoothness. Car rips, feels great! 34 psi with cold weather, holding 30psi out to 8700 and still not maxed on wgdc.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ewlogtoday.jpg

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Woot! I love making 580+whp dynojet and still leaving some on the table :) EF4 ftw!

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Yep :) Totally agree, this turbo has some bite, good balance of hp/spool imo. I don't think I will ever get rid of stock frame as I don't need anymore power.

The MAP I have on the car right now is at 90% wgdc right now. I have a 100% one on my ALT MAP but have never tried, never had a desire too as the car is fast already.

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The ALT Map will just finish off what you already started with the clutch! :angryfire:

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Careful using it--I turned the boost down on my car from 33 to 30 and it richened up about .6 AFR. I can only surmise that going from 33 to 36 would have a similar semi-linear affect.

What's your peak IDC btw? I haven't checked mine in a while, just curious how those lil'1300's are doing!

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I have two Alt MAPs, one is richer than what I have on there now in case I need it.

Right now, assuming I have proper fuel pressure and the basket is full, the car is running plenty rich at mid 11's.

I don't plan to use the ALT map ever at this point, I see no reason. I am not so concerned with numbers as I used to be. I prefer a car that I know everything is running correctly and stays that way.

IDC's I am not sure. My log from the dynoday is all screwed up, the column headers aren't in the right spots. But my guess from looking at it, is ~97%.

I plan to buy the new ID1300's when they come out too. The DW's just don't feel very stable. I feel like I could have a better injector and ID's are always solid. I hope ID does do 1400's though instead to give me some room.

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Well typical bad ideas running through my head with no evo to drive and only forums to keep my car urges satisfied until spring. Starting to look at upgrades/changes to make for spring.

I am in heavy debate about switching to a full t3 setup and running the GTX3576 turbo. However, that will cost me 1500-2k depending on how much I sell my current setup for and realistically won't make much more power if any. So then I started looking at the 6262 or 6266 turbos...then I need to redo fuel system again.

Part of me wants to just do intake mani, ported throttle body and then figure out a surge tank setup and work on removing weight (new seats, new driveshaft, new small breaks etc etc).

So I am still not sure what to do. I will for sure be changing injectors. To either the new ID1300's that I think are supposed to be coming out or maybe the FIC 1600 area ones that are coming out to give me some headroom.

I saw this today, so this is the real reason I am posting...thoughts?
http://www.theboombopshop.com/Golden...o-p/gim109.htm

That vs. the MAP rev 3 intake mani porting. What are peoples experience with the golden eagle stuff, worth it? Pricing wise its close to the MAP rev 3 but I know for sure what I am getting with the MAP ported OEM piece. The rev 3 seems safe but this piece seems a lil risky like I might spend money on something that doesn't do shit for my setup. But on the other hand a proper aftermarket manifold should yield great results if designed right.

Hmmmm....

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IM/TB are definitely big restrictions for you right now; focus on those before upgrading the turbo any further. Scratch the idea of small brakes, those are really for drag only since you get one good stop out of them. I wouldn't feel comfortable on the highway with them. My friend down here with his 2,250 lb. VIII autocross car runs the AMS Wilwood drag brakes and he said no way in hell would he track with them since they heat up too quickly...and that car is over 1k lbs. lighter than yours. 2-piece rotors and an aluminum driveshaft would be good ways to drop substantial rotational mass though.