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FattyBoomBatty 04-27-2009 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 288000)
Its probably too late now, but your tires should be above the wear indicators.

Boo! You can still almost tell there used to be tread on my back tires. Maybe I could borrow someone's tires.

BTW, if I sign up for MOWOG1, what are the chances I'll get to even run my car, given there are 160 entries?

Kracka 04-27-2009 07:43 AM

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M#1 registration is full so you'll either have to buy a spot from someone or show up really early and get on the waiting list. Supposedly, they've never had to turn away a waiting list participant which is a good thing for you! Everyone will get 6 runs (3 in the morning, 3 in the afternoon), possibly more depending on how the day goes.

FattyBoomBatty 04-27-2009 11:35 AM

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Eh, or just wait for another time. Or practice on the streets in heavy traffic!

s1ngletracker 04-27-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cmspaz (Post 288109)
33.4 clean, 33.0 dirty. Andrew managed a 32.9 The Exige ran a 32.4, if anyone wants a benchmark. I guess my hypothesis about DSMs being fast in the rain has been proven true.

But yeah, the rain was a great learning experience, and tons of fun. For some reason, my faster runs always involved me being tail-happy and getting sideways during braking, so maybe that's something to look into setup-wise when I fix my wheel bearings and get a long-needed alignment.

I honestly feel the same way about my 520 treadwear all-seasons, but it doesn't stop me from bitching about them every chance I get. As far as today went, they came through surprisingly well, all things considered.

who was andrew again?

BTW, congrats on getting your car to be tail happy. I was having a hard time getting mine to kick out, I gave up after the morning session,and my times were much faster in the afternoon as a result.

asshanson 04-27-2009 03:08 PM

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I had the only other 2g there, maroon. I was running 36-39s for the morning because I was going WAY too fast in the carousel. For me the best times were not sliding, because my front end pushed out and I steered more to correct. Probably the best thing I learned was to straighten out the wheel to regain traction.

Also riding with the instructors over lunch showed me you floor it during the straights, then get hard on the brakes, I wasn't that extreme. Once I started doing that, and braking enough to not push in corners, I was doing consistent 33's and pulled off a 32.9 very last run.

What were those subarus running, there were 3 black ones that looked pretty fast.

And big turbos FTL in auto-x. They wanted us to stay in 2nd gear for the course, but around some slow corners I was maybe going 20, 1st gear into 2nd would have been WAY quicker because my car is laggy.

A//// Guy 04-27-2009 03:13 PM

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Haha I figured the big turbo would be a pita for autox. :P Glad you did well your first time out! I may have to go watch next time. Not sure id want to autox the A... when I had the M, I thought about it. :(

s1ngletracker 04-27-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by asshanson (Post 288178)
I had the only other 2g there, maroon. I was running 36-39s for the morning because I was going WAY too fast in the carousel. For me the best times were not sliding, because my front end pushed out and I steered more to correct. Probably the best thing I learned was to straighten out the wheel to regain traction.

Also riding with the instructors over lunch showed me you floor it during the straights, then get hard on the brakes, I wasn't that extreme. Once I started doing that, and braking enough to not push in corners, I was doing consistent 33's and pulled off a 32.9 very last run.

What were those subarus running, there were 3 black ones that looked pretty fast.

And big turbos FTL in auto-x. They wanted us to stay in 2nd gear for the course, but around some slow corners I was maybe going 20, 1st gear into 2nd would have been WAY quicker because my car is laggy.


What was the deal with the blue smoke? Turbo or motor? Your idle is great too, BTW :) If you need any advice on that, let me know. I'm kindof an expert on fixing DSM idles now.

asshanson 04-27-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by s1ngletracker (Post 288183)
What was the deal with the blue smoke? Turbo or motor? Your idle is great too, BTW :) If you need any advice on that, let me know. I'm kindof an expert on fixing DSM idles now.

