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turbotalon1g 06-12-2012 10:04 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
But you guys are internet racers, you have to at least have a chance on paper to be happy.

Murlo26 06-12-2012 10:27 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 408505)
But you guys are internet racers, you have to at least have a chance on paper to be happy.

I drive my car more than you do :)

So boom.

Murlo26 06-13-2012 12:16 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Silly VD numbers...but 500whp on 93 at 24psi...yea...sweet...
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b252/Murlo26/boom.jpg

Kracka 06-13-2012 07:51 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 408510)
I drive my car more than you do :)

So boom.

HAHAHA ...and owned!

turbotalon1g 06-13-2012 08:51 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 408510)
I drive my car more than you do :)

So boom.

Just this year you have so don't get too excited. :lol:

But for you that just means you are closer to:




http://perrysburgblog.com/wp-content.../03/Kaboom.jpg

93gtpeater 06-13-2012 09:00 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Haha. Hope it makes it to pg this year.

Murlo26 06-14-2012 12:20 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
So, battling fuel pressure problems right now. My AEM is adjusted for max fuel pressure and it won't go above 42ish at idle.

So as I believe Shane suspected, the car appears to be bleeding fuel back through the second pump. Doing some testing now, but might be getting a check valve for the second pump soon.

Need to bump fuel pressure so we can reduce load as I was hitting 330load and boost cut (319 load) on pump gas at like 24psi.

So we are making it so the load is hopefully 270ish around there by changing around a lot of stuff. (injector scaling, MAF/MAp tables etc)

Not going to lie, I doubt I am going to PG. Especially since work is really crazy. I am kinda bummed but frankly I don't want to go until the car is working fully. I will head out to RF or BIR at a test and tune day when its done if I don't make it.

Still going to try and make it but not looking good now.

bramagedained 06-14-2012 07:00 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
You have 8 days left, that's plenty of time.

simulatedwood 06-14-2012 07:48 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 408576)
Not going to lie, I doubt I am going to PG. Especially since work is really crazy. I am kinda bummed but frankly I don't want to go until the car is working fully. I will head out to RF or BIR at a test and tune day when its done if I don't make it.

Still going to try and make it but not looking good now.

I am going to make you a liar! Your coming to PG, that thing is going down the track if we have to push it!

Plus..Don't think of the PG as just a event, think of it as a 3-day Mitsustyle cruise, with lots of nightly festivities, and driving with a hangover. 2 things we are good at. ;)

Tachyon 06-14-2012 08:54 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simulatedwood (Post 408582)
I am going to make you a liar! Your coming to PG, that thing is going down the track if we have to push it!

Plus..Don't think of the PG as just a event, think of it as a 3-day Mitsustyle cruise, with lots of nightly festivities, and driving with a hangover. 2 things we are good at. ;)

I'll help with the pushing!

Seriously, you need to just force yourself to have realistic goals, then focus on having fun, even if it's not at 10/10ths level.

Heck, I only managed to get about 60% of the things I wanted to do done on my heap before the PG, but that's not going to stop me from enjoying what a brought to the fullest!

Having slightly reduced fun > no fun.

Kracka 06-14-2012 09:55 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Don't be like Chkmgnt...constant work in progress, then once it's finally done get fed-up and sell it. That's what happens when you don't stop and actually allow yourself to enjoy the car while it's in process.

cmspaz 06-14-2012 10:08 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simulatedwood (Post 408582)
Plus..Don't think of the PG as just a event, think of it as a 3-day Mitsustyle cruise, with lots of nightly festivities, and driving with a hangover. 2 things we are good at. ;)

LOL! It's so true.

Murlo26 06-14-2012 02:07 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
It might be just as easy as getting a check valve for the 2nd pump...but I need to pull the pump out sometime to look at it to get an appropriate one.

I am trying to make it, I have been working on it tons lately, like every night for weeks. But I am starting to run out of steam a bit and work is getting really bad. But we shall see, I could always just run pump gas there instead of e85 just to make it there.

