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Or, keep the F20C in the S2000!

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 

wow lets hope for sub 20k! I'll take a an r spec still ;)

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So I found an online service manual for this, and things don't look good for the block design. It will use 2 bolt mains, and I'm not totally sure yet, but it's possible it's an open deck design. So that means they probably just threw some different rods and pistons, and oil squirters in a non turbo block and called it good enough.

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Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 

Thats not good :(

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 

eh, it'll still be awesome. The thing is, the bolt patterns will probably be the same for the bellhousing. The motor mounts will most likely work from engine to engine, so a 4b11t swap (I bet) will be a pretty straight forward operation. Plus, it'll be an adventure to find the limits of the stock block!

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Ghey.

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 

aww, such pessimism. Be happy! a turbo 4 banger rwd coupe. When was the last time we had such a sweet car? (my guess is about 1982-1989, booyah!)

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The Evo X motor is open deck and the 4G63s are 2 bolt mains.

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Isn't the Evo X 4B11T a semi-closed designed basically meaning a reinforced open deck?

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I know the 4g63s are 2 bolt mains, but I thought the EvoX motor was semi-closed deck? I still plan on getting one if I like the way it drives, and I'm not too worried about the block cuz I don't plan on making a ton of power anyways.

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I think the point was simply that it's not looking like it's the EVO 4b11t.

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Yeah, that was my main point. I think this motor should still support 400whp easily. Appearantly these blocks are similar to the ones in the new Caliber SRT4, and there's people making 500whp on the stock internals.

If anyone else is interested in the service manual website, it's: http://www.hmaservice.com/ You have to create an account, but it's free to use.

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 

Looks like 2.5 bar MAP sensors from the manuals, which are good for 20-22psi. And high impendance injectors.

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Returnless fuel system.

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I think I'll keep my Talon.

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Gay...



Gayer...


This car is heading in the same direction as Spaz and the Rubber Fist!

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Ouch, that one sucks. I didn't think the rest was too bad. I thought they were making this mod friendly?

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Why is a returnless fuel system so bad? Does that mean trying to run larger injectors is much more difficult?

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^^ I was wondering that too. I would think that as long as the fuel rail sees the same pressure, it wouldn't really matter if the fuel is constantly flowing through. I could see it being difficult to run a larger fuel pump though. But at the same time, I wonder if it would really need a large pump since it wouldn't have to work as hard to maintain pressure.

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This car fail.t

Not really just making good excuses to not want one. lol

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It's not --unless you have a fetish for AFPRs. Personally, I find it a lot easier to leave the fuel pressure alone and adjust PWs with a "fuel computer" to achieve the desired fuel ratio; it just seems more... civilized.

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You will see that it is common on a lot of cars with returnless fuel systems stock to goto a return system when going for power. SRT-4, 350Z, RSX, newer Mustangs, etc. Upgraded fuel pumps like Walbros are also likely to burn out when put into a returnless setup, but Ford makes some OEM high flow pumps for their returnless FI cars like the GT500 and Ford GT that support a lot of power.

On a boosted car, you need to raise the fuel pressure 1psi for each psi of boost, just to keep the injectors working at their rated flow rate to fight the pressure in the intake. Some cars will try to adjust voltage to the pump to increase fuel pressure, some just run a static pressure which effectively make the injectors smaller and smaller with more boost and are a pain to tune.

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I see. I noticed that there is a fuel pressure regulator, so maybe this one will work like the ford ones you were describing? Also, I wouldn't think it would be too hard to turn it into a return system, would it? Probably just put a return style fuel rail on it, and FPR, and run a line back to the tank.

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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/au...ec.340.img.jpg

Edmunds is saying 23,750 for a 2.0 with r-spec package. To bad the R-spec deletes cruise control!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/au...ouperspec.html

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better info at autoblog.....

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/11/2...art-at-22-000/

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PRESS RELEASE

HYUNDAI ANNOUNCES 2010 GENESIS COUPE PRICING

CHICAGO, Feb. 11, 2009 – Hyundai Motor America announced pricing for the new Genesis Coupe, starting at $22,000 for a well-equipped 210-horsepower, 2.0-liter, turbocharged, four-cylinder engine 2.0T model and $25,000 for the 306-horsepower, 3.8-liter, V6 engine model. Genesis Coupe will begin arriving at Hyundai dealerships later in the month.