Blue smoke is either valve seals or turbo, both were just rebuilt, one isn't right. Bad idle is because my ISC just died last week. I got a replacement the night before but didn't have tools to swap it out.

cmspaz 04-27-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by asshanson (Post 288191)
Blue smoke is either valve seals or turbo, both were just rebuilt, one isn't right. Bad idle is because my ISC just died last week. I got a replacement the night before but didn't have tools to swap it out.

Should have told me, I had everything needed with me. Could have done it during the first run group.

asshanson 04-27-2009 05:36 PM

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This is me failing at steering, but a cool pic:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3605/...e57b91.jpg?v=0

Barely missing a cone in the slaloms:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3638/...e0fda9.jpg?v=0

And another:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/...dac5a6.jpg?v=0

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1616848...7617369035716/
There are a lot of pics of every car in that album. I saw several pics of s1ngletracker's and spaz's cars.

s1ngletracker 04-27-2009 05:36 PM

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no kidding, switching out an ISC takes 15 mins.

cool pics. I really like your car. Nice looking wheels as well!

cmspaz 04-27-2009 09:35 PM

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The majority of pics of my car are from my last run of the morning right after I took out a ton of cones, one of which ripped my side skirt almost completely from my car, so you can see it flopping around.:rollinglaugh:

I almost fell over laughing when I got out and saw it hanging there.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3620/...0ebfedf01f.jpg

Kracka 04-27-2009 10:49 PM

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Glad you guys has fun! Who's coming to MOWOG#1?

A//// Guy 04-27-2009 11:50 PM

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lol @ cone ownage!

s1ngletracker 04-27-2009 11:57 PM

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asshanson... you might be interested in this vid. From MNsubaru:

http://daynja.com/gt/ax1090426-1.mpg

s1ngletracker 04-28-2009 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 288237)
Glad you guys has fun! Who's coming to MOWOG#1?

I didn't want to register before I did the novice school... and registration is full, so not me. I may come to watch though.

cmspaz 04-28-2009 08:46 AM

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Show up early and get on the waiting list, they've never had to turn someone away.

I won't be there because I can't afford it.

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 288250)
lol @ cone ownage!

Note to self: tape that up next time!

asshanson 04-28-2009 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by s1ngletracker (Post 288251)
asshanson... you might be interested in this vid. From MNsubaru:

http://daynja.com/gt/ax1090426-1.mpg

Hell yes, that's awesome! A full video of my run. I look slow, stupid turbo lag in 2nd gear. I should have tried a few runs in 1st, lol.

asshanson 04-29-2009 02:15 PM

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Anybody want to go to Marshalltown, IA this Sunday?
http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.c...374EF39BFD1189

EDIT: I see it's cheaper if you're a "member", same with MAC events. A member of what, the SCCA or the local club?

Kracka 04-29-2009 02:45 PM

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With MOWOG events its cheaper if you're a MAC member; a MAC membership costs $30/year. Being a member also allows you to attend the test & tune days.

Matt D. 04-29-2009 04:14 PM

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Damn, I didn't realize Andrew went to the novice school. Hope you enjoyed yourself and will come to future events.

asshanson 04-29-2009 04:25 PM

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Definitely enjoyed it, most fun driving ever. I will come to events, as soon as I'm back up there in June.
Question for anyone: I have an adjustable front swaybar, what setting would make it understeer less? Tight or loose? Right now it's on the loose setting. I have an RM 21mm bar in the rear, this is a suspension techniques 19mm front. Right now I have stock-ish spring rates, but thinking of switching to the stiffer ksports.

MustGoFaster 04-29-2009 04:42 PM

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Loose should make it understeer less. It makes the rear provide more of the roll reistance and makes the rear tires work a little harder.

Kracka 04-29-2009 05:10 PM

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Can you adjust your rear bar stiffer?

asshanson 04-29-2009 05:59 PM

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Nope, it's fixed. So are my endlinks.

Matt D. 04-29-2009 06:32 PM

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Softer front and/or stiffer rear will help induce oversteer. Just the opposite will make it turn less.

ylimert01 05-02-2009 07:45 PM

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I had fun spectating today and hope to make to a event soon!

