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scheides 11-10-2011 11:03 PM

Re: beaterX project thread
 
I'm trying not to think about it! :P

I ordered with a few other things, I'll be updating again in a few days...

rose0529 11-11-2011 10:14 AM

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Looks like a nice piece!

Murlo26 11-11-2011 10:29 AM

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I am so tempted to get this as well, but for that price there are so many other things I need first. It really does look good.

Ps. Remind me in the next few weeks to pull off my intake shield for you Scheides, assuming you still want to test with it.

scheides 11-11-2011 12:52 PM

Re: beaterX project thread
 
I do I do! Thank you! I figured I'd bug ya once the snow was flyin.

scheides 11-13-2011 10:25 PM

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So when I ordered the undertray I also decided to finally finish off the power setup on the car--this is the mil.spec 64mm throttle body. Everything stock has been replaced or ported now!

Stock TB is 60mm, this one measures just a hair under 64mm on my calipers on the IM side:
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/milspecTB.sized.jpg

Only problem is, the inlet on my MAP Rev3 manifold was 61.5mm
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evox-...0229.sized.jpg

After talking to a few people at MAP it seems as though you need to specify what size inlet you'd like when ordering...I picked up this manifold second hand so I'm stuck with what it had on it. Sure it's not *that* far off but heck, if you're going to do something, do it right eh? Off came the IM again, and out came the porting bits...
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/IMG_0274.sized.jpg

After a quick boost leak test and she was back on the road. Idle is the same. Low-speed driveability is the same. Light boost and part throttle the car seems a little more snappy, which is really just what I wanted! WOT...um, WOW. The car is now another notch towards retarded...or redonk...or whatever. All I know is the difference is insane.

How can this much difference be had with just a TB swap? I am seriously in awe, this must have unlocked some of the potential of the fancy-dancy Rev3 IM and let the rest of the engine flow more. I was hoping to see some good basic improvement but yea....this mod is WAY worth it and I'm WAY happy.

Car is definitely going to need more fuel pump here soon.

Also, something not so happy I discovered with the IM off....gunk all over the backside of the intake valves:
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/IMG_0276.sized.jpg

Time for some MCCC, prolly next oil change.

v8klla 11-14-2011 11:22 AM

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Are you able to post a VDR comparison before and after?

goodhart 11-14-2011 05:55 PM

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^LOL I asked the same on EvoMN

scheides 11-19-2011 07:20 PM

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el-oh-el-- I ordered some vinyl baseboard molding from mcmaster.com for $3, and while the car was in the air today to swap on the stock rims/snow tires I made a template with some cardboard and slapped this thing in to fill the hole where the front lip is broken. A new lip is $250 so this will get me by till I spring for one :P

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/IMG_0283.sized.jpg

http://www.mcmaster.com/#vinyl-trim/=f0aike
#1778A14

goodhart 11-19-2011 07:30 PM

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Haha a true dsm'er!

Murlo26 12-06-2011 04:31 PM

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Have you ever logged mivec at idle? Target vs. Actual? I got a call from John from Akuma motorsports today about his mivec going all the way to -35 at idle and was curious if you were seeing this at all. I don't think I am but not sure really and I can't test it on my car.

scheides 12-06-2011 08:42 PM

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I have not logged that, what is the reason for bothering with this? Smoother idle or more lop lop lop lop?

cmspaz 12-07-2011 01:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 396572)
more lop lop lop lop

Definitely a reason to fiddle with it.

Murlo26 12-07-2011 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 396572)
I have not logged that, what is the reason for bothering with this? Smoother idle or more lop lop lop lop?

In a way smoother yes. I guess some people have had oil pressure issues at idle, or what they think are oil pressure issues. Apparently below like 1200rpms the car goes all the way negative on the exhaust cam and all hell breaks loose. Just curious if you have had any issues.

scheides 12-07-2011 12:36 PM

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Heh, I'll look. My idle is rock solid, probably around 700 or 800 rpm. I've been having some surge issues with the new TB but it's only when the car is moving, it's weird.

Murlo26 12-07-2011 01:32 PM

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Strange about the surge...hmmm. Leak maybe?

Yea I guess if you get a chance just let me know, just curious.

Sparky2211 12-07-2011 03:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 396563)
Have you ever logged mivec at idle? Target vs. Actual? I got a call from John from Akuma motorsports today about his mivec going all the way to -35 at idle and was curious if you were seeing this at all. I don't think I am but not sure really and I can't test it on my car.

I should log mine for a while. At idle it is good when cold, but once the car is warmed up, it gets really choppy and AFR's jump to 15-16+. Eventually it will even itself out and it will idle smooth until it dips down low again. Unfortuantely, I don't know a ton about the tuning, reading of the tables.

Murlo26 12-08-2011 05:45 PM

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Here is what I was talking about Scheides:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-e...mivec-fix.html

Honestly I don't think my car has these problems but I don't know for sure.

scheides 12-19-2011 10:26 PM

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xmas update.

Installed some weatherTech floor mats this weekend:
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/floormats.sized.jpg

These things are really nice! They fit like a glove and are already nice and dirty from use :)


Speaking of dirty, I found this on my intake ports/valves when I had the IM off recently:
http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/IMG_0276.sized.jpg

After a bunch of research, I've taken the advice of aaron @ ER and Shane @ DB and just switched back to pump gas for a few tanks. I added a bottle of chevron fuel injector cleaner to the first tank, hopefully this cleans things up! Switching back to pump was dead easy on my setup: turn down MBC 3 full turns while filling the car up with BP93, fire it up on the e70 lingering in the lines and then hold down cruise control button after about 20 seconds. Car runs mid 11's AFRs and boost just touches 24psi in 2nd and 3rd, 25.5 in 4th. WGDC is set to zero across teh board so this is pure mbc, taper and all. Not ideal but the car still rips pretty good!

The car had a handful of CELs that would come and go but the last month the CEL has been on solid. po300 (random misfire), po365 (exhaust CAS), and p3000 error. po300 and p3000 are now gone after 1 tank, and I discovered that my exhaust CAS plug was loose--it had slightly melted from the tubular manifold before I put a heat shield and heat wrap tape (thanks again lomker! RIP!) over it. The pin was also bent really bad from when I was swapping manifolds on the dyno back in feb so idk, maybe the sensor is bad, maybe it just needs more TLC. I've seen people reporting po365s as a result of a misfire so I'll fiddle with the plug some more and probably try some new plugs after the holidays and see if that helps at all.

goodhart 12-19-2011 11:07 PM

Re: beaterX project thread
 
is there any patches to disable the p0300 and others like there is for the 8/9? My car would get that all the time before I disabled it, even with a good tune and no noticeable misfire.

scheides 12-19-2011 11:24 PM

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I'm not sure, it seems to have gone away though...and considering the other CEL, I might want to know when it's actually doing this...I had zero CELs all summer so this is def an indication of some issues. Nothing major though.


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