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mike55112 03-01-2010 05:14 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
NLTS can be a little tricky at first if you have never used it before,Kracka and schiedes witnessed my first attempt with it. But after some practice, its a very fun mod.

mlomker 03-01-2010 05:51 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
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Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 327466)
You keep the throttle at 100% when shifting and just push the clutch in quick, it really does make a world of difference.

Hmm. It must do ECU-based rev matching, then. It detects the pedal floored and when you touch the clutch it drops the revs enough to match up with the next gear.

Kracka 03-01-2010 05:57 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
It drops the RPM's by a user-set amount. I personally have mine set at 1000. Clutch in at 7500, RPM's drop to 6500; clutch in at 4000, drop to 3000, etc.

t-revzr 03-01-2010 06:12 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 327488)
It drops the RPM's by a user-set amount. I personally have mine set at 1000. Clutch in at 7500, RPM's drop to 6500; clutch in at 4000, drop to 3000, etc.

Is that usually the standard amount 1000? Thats what mine was too.

Kracka 03-01-2010 06:16 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t-revzr (Post 327495)
Is that usually the standard amount 1000? Thats what mine was too.

I believe 800 is the default, but I generally set it to 1,000 on any car I install Tephra on. It really doesn't matter much since the actual RPM drop is ~1,500 (varies depending on gear of course); you'll only notice if you're a slow shifter. The only time I actually bounce off the limiter is doing a NLTS into 5th gear; I baby 5th so I don't get the common grind so so many people have developed.

Murlo26 03-07-2010 04:40 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Well my car goes through 1-4 gears beautifully.

However, last night doing a fifth gear pull (freeway passing)the clutch basically opened up completely, meaning slipped horribly.

It slipped and bounced all the way off the rev limiter. I let it cool down and its back to normal but the new clutch will coming soon now. I was thinking about doing a few things before it because it was holding up great. However I don't want to have to think about it anymore. So new clutch will be coming.

Kevin 1G Drummer 03-08-2010 12:12 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Haha I knew it wouldn't last very long.

Murlo26 03-09-2010 08:45 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer (Post 328448)
Haha I knew it wouldn't last very long.

1 week wasn't bad:)

Update, clutch wouldn't even fully hold 3rd gear on the entrance ramp today:(

NOw it's getting not fun to drive...going to order my ACT 6 puck very soon I am thinking. Maybe today.

scheides 03-09-2010 09:24 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 328366)
However, last night doing a fifth gear pull (freeway passing)the clutch basically opened up completely, meaning slipped horribly.

wut? passing on the freeway w/o downshifting? zzomg! :)

Murlo26 03-09-2010 09:26 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 328688)
wut? passing on the freeway w/o downshifting? zzomg! :)

No need to now, well there wasn't. Enough power in fifth to pass. When you are going 80 already, the gearing on the X is such that you are already building boost. So fifth gets used a lot for passing, at least for me.

mlomker 03-09-2010 10:50 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Passing? I'm always in the right lane. :D

I hate 5th gear...at 45ish it is at a lugging rpm range.

Kevin 1G Drummer 03-09-2010 01:15 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Haha with my DSM I never downshifted from 5th to pass. 16g FTW!

Constant_Project21 03-09-2010 01:24 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer (Post 328718)
Haha with my DSM I never downshifted from 5th to pass. 16g FTW!

This. 16g FTW indeed.

Murlo26 03-09-2010 01:40 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
evox gearing ftw i guess since you are always above 3krpm.

However mpg ftl

goodhart 03-09-2010 02:13 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Get the Shep final drive. :D

http://www.sheptrans.com/transmissio...tm#final_drive

Murlo26 03-09-2010 02:17 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
tempting, but awfully expensive.

goodhart 03-09-2010 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 328729)
tempting, but awfully expensive.


Yeah, that would be a part I would wait for the price to drop on, I can see that thing being about $3-400 in about 2 years

Murlo26 03-09-2010 02:32 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
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Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 328730)
Yeah, that would be a part I would wait for the price to drop on, I can see that thing being about $3-400 in about 2 years

Id rather invest more in my head or even drop ins, rods/pistons, and rev the car out to 8500-9000rpms. Then get taller tires if need be. That way I wouldn't need this.

mlomker 03-09-2010 02:34 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
I plan to Shep my drive train if/when I manage to toast the six puck.