Tachyon 06-14-2012 02:12 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 408609)
I could always just run pump gas there instead of e85 just to make it there.

Do it!

Working on cars is no fun when you're allready stressed and rundown... that's how mistakes get made.

Shane@DBPerformance 06-14-2012 03:06 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Just run it at lower power, like 350-400, and run the road course instead.

Murlo26 06-14-2012 03:13 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance (Post 408613)
Just run it at lower power, like 350-400, and run the road course instead.


Hmmm, interesting...I wouldn't mind doing that. But I still need to get my fuel pressure stuff sorted, then its just tuning.

The car/tune is all jacked up as it was looking for a higher base pressure so I need to do that first.

t-revzr 06-14-2012 03:22 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
It's so crazy how much time and money you've put into this car and it still has issues..

asshanson 06-14-2012 03:40 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
What sort of check valve are you going to use? I have a -6 in/out one way fuel valve that I used on the V when I was having issues with the siphon letting fuel back into the tank.

Looks something like this but a little bigger:
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...UM-220194B.jpg

Murlo26 06-14-2012 03:42 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asshanson (Post 408620)
What sort of check valve are you going to use? I have a -6 in/out one way fuel valve that I used on the V when I was having issues with the siphon letting fuel back into the tank.

Looks something like this but a little bigger:
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...UM-220194B.jpg

Not sure yet, I need to pull the backseat and do some measuring. The two pumps meet at a Y outside the tank, so I am thinking of replacing part of the hose with a check valve.

The size I haven't figured out yet.

asshanson 06-14-2012 04:18 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Oh nice, if you have enough room outside the tank that would be a lot easier than trying to fit the check valve inside the tank.

Is the Y fitting AN or barbed?

Murlo26 06-14-2012 04:36 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Here just went and took a picture :)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...6/47d67cde.jpg

From looking at this I assume these are barbed.

asshanson 06-14-2012 04:51 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Yea, and that's not much room to work with. Good luck with the fuel issues, I thought most pumps had check valves built into them?

Murlo26 06-14-2012 04:55 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asshanson (Post 408628)
Yea, and that's not much room to work with. Good luck with the fuel issues, I thought most pumps had check valves built into them?

Nah in boost I don't have an issue, my car has run over 80psi no problem at full boost.

Its at idle where the issue is, low load in general, before the 2nd pump kicks on. When the second pump runs, there isn't an issue.

I know, its not much room at all, not sure what to do now. I am not sure how big the check valves are, so I dunno.

I think the wally 255's do have a check valve built in. But the pump I am using from blaqops is like a GT500 pump or something strange.

Murlo26 06-15-2012 07:40 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Bought this...
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performan...50011/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/50...555-150011.jpg

And two of these...
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performan...00845/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/50...555-100845.jpg

They will be here in the morning. Can't afford to lose two days if I want to make PG, saturday delivery ouch! But MUST FIX EVO!

Normally I do all black/boring stuff as I like stock appearing shit, but they were out of stock until july, so I went balla blue :)

Tachyon 06-15-2012 08:49 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Nice! Overnight parts, from Japan*



































*'merica!

Murlo26 06-18-2012 01:47 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
I am officially throwing in the towel.... (edit: for PG only, not the evo in full haha)

I had to do some work (as in work, not car work lol) over the weekend and that coupled with fathers day = no time for car work.

Also I was going to take friday off and next monday to prepare for proving grounds and recover :) That got axed as work is INSANE right now. So my tune is just not ready at all and neither is the car mechanically and this week just isn't going to give me a ton of time to finish it off.

So I am not about to try and rush the car and go to PG to beat the piss out of it with a tune that isn't really ready, just ain't happening. As much as I would love to go, I want my first track experience to be fun and not filled with agony and a tow home.

Good luck everyone else though :) I will be heading to slippery falls in the coming weeks though.

turbotalon1g 06-18-2012 02:00 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Good decision, but what do you need to do?

I thought it was good to go on pump gas?

