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95talonracer 12-22-2008 08:16 AM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
I demand numbers! Also someone (Blageo) should bring me my manifold since I dont have a ride.

blageo23 12-22-2008 02:04 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
But you live in bum F nowhere :)

95talonracer 12-22-2008 03:28 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
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Originally Posted by blageo23 (Post 269703)
But you live in bum F nowhere :)

Come on man I totaled my truck and have no ride anywhere.

scheides 12-22-2008 04:23 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
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Originally Posted by 95talonracer (Post 269712)
97 Spyder AWD 6 bolt, Actually Driven!

LOL!

iroc_g 12-22-2008 07:52 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
Here we go!

4g63 SMIM Testing


Also, Beyond Redline's intake is supposed to arrive tomarrow. Ill try to get that up asap!

Let me know what you guys thing of the page, as well as the data.

95tsi 12-22-2008 09:25 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
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Originally Posted by iroc_g (Post 269784)
Here we go!
Also, Beyond Redline's intake is supposed to arrive tomarrow. Ill try to get that up asap!
Let me know what you guys thing of the page, as well as the data.


Looks nice!!!! Any chance your going to flow a 1g/2g intake for a base reference?

95talonracer 12-22-2008 09:25 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
WOW! I am extremely suprised with the results. Thanks a bunch for doing this and my Venom isnt that bad for the $200 i got it for after all!! :)

iroc_g 12-22-2008 09:34 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
Iceminion is going to bring me a cyclone when he picks his magnus. I'm going to try to get my 1g off tonight and do that as well.

Kracka 12-22-2008 09:37 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
Nice work to LSE (John?)!

Halon 12-22-2008 09:40 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
Thanks for the results. Not my area of expertise, so I'll wait to here what others say. But doesn't look like my (new) JMF did all that bad in compared to most of the competition thus far. At least in this test that is. I'm sure there's plenty more to an IM's performance other then what was tested here.

95talonracer 12-22-2008 09:49 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
Wow looks like Magnus FTL. So what would 11-18% difference on # 1 do to our cars on a moded motor?

asshanson 12-22-2008 10:00 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
Good info, now we need to have some interpretation on all that data. LSE's looked really good on paper, but how would the larger volume affect performance on different setups? Things like that I don't know.

EDIT: Also how do I tell if I have the new or old JMF intake? The engraved logo I have looks like brandon's, does that make it the new version?

95tsi 12-22-2008 10:09 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
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Originally Posted by 95talonracer (Post 269798)
Wow looks like Magnus FTL. So what would 11-18% difference on # 1 do to our cars on a moded motor?

I'm assuming, your losing power on #1. Figure just that cylinder is running nearly 20% richer than the rest...

sleepydsm 12-22-2008 10:16 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
Nice page! Looks like John might have to start making some of those manifolds?

4g63tcrazy 12-22-2008 10:44 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
So which one did the best? I feel like I'm getting stupider when I try to read the test results..

95talonracer 12-22-2008 10:47 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
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Originally Posted by 95tsi (Post 269802)
I'm assuming, your losing power on #1. Figure just that cylinder is running nearly 20% richer than the rest...

That or a few cylinders are running lean if people tune on the edge which could be bad.

95tsi 12-22-2008 10:47 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4g63tcrazy (Post 269812)
So which one did the best? I feel like I'm getting stupider when I try to read the test results..

Looks to me like the LSE prototype. Good flow numbers and very consistant. Others have good numbers but, they lack consistency.

95tsi 12-22-2008 10:51 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
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Originally Posted by 95talonracer (Post 269813)
That or a few cylinders are running lean if people tune on the edge which could be bad.

I would think you would have a much better chance or running rich on that cyl. With 75% comming from the other 3 cyl chances are you would likely be pulling more of a the tune off them. My guess....???

iroc_g 12-22-2008 10:57 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
As you guys are noticing, what I really did notice wasn't the differences in peak numbers, but consistency of the manifold. Hell, these all are pretty close max flow. To get the engine running optimumly with a "faulty" manifold, you would have to have the ability to tune fuel delivery per cylinder.

Beyond that, an engine is going to run best, and behave the best if all 4 cylinders are making the same amount of power. If you have one runner that has 10% less air, you wold have reduce the fuel accordingly. But in doing this, that cylinder will make less power because it is consuming less air/fuel mixture.

sleepydsm 12-22-2008 11:10 PM

Re: SMIM Showdown! Lets figure this out once and for all!
 
When will we see a baseline?


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