Murlo26 03-12-2010 09:31 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
New ACT clutch/flywheel are in at DB (at least I am pretty sure they are, Shane said yesterday or today).

I ordered some new Mits spark plugs, mine looked pretty old when Shane checked them.

I also just ordered the DOM2 wga, its a 20psi one. It seems to hold boost way better, so maybe I can erk out some more power.

Here is a red before and after boost plot using the dom2 actuator.

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/att...1&d=1266420862

Very similar to mine, tapers to 26psi ish.

Now with dom2 actuator.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...es/E85-WGA.jpg

If you look at the new graph, you can see he hits peak power at lot sooner and it won't go up because he has exhaust restriction, he is still on a stock unmodified manifold and 2.75" exhaust. So if he opened that up he would've made quite a bit more power.

Murlo26 03-17-2010 02:53 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Well took my car to Brookdale mits over lunch. They ordered in the sealant and a new serpentine belt (i guess mine was starting to fray a bit) and are repairing my leak under warranty. Mits customer service ftw! Getting it fixed next tuesday, woo.

Kracka 03-17-2010 02:57 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Glad to hear it! I know a lot of people complain about Mitsu's warranty coverage but I've had good luck with it too.

Murlo26 03-17-2010 02:59 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Yea, so far so good for me. It is totally dealer dependent.

They had a nice white 9 there too, looked like they just got it and were taking pictures of it to post online or something.

When he gave me my keys and said he ordered the stuff in I made sure to ask...this is covered under warranty right and he said, yea your miles are low enough, lol. So I don't think they care about the mods.

He told me about the TSB so that is probably why its all good.

Kracka 03-17-2010 03:06 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 329584)
It is totally dealer dependent.

Regional actually it seems; coverage is pretty much determined by the regional claims rep. Dealers will generally just initially OK stuff if they know s/he won't have a problem with it. My dealership was questionable on it due to my mods so they had to wait and hear back from him before giving me the final OK and ordering parts. They didn't want him to see my actual car though so they just took zoomed in pictures of my rear diff making sure not to get any of my bushings, bracing, springs, brake lines, removed emissions, or anti-sway bar in the background :D

mlomker 03-17-2010 03:16 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 329581)
Mits customer service ftw! Getting it fixed next tuesday, woo.

Eh, it's mostly stock.

I'll certainly be using Brookdale when I go in for the air bag recall.

Kracka 03-17-2010 03:18 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
What's wrong with the X airbags?

Murlo26 03-17-2010 03:20 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 329588)
What's wrong with the X airbags?

Another salt state problem, the front sensor was getting corroded and "could" cause the airbags to not deploy. Mine got fixed long ago.

Murlo26 03-17-2010 03:20 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 329587)
Eh, it's mostly stock.

I'll certainly be using Brookdale when I go in for the air bag recall.

Damn right it's mostly stock:)

Kevin 1G Drummer 03-18-2010 10:50 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
My dad had the same airbag recall with his '09 Nissan Frontier. Maybe they use the same type of sensor?

Murlo26 03-18-2010 11:23 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer (Post 329724)
My dad had the same airbag recall with his '09 Nissan Frontier. Maybe they use the same type of sensor?

Quite possibly, who knows. Every recall I have had, aside from the fuel line one, I think is a salt state one. The northern states always have more, salt rapes all.

Murlo26 03-22-2010 08:55 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Maybe I will have better luck posting this here, what do you guys think?

So I am going to get a wideband and I need a new boost gauge too since I am already running over 30psi..and after looking at prices, I figure around 200 for the widband and 150-175 for the new boost gauge, plus I can sell my current one.