Murlo26 06-18-2012 02:21 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 408798)
Good decision, but what do you need to do?

I thought it was good to go on pump gas?

No, we had to make tuning changes to lower load as I was hitting 330 load at 24psi on pump gas. So we had to do injector and MAF rescaling then it still was hitting too high of load so we were going to do some more rescaling and also raise base idle pressure to add fuel and in turn reduce load further.

Our goal was to have load be around 275 on pump gas where I was so we have room on it for when I do the E85 tune.

Why do we need to lower load you might ask, well there is a hard coded load cap at 360 in the ECU, so you cannot go higher, so we are trying to make sure we don't hit that.

So when we tried raising base pressure is when we found an issue with something (not sure yet) and realized pressure wasn't increasing enough. So until I figure out the fuel pressure problem and get a full retune on pump I wouldn't be ready.

In theory I could revert to my old setup that I had last week and refine that tune a bit, but I don't want to waste my tuners time or my money for a tune that is just temporary. I'd rather fix everything and get it running properly.

Kracka 06-18-2012 02:33 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
What a hassle :(

Murlo26 06-18-2012 02:40 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 408804)
What a hassle :(

Yes, true, but self induced...I didn't need to go this far with the car :)

I have learned that running this power on a 4 cylinder takes a lot of extra care/time to get right...so I am trying to take my time.

I still feel like progress is being made...I'll get it soon I think.

C3L1CA 06-18-2012 02:49 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
You going to slippery rock on a sport compact day?

I'm probably going to take my bike out to one before too long.


Good call on not beating on the car with no good tune on it!

Murlo26 06-18-2012 02:51 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 408806)
You going to slippery rock on a sport compact day?

I'm probably going to take my bike out to one before too long.


Good call on not beating on the car with no good tune on it!

Either a sport compact day or test and tune day, whichever is first and works with the schedule. I'd prefer a test and tune day as from what I have heard you can get more runs in and also those have had better track prep's (maybe, lol).

But I am down for whichever.

Honestly my first few runs are going to be rolling the car off the line...for pure trap speeds. then I will take a shot at launching the car. I want to try and get a good trap speed before I break anything ;)

Tachyon 06-18-2012 03:07 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
So are you still coming to the PG regardless?

Murlo26 06-18-2012 03:24 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tachyon (Post 408808)
So are you still coming to the PG regardless?

No sadly, I have like real work I need to knock out, which is why I can't take vacation too.

Any free time I have will be used to work on the car and/or relax.

I need to really catch up on some projects otherwise I won't be able to take the time off I wanted to around 4th of July either.

Tachyon 06-18-2012 03:32 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Shitty :(

Murlo26 06-18-2012 03:35 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tachyon (Post 408813)
Shitty :(

Indeed, no choice though really, work is really heating up.

A ton of our engineers are dedicated to a huge job we have for wood burning power plants and I am stuck being the catch all as I am still in the office.

I am hoping it gets better soon.

turbotalon1g 06-18-2012 03:52 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Don't worry man, plenty of time to hit the tracks this year. Plus racing an untuned car is retarded. Take your time and as long as you are making some progress its all good.
Although I was looking forward to seeing this in action, I can wait.

Murlo26 06-18-2012 03:55 PM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
^Got a GoPro Hero2HD now, so I will have plenty of film of when I finally go :)

turbotalon1g 06-19-2012 09:18 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 408820)
^Got a GoPro Hero2HD now, so I will have plenty of film of when I finally go :)

Nice, I was looking up track days and 7/13 & 7/14 seems to be the next open days. Well that I can go I think the 7/1 weekend has some too.

Murlo26 06-19-2012 09:34 AM

Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 408845)
Nice, I was looking up track days and 7/13 & 7/14 seems to be the next open days. Well that I can go I think the 7/1 weekend has some too.

7/13 and 7/14 seem like a good weekend to shoot for, gives enough time to make sure its running tip top. And gives me time to get a helmet...I want to go try some on.


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