"Genesis sedan set a new benchmark for the premium sedan segment and we think Genesis Coupe will do the same in the sport coupe arena," said John Krafcik, Hyundai Motor America president and chief executive officer. "From our 30-mpg 2.0T with its low-pressure, intercooled, four-cylinder turbo, to the 3.8-liter Track model with 306 horsepower and Brembo® braking system, Genesis Coupe offers a wide range of powertrain and performance choices for driving enthusiasts of all stripes."


2010 GENESIS COUPE MANUFACTURER'S SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICING

2010 Hyundai Genesis
Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Six-Speed Manual $22,000

Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Five-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $23,250

Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Premium Six-SpeedManual $24,250

Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Premium Five-Speed SHIFTRONIC® $25,500

Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. Track Six-Speed Manual $26,750

Genesis Coupe 2.0T 2.0-liter turbo 4-cyl. R-Spec Six-Speed Manual $23,750

Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Six-Speed Manual $25,000

Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 ZF Six-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $26,500

Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Grand Touring Six-Speed Manual $27,500

Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Grand Touring ZF Six-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $29,000

Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Track Six-Speed Manual $29,500

Genesis Coupe 3.8 3.8-liter V6 Track ZF Six-Speed A/T SHIFTRONIC® $31,000

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GENESIS COUPE 2.0T: A MORE EFFICIENT TAKE ON THE REAR-WHEEL DRIVE SPORT COUPE
Standard equipment includes:

* 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged, intercooled 4-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering 210 hp, 223 lb.-ft. of torque (at just 2,000 rpm), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and a top speed of 137 mph
* M6VR1 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: A5SR1 5-speed electronic automatic transmission with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift SHIFTRONIC® controls)
* 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels with staggered Bridgestone Potenza RE92A tires (225/45VR18 front, 245/45VR18 rear)
* Electronic Stability Control with Traction control, ABS, Electronic Brake Force Distribution and Brake Assist
* 12.6-inch ventilated front rotors with 60mm single piston floating caliper
* 12.4-inch solid rear rotors with 43mm single piston floating caliper
* Sport-tuned MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and five-link rear independent suspension, 24mm front stabilizer bar, 19mm rear stabilizer bar
* Front strut brace
* Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
* Tire Pressure Monitoring System
* Front, side, side air curtain air bags
* Active front head restraints
* Driver's lumbar support
* Black-out front lower fascia
* Air conditioning
* Satin silver and chrome interior accents
* Remote keyless entry system with alarm
* Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
* Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
* AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD audio system with six speakers
* iPod/ USB Aux jack connectivity
* Steering wheel audio controls
* Cruise control
* Trip computer
* Projector beam headlamps with auto light control
* Bluetooth® hands-free connectivity with steering wheel controls


The 2.0T Premium model adds or substitutes:

* Power driver's seat
* 360-watt AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD-changer Infinity® premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
* Proximity Key with push-button start
* Auto-dimming mirror with HomeLink® and compass
* Power tilt and slide sunroof
* Navigation system (mid-model year availability, pricing TBA)


The factory-tuned 2.0T Track model builds from the 2.0T Premium, adding/substituting:

* 19-inch gunmetal-finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (225/40YR19 front, 245/40YR19 rear)
* Unique Brembo® braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
* Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, front strut brace
* Torsen-type limited-slip differential
* Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert
* Aluminum pedals
* Aero wipers
* Rear spoiler
* Xenon HID (High Intensity Discharge) headlights
* Fog lamps
* Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
* Navigation system (mid-model year availability, pricing TBA)
* Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track


Later in the model year, a tuner-focused performance model, R-Spec, will arrive at Hyundai dealerships. Genesis Coupe R-Spec is the ultimate upgradeable, affordable, turbocharged rear-wheel drive performance platform. R-Spec equipment includes:

* 2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering 210 hp, an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and a top speed of 137 mph
* 6-speed close-ratio manual transmission
* Electronic Stability Control with Traction Control, ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
* 19-inch gunmetal-finish alloy wheels with staggered-width high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (225/40YR19 front, 245/40YR19 rear)
* Brembo® braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
* Track-tuned suspension (higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, front strut brace)
* Torsen-type limited-slip differential
* Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
* Tire Pressure Monitoring System
* Front, side, side air curtain air bags
* Active front head restraints
* Driver's lumbar support
* Air conditioning
* Remote keyless entry with alarm
* Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
* Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
* AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD audio system with six speakers
* iPod/ USB/Aux jack connectivity
* Projector beam headlamps
* Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)

Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec

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GENESIS 3.8: 306 HORSEPOWER AND STANDARD LEATHER INTERIOR – A NEW BENCHMARK FOR PERFORMANCE AND REFINEMENT IN ITS CLASS

Standard equipment includes 2.0T equipment, and adds or substitutes:

* 3.8-liter DOHC V6 engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering 306 hp and a top speed of 149 mph
* M6VR2 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: ZF 6HP19 6-speed electronic automatic with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift SHIFTRONIC® controls)
* Black leather seating surfaces
* Fully automatic temperature control
* Premium door sill plates
* Chrome front fascia accents
* Fog lights


In addition to 3.8 equipment, the 3.8 Grand Touring adds or substitutes:

* Unique brown leather seat interior environment
* Power driver's seat
* Heated driver and passenger seat
* 360-watt AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD-changer Infinity® premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
* Proximity key with push-button start
* Xenon HID (High Intensity Discharge) headlamps
* Auto-dimming mirror with HomeLink® and compass
* Heated mirrors with outside turn signal indicators
* Backup warning system
* Power tilt and slide sunroof
* Navigation system (mid-model year availability, pricing TBA)


The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes the backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:

* Black leather seating surfaces
* 19-inch gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (225/40YR19 front, 245/40YR19 rear)
* Brembo® braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
* Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
* Torsen-type limited-slip differential
* Aluminum pedals
* Aero wipers
* Rear spoiler
* Black-out front lower fascia
* Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)


Genesis Coupe will be available in nine exterior colors:
Karussell White
Bathurst Black
Silverstone
Nordschleife Gray
Acqua Minerale Blue
Tsukuba Red
Mirabeau Blue
Lime Rock Green
Interlagos Yellow

Genesis Coupe features four different interior themes:
Black environment, premium black cloth seats (2.0T, 2.0T Premium, R-Spec)
Black environment, black leather-bolstered seats with high-friction red cloth insert (2.0T Track)
Black environment, black leather seats (3.8, 3.8 Track)
Black environment, saddle brown leather seats (3.8 Grand Touring)

HYUNDAI MOTOR AMERICA
Hyundai Motor America, headquartered in Fountain Valley, Calif., is a subsidiary of Hyundai Motor Co. of Korea. Hyundai vehicles are distributed throughout the United States by Hyundai Motor America and are sold and serviced through more than 780 dealerships nationwide.

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Nice work rosey! Sounds like the r-spec will be the track kit w/o the seats and a few other things.....very nice!

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 

I can't believe I beat kevin to all this info!

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 

R spec is where it's at.

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Haha I was working today, so all this is news to me. I wasn't expecting the pricing to be released until Friday. Those numbers look a little higher than I was hoping for, but I'm still shooting to get the 2.0 Track package.

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I got my full color brochure last Friday. 1st one out of the box :D

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 

I was pretty dead on wasnt I. :)

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 

Haha you weren't really dead on, but very close! Base is 22k

Re: 4b11t going into new RWD Hyundai coupe
 

So saw some people saying they expected their car as early as yesterday, and most saying next week. Anyone hear of anyone getting their car yet? Or any solid info on next week being true?

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wow, I really want an r-spec. Talk about the next tuner car to take off. How can't this? I 'm sure tons of companies are scrambling to start making stuff for this car!

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As far as I know, the shipments didn't even leave the ports until yesterday. So I wouldn't expect then to get here for another week or so. If even that soon. Jarod at Buschur ordered one, and it was supposed to be leaving for Ohio yesterday, so he probably won't see it till the end of next week, or early the following week. I suppose it's possible that some of the dealerships on the west coast could already have them on the showroom floor.

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http://genesisforums.org/index.php?pageid=techdocs1

ENGINE INFO

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I like it. CVVT for both cams. At first I saw "cooling jet" and thought it had jet valves, lol. Then I realized they meant oil squirters. 2 map sensors too.

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One thing I just noticed... It looks like the stock manifold won't flow very well, but it could possibly be a Mitsu flange?

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