I saw this and it looks like a nice setup.

http://www.zeitronix.com/order/order.htm

I know people use the zeitronix stuff quite a bit, is it truly good stuff? I was thinking get the Zt-2 wideband kit and get the MAP sensor for 35psi and hook that up to the lcd display. The pricing would be the same and I could find a better spot to hook it up and I could add egt later too which seems nice and log the data easy with their software.

Does this wideband need to be calibrated does anyone know? Is this good stuff, I am not sure what to get but this seems solid.

I would mount this under my AC controls I think and would be able to see my gauges again.

scheides 03-22-2010 09:22 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
From what I've seen, its pretty decent. I haven't used one personally (I can't remember what I had on my 2G, I don't think it was a z) but they are pretty widely used and that combo gauge seems pretty nice. My only reservation is analog vs digital gauge, it's not as easy to watch a digital gauge when you're WOT with the glance of an eye, so just something to keep in mind.

Murlo26 03-22-2010 09:27 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 330245)
From what I've seen, its pretty decent. I haven't used one personally (I can't remember what I had on my 2G, I don't think it was a z) but they are pretty widely used and that combo gauge seems pretty nice. My only reservation is analog vs digital gauge, it's not as easy to watch a digital gauge when you're WOT with the glance of an eye, so just something to keep in mind.

True, but it's tough to watch any gauge aside from the tach when WOT too.

I should have something, but mounting options are terrible for the X for gauges. I am just running the 20 dollar universal mount for a 52mm gauge bolted onto my steering column. It works, but i can't see my speed under 40mph, lol. I am debating about getting an A-pillar mount since it does make it nice for viewing, however the X has a poor field of vision already. So then i was going to mount stuff under the AC control, where I won't be able to read it anyway, so who knows. Maybe I just buy evoscan instead with a tactrix cable and just do logs every once in a while. I remain confused on what to do.

Kracka 03-22-2010 09:29 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 330246)
Maybe I just buy evoscan instead with a tactrix cable and just do logs every once in a while. I remain confused on what to do.

This.

scheides 03-22-2010 09:45 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
+1, by far. There's no ecu-integration yet but I'm sure that's not too far off, otherwise a serial cable will work dandy. Logging > gauges IMHO.

Murlo26 03-22-2010 09:52 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 330248)
+1, by far. There's no ecu-integration yet but I'm sure that's not too far off, otherwise a serial cable will work dandy. Logging > gauges IMHO.

Gauges are great, but I typically can't watch them anyway. Knock CEL is coming from Tephra so that will help a lot, hard to miss a blinking light, but gauges aren't too practical to watch during WOT and watching the road and your shift point. I still think I am going to get some new gauges as a WB isn't a bad thing to have but maybe I will wait a bit on that.

So these two things right?

http://www.limitless.co.nz/

http://www.tactrix.com/index.php?pag...mart&Itemid=53

Kracka 03-22-2010 09:53 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Yup. You can run the wideband to the laptop with a serial cable for now until someone figures out how to wire the wideband directly into the ECU for logging through EvoScan.

Is EvoScan able to log boost since you have the stock 3.3-bar MAP sensor?

Murlo26 03-22-2010 09:56 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 330250)
Yup. You can run the wideband to the laptop with a serial cable for now until someone figures out how to wire the wideband directly into the ECU for logging through EvoScan.

Is EvoScan able to log boost since you have the stock 3.3-bar MAP sensor?

I thought it could but I am not positive, i haven't played with it yet as I don't have it.

I just bought an OMNI 4 bar now though, so not sure if that will affect it or not.

scheides 03-22-2010 09:57 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
^Good call, should be able to log up to about 32psi pretty easy....if you're over that though, won't help much :(

Do they have support for running different MAP sensors on the evoX yet? That would be the way to go (I run a PnP OmniPower 4-bar).

mlomker 03-22-2010 10:01 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 330249)
So these two things right?

Yup, I have those...along with the AMI A-pillar (not installed yet). Rexpeed now has a "stick on" a-pillar that's a lot less expensive.

Keep in mind that you'll want a wideband anyway. You'll just feed the input into a serial port on your laptop when logging and leave it headless the rest of the time if you don't want a gauge.

Tephra recommends the Zeitronix so it should be great for that purpose.


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