MustGoFaster 05-02-2009 11:21 PM

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I had tons of fun today, and might have taken my class win. It's un-confirmed at this point, but at least 4-5 people that I talked to think I have the win. It would be a first for me, but it would also be my first time driving a truly competitive car (Mini Cooper) as well.

cmspaz 05-03-2009 12:06 AM

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Anyone gonna be there tomorrow? I'm thinking of showing up with my camera, but not so much if there aren't going to be many people I know there.

s1ngletracker 05-03-2009 12:09 AM

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Snap, I might be there in the morning.

MustGoFaster 05-03-2009 06:59 AM

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I will be there, but I will be driving a Mini again.

s1ngletracker 05-03-2009 09:24 AM

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Damn, I really wanted to see a 3/s zipping around the course!

Kracka 05-03-2009 10:12 AM

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Why didn't you bring the 3/S yesterday, Ryan?

I had a good time yesterday. My morning runs were good and I was feeling very comfortable in my car, but I just couldn't get focused in the afternoon. My car control has improved though as I only hit 1 cone all day.

I was fairly disappointed with the organization yesterday though. None of the officials seemed to have a grasp on the flow pace or what needed to be done. 170 cars was way too many and it made the day really drag on. It was especially disappointing that we only got 5 of our 6 runs. Hopefully they get things under control in the coming events because it was never this bad last year. The 45 minute drivers' meeting was also horrible and seemed to be what set the slow/delayed pace for the entire day; it could have easily been summarized in 10 minutes.

s1ngletracker 05-03-2009 10:27 AM

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geez, that sounds really annoying.

Kracka 05-03-2009 10:32 AM

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Yeah, being there from 7am until almost 6pm and only getting 5 runs was quite a let down.

asshanson 05-03-2009 08:58 PM

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^ That sucks. I thought I had to wait awhile. Here in Iowa today we did autocross on a road course, so didn't really have to dodge cones. Started at 10:30, finished by 5:30, and only got 5 runs in. There were around 58 cars I think, I placed 2nd in SM. There was a bmw that got a 41.8 on his best run, I managed a 42.3 on my second to last run. Third place was a 43.0, I think there were about 15 cars in SM there today. Not bad for my first event.

Kracka 05-03-2009 09:09 PM

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Nice job Andrew! DCTC is similar to a road course so that is a very fun venue.

cmspaz 05-03-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by asshanson (Post 289247)
^ That sucks. I thought I had to wait awhile. Here in Iowa today we did autocross on a road course, so didn't really have to dodge cones. Started at 10:30, finished by 5:30, and only got 5 runs in. There were around 58 cars I think, I placed 2nd in SM. There was a bmw that got a 41.8 on his best run, I managed a 42.3 on my second to last run. Third place was a 43.0, I think there were about 15 cars in SM there today. Not bad for my first event.

Yeah, you get a lot less for the time invested with IAR and DMVR. They're just that much more lax.

And congrats on getting 2nd! That's pretty damn good for a first time, especially in DMVR's competitive SM class. Oh, and don't worry about Chris. Every once in a while he pulls a win like that out of his ass, but don't expect it of him every event. The other guys are normally faster. But from the sounds of it, you're already set to be a points contender for this season. Too bad you're leaving 1/3 of the way in to come back up here, from that perspective.

asshanson 05-03-2009 10:27 PM

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Yea, plus I didn't make the first two events. Well, spectating I guess. I'm not in it for points, just to have fun. Lots of tire squealing today, almost lost it a few times, especially right after the finish line. The back corner was really fast, long straight stretch into sweeping corner, to another straight stretch. Maxed out 2nd at 8k rpms, sort of scary coming up on a 180* turn.

asshanson 05-04-2009 04:26 PM

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Does an ABS delete take me out of SM? If so that sucks balls, but oh well, it would be sort of cool to have an XP car that I DD. Hahaha. Where can I find a complete list of categories and their definitions, as well as acronyms. The STX cars were dominating yesterday, just want to find out what they can have for mods.


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